.30-06 recipies?

[heypete]

Greetings all,

I have a Remington 700 BDL in .30-06 and recently started loading for it.

Key components are as follows:
* CCI 200 Large Rifle Primers
* IMR 4064 powder
* Sierra GameKing 150gr and Winchester 147gr FMJ, both boat-tailed.

Mixed brass including Remington, Winchester (nickel-plated, FWIW), PMP, and Lake City '69.

The Lee book has loads starting at 47.5gr of IMR 4064 to (I think, I'm at work now) 51.5 or so grains.

I mixed up a few batches, each consisting of at least six rounds, each batch having a precisely-weighted charge for each case. I have yet to take this to the range, but will try to go tonight.

Given that, does anyone know of any good recipies?

 

[The Bushmaster]

Yes in deedee....
Winchester brass
WLR primers
59 grains of H4831SC
Sierra 165 grain HPBT
2730 average fps. 8.3 extreme spread. 3.4 standard deviation. 2.7 average deviation. From a Browning 22 inch .30-06.

 

[Lennyjoe]

Posted by me on March 12th;



Just got back from shooting the Gameking thru a chronograph.

First load was;
165gr Sierra Gameking
56.5gr IMR 4350
Winchester brass (tumbled and trimmed)
WLR primer
C.O.L. 3.250
2937 fps
3161 fpe

Second load was;
165gr Sierra Gameking
57.5gr IMR 4350
Winchester brass (tumbled and trimmed)
WLR primer
C.O.L. 3.250
2975 fps
3243 fpe

Third load was;
165gr Sierra Gameking
58.0gr IMR 4350
Winchester brass (tumbled and trimmed)
WLR primer
C.O.L. 3.250
3005 fps
3309 fpe

All were 5 shot groups.

Shooting platform was a Savage 110 left hand bolt rifle without the Accu-trigger (mine is and older model) and a Burris 3.9x40 scope.

Temp was 80 degrees and sunny with about a 15 knot head wind. Shot group ranged from 1.02" for the first load, .65" for the second load and .95" for the third load.

The 57.5gr load was by far the most accurate load of the three. I forgot the camera today for pics but overall I am impressed with the second load.

 

[Steve in PA]

First, if your really serious about accuracy, stick with one brand of brass.

Now, I use a few different brands of brass for my M1 Garand, mostly Remington with a little Winchester, Federal and some LC thrown in.

For serious accuracy loads in my M1, I'll load all one brand.

For my hunting rifle, all my loads are with Remington brass, 165gr Hornady BTSP, CCI primers and 57-58gr of H-414. Will shoot less than 1" groups (usually around 3/4") at 100yds.

 

[Art Eatman]

My pet '06 doesn't seem to care if Rem and Win brass are mixed. Any old bullet seems to work, although I didn't do well with the Winchester FailSafes. Same for brand of primer, whether Rem or Win.

The Sierra 150-grain SPBT will blowup at close range on a mule deer's neck if driven much above 2,800 ft/sec muzzle velocity, I discovered. The Sierra folks said that the flat-base bullet has a bit thicker jacket. The 180-grain SPBT also has a thicker jacket; good elk bullet.

I've used 4064 since 1950; 3031 for 110-grain Hornady bullets.

2400 makes a good plinker load; 20 grains behind any weight of bullet you have. The 169-grain lead gas-checks are good.

An 00 Buck ahead of five grains of Bullseye makes a good squirrel load.

Art

 

[cidirkona]

My 30-06 recipe goes a little like this:

One part "Thirty" and one part "aught six." And then I check to see that the local surplus shop is still way too expensive to bring the m1 out of the safe! DOH!

:banghead:

I wish reloading were as easy as one part thirty and one part aught six... and I had all the crap to do it.

-Colin

 

[heypete]

First, if your really serious about accuracy, stick with one brand of brass.

Of course. I have 100 pieces of Remington brass coming today, as well as a full-length chamber gauge (those steel thingies one puts the case/cartridge into to verify that it's sized and trimmed to the proper size) and some other assorted goodies.

Being that I only have one manual now (with the exception of the Hodgdon manual that came with the Lee kit and the free IMR manual they sent me), I'm looking for good combinations of "working" loads.

I'll have to experiment around a bit -- today will probably involve lots of trimming and measuring cases. Whee.

 

[Sharps Shooter]

In a 30-06 I like the Hornady 165 grain SPBT over a stout charge of IMR 4350. All of my brass is Remington and I use CCI Magnum LR primers. I'm getting a little over 2800 fps muzzle velocity with that load and it keeps 3 bullets in an inch at 100 yards. IMR 4064 should work well too. The only problem I've noted is the Hornady 165 grain SPBT WILL shed its jacket and fragment if I hit a large bone in a mule deer at fairly close range while velocity is still high. Then again, it should be pointed out, if I hadn't had a dead mule deer to examine, I would have never known the bullet shed its jacket and fragmented.

 

[Lennyjoe]

Be sure to full size the brass straight out of the bag.

Then trim and lightly chamfer the brass.

 

[GooseGestapo]

LennyJoe..........

How long is your '06 barrel ???

I've not ever seen those velocities from an '06 and 165gr bullets with 4350!!

With 56.5gr I see 2,675-2,700fps from 22"bbls
2,750-2,775fps from 24" bbls.

With 58.5gr I see 2,850fps from those rifles that can stand it. Most will show pressure signs above 57.5gr, and my best accuracy has always been at 56.5gr. I can use 58.5gr of H-4350, however.

Either your brass is really thick running the pressures high, or your chrono is a lot more optimistic than mine.

I usually only see over 3,000fps from an '06 with RL-15 and 150gr bullets !!!

 

[The Bushmaster]

I was wondering where you got your data also. Those are a bit fast even for a 26 inch barrel. You wouldn't be using one of those old long tom squirrel guns would you, Lennyjoe??

 

[Lennyjoe]

22" Savage 110 model.

I thought they were a bit up there too since the manual was showing a lower speed.

The temp was up there a bit but other than that, I wrote down every shot that the Chronograph displayed. Distance from the rifle barrel was 8ft.

I am going to reload some more and see whats up.

 

[The Bushmaster]

Lennyjoe. You sure you aren't loading 150 grain bullets? They'll load to 2900 to 3000 fps. (Nice rifle by the way)

 

[Lennyjoe]

165gr Sierra BTHP.

 

[Lennyjoe]

I shot rounds thru the -06 again today with 57.5gr of IMR 4350, WLR primers and Remington/Winchester brass at 3.200 C.O.L. and 75 degrees temp.

10 shot average from the Remington brass was 2930fps and Winchester 5 shot group was 2910fps.

I noticed on the IMR website that 60.0gr of powder was max for the Sierra 165 SPBT bullet. Nothing listed for the HPBT bullet though. I dont know if I want to go that high or not. 2900fps is plenty enough for deer.

Also noticed that the C.O.L. is listed at 3.300 for the SPBT bullet. I seat mine at 3.200. Thats .010 off of my lands. Seems to group the best.

From the IMR website;

165 GR. SIE SPBT
IMR 4350 .308" 3.300" 56.0 2746 48,100 PSI 60.0C 2934 57,600 PSI