30 months in jail for broken gun!

[plexreticle]

Looks to me someone is doing 30 months for being stupid.

 

[MASTEROFMALICE]

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Sans Authoritas

I'm really starting to dislike that guy...

It's alright, Ridgerunner. His screen name translates to "without authority" and he rarely passes up an opportunity to let us know we should live in total anarchy.

At least, that what his posts would lead me to believe.

 

[jerkface11]

Anarchy is better than oppression.

 

[K3]

It's alright, Ridgerunner. His screen name translates to "without authority" and he rarely passes up an opportunity to let us know we should live in total anarchy.

At least, that what his posts would lead me to believe.

I don't get that at all from his posts.

My take is that he is for a very limited government, one not unlike what the founders had envisioned.

Limited =/= anarchy.

 

[siglite]

As a little "l" libertarian, I find Sans sarcasm hilarious most of the time.

You guys should check out the audio from Len Savage's interview on this case over at JPFO.

This guy was railroaded.

 

[Owens]

I believe there is more to this than is letting be known. Differing accounts, variations in stories. Not sure what to believe.
1) a firearm either malfunctioned or was made to
2) evidence was created / manipulated or not
3) persons history was questionable or not

Would be nice to see the court transcripts though.

 

[MASTEROFMALICE]

My take is that he is for a very limited government, one not unlike what the founders had envisioned.

When you find the lower limit he's espousing please let me know.

 

[MASTEROFMALICE]

Anarchy is better than oppression.

And a balance is better than both, so how about we shoot for that, shall we?

If I gave you the option of cutting off your right leg or your left leg, wouldn't you rather I cut off neither?

The whole anarchy thing was cute when I was 15 and had it out for the world, but growing up is supposed to imbue some sense of responsibility.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

"The whole anarchy thing was cute when I was 15 "


it wasn't really cute i just thought it was then again back then i was just leaving my parents "oppression"and i hated those cops who took that bag of weed for 15 years

 

[Ridgerunner665]

Sans Authorits is not a bad guy...In most of his posts he is using sarcasm to reflect exactly what many here believe...the sarcasm threw me until we talked.

The only thing that I can see about him from his posts is this...he is smarter the the average "Joe"...an education is a powerful weapon if aimed in the right direction.

 

[sinistr]

wow.my fs2000 doubled up once in a while.i had a lightning strikes glock trigger go full auto on me,sent it in...got it back and it still did the same!should i turn myelf in and hope for lienency?

 

[siglite]

wow.my fs2000 doubled up once in a while.i had a lightning strikes glock trigger go full auto on me,sent it in...got it back and it still did the same!should i turn myelf in and hope for lienency?

JPFO contends that this case is a precedent for putting a man in jail for a very long time over a malfunctioning firearm. Len Savage agrees, as do many others.

I have to admit though, that most of what I've seen and read on this case has been from the defendant's perspective. I haven't read much from the government's side.

 

[newsmonster]

I don't really get why your (US) goverment would have such a problem with automatic weapons.

As I read it from outside the US, Americans can have as many weapons and ammo as they want, including semi auto rifles and shotguns.

Why is your goverment so concerned with full autos?

 

[JohnBT]

Well, until we do get some facts, there's time for us to practice our conversational skills. Okay, one of our conversational skills. And one of only limited usefullness at that.

www.sarcasmsociety.com

 

[freakshow10mm]

Newsmonster, read this article on my website:

http://www.freakshowbullets.com/article_info.php?articles_id=1

 

[FullEffect1911]

just to throw this out, Lou Dobbs was the only major newscaster to report on this that I know of. He was outraged and was shocked no one else was.

 

[CDignition]

Just to set the facts straight.. ANY M16 parts inside an AR-15 lower, aside from the Bolt Carrier(Colt supplied AR-15's this way), are considered a MG by ATF.. so if u have a m16 disconnecter, or trigger, you're donked. Drilling holes or machining don't matter at all..

But u guys already know that,lol.

 

[newsmonster]

freakshow10mm,

Thanks. So it all comes down to 1930's gangsters and the depression (supressors) ;P

Is there any chance of the goverment updating these laws?

 

[BryanP]

Man, there is a ton missing from that story. Plus the fact that it's very old news.

The source is WorldNutDaily. Outdated, poorly written misinformation slanted to fit their viewpoint is par for the course.

 

[DaveBeal]

the ATF paid Mr. Kiernicki 'an undisclosed amount of money' to testify against Mr. Olofson at trial,

The government routinely reimburses witnesses for expenses incurred in giving grand jury testimony. I assume the same is true in trials.

Before we all assume that Olofson is an innocent victim, from the link referenced in post #7:

Assistant U.S. Attorney Gregory Haanstad noted that Olofson had two previous gun-related convictions, including carrying a concealed weapon with his children trick-or-treating. He also noted that Olofson was reprimanded for corrupting Army computers and perhaps providing militia groups access to sensitive information.

Also from that link:

Kiernicki testified Olofson told him the third position was for automatic firing, but it jammed, court records indicate. He also testified Olofson told him he had fired the weapon on the automatic setting at that same range without a problem, according to the records.

 

[Flame Red]

just to throw this out, Lou Dobbs was the only major newscaster to report on this that I know of. He was outraged and was shocked no one else was.

Glenn Beck gave it some good coverage too.

 

[blackcash88]

I'm with ColinthePilot. How in the heck did this guy get caught? I've bump fired my AKs, ARs and SKSs and no one ever questioned me about them being a "machine gun". I've had other weapons slam fire like an old .22 pistol that ripped off an entire magazine.

 

[mekender]

You guys should check out the audio from Len Savage's interview on this case over at JPFO.

This guy was railroaded.

from what i know from talking with Len and reading what he writes, i tend to believe that if he is on this guy's side, then the guy did indeed get screwed... Len does not strike me as the kind of guy that would stick his reputation out there for a nutjob that filed off some parts for a secret setting on his AR...

 

[1911Tuner]

The man's AR-15 had a trigger, hammer, disconnector and selector from an M-16, and he told the investigators that he knew how to make an AR-15 shoot fully auto with those parts by accelerating wear and adjusting appropriately.

Besides being a stupid thing to say to an investigating officer...it's absolute sheep dip.

While the four M16 parts mentioned are part of the conversion...it's not all the parts that are needed and he couldn't have "accelerated wear" and "made adjustments" to make it burst or full auto capable.

It doesn't work that way. Neither does filing on the sear to elicit a hammer jar-off. While it might produce a 2-shot burst once in 500 tries...it's more likely to have the hammer stop the bolt about halfway to battery. The AR15 hammer and bolt have corresponding angles that are designed to halt the bolt in the event of hammer follow.

Of course, gluing the floating firing pin in the forward position might cause it to fire a burst...it's more likely to blow the gun up than work...and even if it did work...the only way to get it to stop would be for it to either: Jam...Run out of ammo...or press the bolt stop.

 

[jrfoxx]

Assistant U.S. Attorney Gregory Haanstad noted that Olofson had two previous gun-related convictions, including carrying a concealed weapon with his children trick-or-treating.

The monster dared defy his benevolant gubbmint for something as petty as wanting to protect his children's lives? Get the rope!

. He also noted that Olofson was reprimanded for corrupting Army computers

Which could easily mean he simply installed Tetris on a computer.Dont laugh, I watched a guy get 30 days restriction for installing and playing a videogame on a Navy computer." damage of Govt. property" and article 92

and perhaps providing militia groups access to sensitive information

"and perhaps" means "we have no evidence", but it makes him sound evil, so it's ok to use the allegation to demonize him.

As to the guys guilt or innocense, only he knows for sure, and it will likely stay that way forever. I can easily see him being the liar, and I can easily see the govt being the liar and railroading him. Wouldn't be the first time for either.