.30-30win Load

[giggitygiggity]

I am looking to load .30-30Win with H335, Wolf LR primers, and Hornady 160gr FTX bullets. Has anyone loaded .30-30Win with these components? Any suggestions. What weight of H335 charge works best? Thanks.

 

[blarby]

This is not a powder recommended even by the manufacturer of the powder for the cartridge you desire to utilize it for.

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

Click on "cartridge loads"

Build from there !

Assuming you wanted to experiment, I believe you would find h335 far too fast for this application. For .30-30 generally a long slow "push" is preferred to a rocket fast "snap" in the powder department.

Save that H335 for its intended purpose- .223 55 gr Pills. You'll be much happier with your results there.

My two cents, anyways.

 

[sniper55]

I load the 30-30 win.with IMR 3031 or IMR 4064 WLR primers, and the Hornady 160 FTX. It works for me.

 

[tightgroup tiger]

Imr 3031 has served me for the last 40yrs of hunting. WLR primers and 150gr anything. It didn't seem to matter what brand of bullet. I've tried most all of them.

 

[popper]

I use H335 and the FTX's with no problem for 30-30, 308 ME, 308 AR. Use the Hornady load data to start. POI for my load is about 1" below Rem 150 core-lok with good grouping at 100 yds. I don't use a max load.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Is there a specific reason why you want to use H335? If not why not use the powder Hornady uses in their factory Leverevolution ammo.

 

[redneck2]

This is not a powder recommended even by the manufacturer of the powder for the cartridge you desire to utilize it for

Uhhh..might want to look again..

this is the reason you need to double check info from the experts on the internet. This is for a 170, so it would be OK for a 160, but check for yourself

copied directly from Hodgden website

Hodgdon Powder Company
Cartridge Load Recipe Report - 5/31/2011
data.hodgdon.com
30-30 Winchester
Load Type: Rifle Powder: H335
BW: 170
Cartridge Information
Case: Winchester Barrel Length: 24"
Twist: 1:12" Trim Length: 2.030"
Primer: WINCHESTER LR

30-30 Winchester
Cartridge Load Data Starting Loads
Maximum Loads
Bullet Weight (Gr.) Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
170 GR. SIE FP H335 .308" 2.550" 27.5 1934 29,000 CUP 30.5 2086 36,300 CUP

Assuming you wanted to experiment, I believe you would find h335 far too fast for this application. For .30-30 generally a long slow "push" is preferred to a rocket fast "snap" in the powder department.

Save that H335 for its intended purpose- .223 55 gr Pills. You'll be much happier with your results there.

.223's use about the same powders as bigger bores that have relatively small case capacity for the bullet diameter. I use Varget for my .45-70 and my .30-30. Pistol powder for my .458 SOCOM (H-110). Look up the term "expansion ratio".

 

[blarby]

Also copied directly from hodgdons for 160 gr .30-30

160 GR. CAST LFN Hodgdon H4895 .308" 2.485" 17.5 1351 15,200 CUP 21.0 1562 23,100 CUP
160 GR. CAST LFN Hodgdon H4198 .308" 2.485" 15.0 1420 15,000 CUP 17.0 1616 20,600 CUP
160 GR. CAST LFN IMR Trail Boss .308" 2.485" 6.5 997 20,500 CUP 9.0 1195 29,100 CUP
160 GR. HDY FTX Hodgdon LVR .308" 2.535" 32.0 2221 31,200 CUP 35.5C 2389 37,500 CUP
160 GR. HDY FTX IMR IMR 8208 XBR .308" 2.535" 27.0 2045 33,900 CUP 30.0 2207 37,000 CUP

Gotta be careful with those aging generals of the internet as well.... Seems they love to throw that weight around some bit.

Hodgdons DOESN'T OFFER a loading of 160 grains with h335.

Quote:
This is not a powder recommended even by the manufacturer of the powder for the cartridge you desire to utilize it for

So yes, that statement is true and correct.

Hmm.... Lets look at 170....

170 GR. SIE FP Winchester 760 .308" 2.550" 33.6 1975 30,000 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP Hodgdon LVR .308" 2.550" 33.0 2145 28,900 CUP 36.3C 2332 35,400 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP Hodgdon Varget .308" 2.550" 29.5 1976 30,200 CUP 33.0 2168 36,500 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP IMR IMR 4320 .308" 2.550" 30.0 1976 35,400 CUP 32.5 2068 36,300 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP IMR IMR 4064 .308" 2.550" 29.8 1991 30,700 CUP 31.7 2090 35,300 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP Winchester 748 .308" 2.550" 32.0 2145 36,000 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP Hodgdon BL-C(2) .308" 2.550" 32.5 2048 27,900 CUP 36.0 2227 34,700 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP IMR IMR 4895 .308" 2.550" 29.8 1938 30,500 CUP 31.7 2068 35,300 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP Hodgdon H335 .308" 2.550" 27.5 1934 29,000 CUP 30.5 2086 36,300 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP Hodgdon H4895 .308" 2.550" 27.5 1947 28,200 CUP 30.5 2138 35,200 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP IMR IMR 8208 XBR .308" 2.550" 27.8 2052 36,400 CUP 30.9 2181 37,500 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP IMR IMR 3031 .308" 2.550" 27.5 1959 27,500 CUP 29.2 2085 35,800 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP Hodgdon Benchmark .308" 2.550" 25.3 1894 32,200 CUP 27.0 2001 36,100 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP IMR IMR 4198 .308" 2.550" 21.0 1800 27,400 CUP 22.3 1896 32,100 CUP
170 GR. SIE FP Hodgdon H4198 .308" 2.550" 20.5 1764 27,300 CUP 22.5 1918 32,600 CUP

Edit : bad eyes : There is one there.....

Even looked twice, for what its worth.

Look up the term "lout"... It sits better for the accusatory posts.

He asked for 160, not 170.

 

[Walkalong]

Hodgdon lists H335 for every bullet weight on their site except for the 160 GR. HDY FTX. It does better velocity wise with bullets under 170 Gr.

For the 160 FTX you would have to work up your own data using H335. No big deal for an experienced handloader, but not something for the novice.

You can use one of the powders Hodgdon lists, or maybe the Hornady manual or web site has some data with other powders.

 

[Leaky Waders]

I thought it was acceptable to use a smaller grain bullet with the recipe for a heavier grained bullet but not vice verse...

 

[Walkalong]

You can as long as the construction is similar.

 

[FROGO207]

Anyway----I have not used that particular combo the OP asked about in my 30-30 loads. I have however had great success using 3031 with multiple weight bullets and recommend it highly for the 30-30.

 

[popper]

Go to Hornady FTX load site and choose your powder. Check for bullet weight (type), velocity you want and pressure you get. H335 is a reasonable choice, good fps and low pressure. LVR is probably better, but limited in caliber use.

 

[rcmodel]

30-30 FTX data, including H-335 data from Hornady.
http://www.hornady.com/assets/files/ftx_load_data/30-30_win_ftx.pdf

rc

 

[rodregier]

+1 H335 in .30-30.

In broad strokes (consult a reloading table!) you'll find powder that is suitable for .30-30 is also suitable for .223 REM and .308 Win., among others.

 

[redneck2]

Hodgdon lists H335 for every bullet weight on their site except for the 160 GR. HDY FTX. It does better velocity wise with bullets under 170 Gr.

Gee....so I'm not the only one that saw that.....

My point was that you'd be wise to double check ANY load data (even from mfg's), and to NEVER take anything from a website as gospel

just sayin'

 

[popper]

Hodgdon SELLS LVR, so why advertise something else. Haven't used LVR, but tried 8208 XBR and didn't like it, pressure and recoil are a lot greater then H335.

 

[Harley Quinn]

Seems there are many that use the H335 Little hot on this recommended

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/3030varmint.htm

From 1000 fps with 10 grains of 2400 to 2500 fps with 36.5 grains of H335, and that’s from a 20 inch barrel, this 150 grain cast bullet shaped like a fist is extremely accurate. The H335 load runs just over 40,000 psi so be sure your 30-30 is in good condition.....