30 cal rifle suppressor

[blarby]

So, I think its finally time for a suppressor.

I have property, and would like to muffle report from rifle discharges.

I'm interested in a full-size 30 caliber suppressor, that could be used for both 30 caliber and 25 caliber rifles.

I'll admit, suppressing things isn't my wheelhouse.

So, I need your help !

I've been doing a lot of reading, and im almost more lost now than when I started.

My big questions basically come down to three things :

#1. Are there suppressors capable of reducing ( but not eliminating entirely, I get that) full power rifle loads without sustaining damage ?

#2 Is it necessary to have two cans : One for 30 cal and one for 25 cal, or as the reading leads me to believe one for 30 and one for 25 ?

#3 With the above in mind, what would those of you who use them regularly recommend ?

I'm not looking to buy a lot of suppressors. I'd like to nail this one on the first try.

Thanks in advance !

 

[yugorpk]

1. I shoot full power .308 loads through a silencer all the time without hearing protection. The crack happens down range and not near your head.

2. Use a silencer that uses QD mounts in different barrel sizes with a .308 can. I use my 762 Specwar on all my .308, 300 BLK, .223 and 5.7 stuff and it sounds as good or better than most or all dedicated ..223 cans because its bigger and contains more gas even though the bore to bullet is looser than ideal.

3. I like the 762 SpecWar can a lot. There are newer cans on the market but put them against the SpecWar and you might not see any notable difference. There are brakes or flash suppressors for most barrel threading under 30 cal and it just plain sounds good. My SIG 762Ti is quieter but not as versatile as the Specwar.

 

[blarby]

Not the first time ive heard specwar, thank you for the recommendation !

I guess I don't fully understand the bullet/borefit correlation to noise suppression.. Not surprising, I dont understand lots of stuff !

 

[yugorpk]

The bore to bullet "fit" is not that important. I mean to an extent it is but volume inside the can and the type of baffles are much more significant in terms of actual performance. If you want the smallest and lightest then go for the tighter bore. If you are willing to accept a larger/heavier can you will get better performance out of it than you will out of a tighter/smaller can.

 

[blarby]

Im willing to accept the weight of the specwar, especially considering its going to be used on Bipod mounted rifles exclusively.

 

[Ohen Cepel]

The Omega may also be a good option (many out there) as it has the option for direct thread as well as attaching to brakes on the rifle. Gets $$$ to thread and put a $100 brake on each rifle you want to put it onto. Also, on a hunting rifle I don't want/like a brake on it.

Shouldn't be an issue with the .25's unless you have a magnum .25 and are trying to run it in a .308 (or lower) can.

I would suggest getting a can rated for 300WM so that it covers everything below that. May weigh a little more but worth it in the long run I think.

Silencer Shop is a good place to look to have them all in one place.

Depending on where you are it's nice/faster if you can find the can in stock at a local dealer. Plus, lets you see/heft it before you buy.

 

[Grumulkin]

I have a Thunderbeast supressor that's rated for up to 300 Winchester Magnum that I use on a 300 Blackout and a 308 Winchester. With subsonic loads, hearing protection isn't needed with the 300 Blackout. Though noise is reduced considerably (my wife no longer minds if I shoot in the back yard), I wear hearing protection when shooting the 308 Winchester. Recoil reduction is much better than with a brake.

 

[Elkins45]

Not the first time ive heard specwar, thank you for the recommendation !

I guess I don't fully understand the bullet/borefit correlation to noise suppression.. Not surprising, I dont understand lots of stuff !

I was surprised myself when I fired a .223 through my 30 cal silencer. The small difference in bore size matters a lot less than I would have thought--so much so that I wonder why anybody buys 223 cans unless they know they will never own a 30. A good 30 can will be quite versatile.

There are many good cans that can withstand up to fully loaded 300 magnum. If I were buying another can (and I'm tempted) I would buy the new titanium Sig can.

 

[Crunchy Frog]

There are lots of good choices on the market. Some of the .30 caliber cans have end caps that you can replace with a 5.56 end cap for use on the smaller caliber. My choice was the Rugged Suppressors Surge 7.62. It can be used in a long or short configuration.


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[yugorpk]

I was surprised myself when I fired a .223 through my 30 cal silencer. The small difference in bore size matters a lot less than I would have thought--so much so that I wonder why anybody buys 223 cans unless they know they will never own a 30. A good 30 can will be quite versatile.

There are many good cans that can withstand up to fully loaded 300 magnum. If I were buying another can (and I'm tempted) I would buy the new titanium Sig can.

Ive got the Titanium thread on SIG can. Its use is somewhat limited though as its threaded 5/8 for 30 cal rifles. SIG doesnt make a 1/2x28 brake for their QD titanium 30 cal can for some weird reason and that brake they use on the QD cans is something only a mother , or engineer, could love.

 

[blarby]

Lots of good input, thank you.

Fwiw, I'm looking at making the "house line" all ruger American Predator models, which come prethreaded.

I have the .25-06 now

 

[Elkins45]

Ive got the Titanium thread on SIG can. Its use is somewhat limited though as its threaded 5/8 for 30 cal rifles. SIG doesnt make a 1/2x28 brake for their QD titanium 30 cal can for some weird reason and that brake they use on the QD cans is something only a mother , or engineer, could love.

I use my 30 cal thread-on can on a 223 all the time with a simple 5/8-24 to 1/2-28 thread adapter. I bought a high quality one from Brownell's to make sure it's concentric. For $20 it makes my can a lot more versatile.

 

[LocoGringo]

Something else to consider is how you will shoot with it. If you plan on doing mag dumps, you will need a durable suppressor that can withstand the heat generated. If you plan on firing relatively slow and steady, lighter materials can be used.

Generally, a stainless steel suppressor is VERY durable, but the cost is weight. I have 2 .30 caliber suppressors that are titanium and are both rated up to .300 Win Mag pressures, but would not necessarily be good for a high rate of fire. I also have a stainless steel suppressor that ain't pretty, but can take a lot of abuse. It is mounted on a SBR, so the weight is mitigated a bit. The lightweight titanium is very nice on a long(er) barrel.

 

[taliv]

#1 definitely

#2 no, but thunderbeast sells a 30 caliber can with a smaller hole for the popular 26 caliber bullets, so that would be the best of both

#3 if the bipod comment implies this is mostly a precision rifle (and not something you're doing CQB / 3gun / mag dumps with) then there are really just two great options: thunderbeast ultra and silencerco omega.

 

[Ranger Roberts]

It seems the other guys have tackled question #1 & 2, so I will head directly to #3.

Take a look at the Saker 762. It has a lifetime warranty, it is user serviceable, it is very quiet, I shoot everything from a 223 up to a 300 win mag through mine, the QD (quick detach) mounts are awesome but you can get DT (direct thread) mounts for it as well and it is full auto rated.

 

[Ryanxia]

I "compared" several .30 cal suppressors online and ended up deciding on the AAC 762-SDN-6 for the purposes of an AR15 platform. It is heavy but durable, capable of full loads and a high rate of fire which was more important to me than the weight especially going on an SBR. Although I ordered two other suppressors (different calibers) that weight considerably less and it's pretty nice.

 

[blarby]

For clarification, this will be used in a "precision rifle" role, across multiple calibers, from a bolt action rifle system.

The original , starting rifle will be a ruger American Predator, in .25-06.

It will likely also be used in a .308 win, and if possible, a .223.

 

[MCMXI]

I have four .308 Win suppressors including the following:

AAC MK13-SD
AAC 762-SDN-6
DAA SANDMAN-S
DAA SANDMAN-L

I've found all of them to be very accurate and repeatable and my favorite is the MK13-SD since it offers excellent sound reduction and since it has a titanium tube it's light. However, lately I'm just not a fan of the AAC 18T, 51T and 90T QD system and would have my AAC suppressors converted to direct thread if I could. The Dead Air Armament mounting system is very good and so I would recommend the -S or -L depending on your intended use. Noise reduction is very similar regardless of which suppressor you use so for me it comes down to accuracy, repeatability (on/off/on/off etc.), the mounting system, weight and length.

 

[Gtscotty]

Do you think you will hunt with this suppressor any? If so I would put some value on the lighter weight options (which would still work well on precision style rifles) . I have a Saker 762, which is a great sounding bullet proof can, but it is a little on the heavier side for the type of hunting I do. If I was going to buy another can, I would probably go with one of the titanium offerings, specifically the Sig, or more likely the Thunderbeast Ultra 7.
Several of the Thunderbeast guys use my local range for recreational shooting and testing, so I've gotten to play around some with their ultra series cans, and the Ultra 7 is a near perfect marriage of what I want in a suppressor. It's super light, tough, short, and sounds really good on .30's, 6.5's and even 5.56. Titanium cans are probably not the best choice if you're looking to till up the berm with large volumes of suppressing fire, but for slower more precise firing regimens they are about perfect.

 

[blarby]

Any hunting done with this suppressor will be done within a 4 acre square, and it doesn't and wont move very far.