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.300 Win Mag suppressors

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by 03teufel, Apr 28, 2014.

  1. 03teufel

    03teufel New Member

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    I'm about to purchase my first suppressor. I've shot various suppressed weapons in the past (AR, MP-5, .22 rifle and handguns) but I've never bought my own. I've been doing some research on Google the last couple of weeks and I have some ideas, but I want to start with a fresh slate here. Does anyone have experience with a .300 Win Mag suppressor or some of the other .30 magnums?

    I'm hoping to keep the cost of the suppressor itself around $1,500. That's including the suppressor, $200 tax stamp and I'm also thinking about going the trust route so that's going to be another $200 initial start up. Basically I'm looking for a suppressor that's $1,000-1,200. If there's a cheaper one on the market that is still high quality I'm obviously open to that as well. Any suggestions?
     
  2. Owen

    Owen Moderator Emeritus

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    I've used the KAC MK11 suppressors and the Surefire suppressor on .300 WM. I prefer the Surefire, because of the mount. The MK11 requires a specific contour on the barrel.
     
  3. Arizona_Mike

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    Thinking ahead I would choose something .338 Lapua rated and then use it with smaller magnums.

    Mike
     
  4. wally

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    Good strategy, but only if you can stand the extra size, weight, and expense of can when using the smaller magnums.

    Probably not so good if the .338 is not solidly in your future plans.

    I started with a 7.62 can and planned to use it on 5.56, but I really disliked the extra size and weight so I quickly (back when the wait was about half what is is now :( ) got a 5.56 suppressor.
     
  5. 03teufel

    03teufel New Member

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    I've been looking at some of the high end suppressors from KAC, Surefire, AAC and a few others. Most of them are a little pricey, the Surefire and AAC cans are $1,800. While I have no doubts that they are worth every dollar to the pros, I don't need all of the best high speed gear. I just need something that is reasonably quiet, durable and as ergonomic as possible for the price. With that being said, I've been looking at cheaper alternatives. I'm not ruling out any of the above suppressors, but I honestly don't see myself purchasing one.

    Anybody have any experience with Yankee Hill Machine? They have very reasonable prices, but what are they sacrificing in terms of quality in order to sell cans at that price? I've been digging on Google and it seems your average shooter is very pleased with their YHM suppressor. They also have a lifetime warranty which is very pleasing if I do decide to buy a 'cheap' suppressor. I'm looking at something like this.

    https://yhm.net/titanium-30-cal-thread-on-phantom.html
     
  6. Ohen Cepel

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    As the others have said, make sure you want the weight/size/expense of the 300WM can before you go that route. You can put it on other things but unless you're going to shoot a 300 a lot going .308 may make a lot more sense.

    I would buy the best you can afford. May not need the performance/durability but it's not likely you will be selling it in your lifetime.
     
  7. 03teufel

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    I'm set on a .300 WM can because it's only going to be used on one rifle, which is my Remington 700 that's chambered in .300 WM. The only other weapon I might even consider suppressing in the future is one of my AR's. That's going to be down the road if I even decide to do it and I'll have a separate can for that application.

    Right now I'm weighing options between different manufacturers as well as different suppressor styles. Since I don't plan on moving the suppressor from rifle to rifle, I think I'm going to go with a can that threads directly onto the barrel as opposed to some sort of QD mount over a muzzle brake. If I had planned on moving the can to an AR-10 and back to a bolt gun I'd probably go with the QD option, but that isn't the case. In a way I like the notion of being able to easily swap between a braked rifle and a suppressed rifle, but I don't really plan on shooting the rifle without the suppressor.

    Nothing on Yankee Hill?
     
  8. Ohen Cepel

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    My gunsmith likes Yankee Hill and I trust his opinion. I like AAC myself.

    For that use I would also go with the threaded version. The flash hider versions are nice but not if you don't want the flash hider on the rifle and in the case of AAC the hiders run around $80 which adds up.

    The clean lines of a threaded barrel with a thread protector look better to me on more traditional rifles.
     
  9. 03teufel

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    One more question on can design. I noticed YHM sells both stainless and titanium cans. Most people will swear by the lighter weight of the titanium suppressors, but is a stainless can really THAT bad? Again, if I had a can I was swapping between multiple platforms I'd go with a smaller, lighter design. I wouldn't put a huge can on the end of let's say an AR-10, HK-91 or FAL. Since all of my shooting is going to be done on a bolt action rifle from the prone, on a pack or on a bench is the extra weight of a stainless can really going to be that much of a drawback?

    I know that in the end it's going to boil down to what I want to buy, but I'd like to make the most informed purchase that I can. I guess in the end, is it worth it to spend an extra $300 for 10 less ounces? Also, are there any performance differences between a stainless and titanium suppressor?
     
  10. dumluk

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    Have you looked at the silencerco specwar 7.62? Its rated up to 300 RUM, and will run about $900, with the stamp. Rated for 5.56 and 300aac out of a 7" barrel.

    Heavy construction and lifetime warranty. The downside is 9" and 24 oz roughly. And not direct thread, mounts are around $70 (comes with one)

    If you're not concerned with something that can handle short barrel mag dumps and plan on bolt gun usage only take a look at their harvester model. It's cheaper and lighter.

    http://www.silencerco.com/harvester/
     
  11. Arizona_Mike

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    I've been eying the 556 Specwar because it is so quiet, like 3dB quieter than the Saker. If the 762 is rated for magnuns, I doubt you would find a much smaller one magnum rated.

    Mike
     
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    Thunderbeast 30-P1 or Templar Tactical Archangel would fit the bill for you use. Both are around 1K$$. I doubt you will be throwing a bunch of rounds down range in a hurry, but if you are go with a .338 can.
     
  13. dumluk

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    Fyi, The 7.62 meters a little better than the 5.56, with 5.56. (Silencershop.com has a video on YouTube) Its longer and heavier, but more versatile. I went with it because it was my first centerfire can, figured it made sense to have one as versatile as possible. Next one will probably be a dedicated 5.56
     
  14. Liberty Suppressors

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    Take a look at our Freedom Mag at $930. It is rated for 300 Win Mag and down. The Victory Mag is rated for the 300 RUM and down at $1395. They both do come as a thread mount and we offer a quick attach option at an additional cost.

    Tim @ Liberty
     
  15. 03teufel

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    Tim, thanks for the link on the Freedom Mag. The suppressor I currently have my eyes set on is a YHM Phantom. It has very similar specs to your suppressor. Both suppressors have a 32-33 dB reduction and the YHM suppressor weighs 2.5 oz more than yours. Other than saving two and a half ounces in weight, is there any other reason you could convince me to spend $225 more on your can? YHM also has a lifetime warranty. I'm open to any and all suggestions right now so don't leave any saved rounds.
     
  16. red89notch

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    SAS Arbiter, almost no POI shift. All titanium ultra lightweight can rated for .300 win mag.
     
  17. Citadel99

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    I was in the same situation and decided to go with the Thunderbeast rated for the 300 Win Mag. Can use it on a number of my other rifles as well. Only down side is they aren't rated for rapid fire on the AR, but I really don't do that anymore...

    Mark
     

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