.300 win mag issue

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as much as i dont want to admit this and eat the crow.......:uhoh:its not the rifle, apparently it is "magnumitus" aka "pussitus".......

my gunsmith friend ask that i leave it with him to verify it was the gun and not me(had gotten his curosity up and he wanted to call Remington if it was the gun). i went in yesterday to see what he found and guess what..... 1.5 group at 100yds on cheap federal loads.

he did give me the comfort of saying that it was the most punishing 300 win mag he had ever shot and it did knock his rest off the bench. i know excuses, excuses.

we were planning on making a run to cabelas last night any way as my friend wanted to pick up an M4 so i went and picked up a limbsaver recoil pad to put on. I am going to give her 2 more boxes and then if im still having cramps, ill trade it in on a 30-30 or 243

I guess i have some bench time coming..............
 
doesn't remington make a managed recoil 300 wm load?


If not, then sounds to me like a damn good reason to start loading your own. :)


I have seen trail-boss loads for a 300 WM. :D
 
I hate to say that I sorta figured that much. The .300WM is brutal in a lightweight sporting rifle. I second the idea of reduced recoil loads, and also suggest investing in a good recoil pad and perhaps a bit of weight in the stock.

:)
 
I believe Hornady makes 3 different levels of ammo for the .300 Win Mag. A 30/06 level, standard level and a Tyranasaurus load.
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The fact that it's you is GOOD news. Now you can fix it. Muzzle brake, limbsaver, maybe one of those dead mule things.......
 
More gun than is necessary for the task, more gun than the individual can handle... Why put up with it? Some young sucker is going to think it's the bee's knees and will happily trade his hand-me-down .257 Roberts for it.
 
Getting rid of that 300 win mag is a good call, a 300 mag for deer is like buying a 1 ton dulley V10 4x4 to pull a 12 foot aluminum boat, sure it will do it, but why burn the extra gas? No deer/hog/yote......ect has ever lived long enough to complain about my puney little 6.5x55, none have even made it out of sight. If you absolutly have to have a magnum for trajectory reasons I recomend the 270 WSM, absolutly a million and one times better then any of my 7mm rem mags. Less muzzle blast, shorter barrel, lighter weight, every bit as accurate, better to handload, and best of all MUCH less recoil. NEVER going back to a belted mag ever again, it is THAT GOOD!
 
The LimbSaver can make a difference but may not be enough on it's own. I would inquire (depending on your timeline) about a muzzle brake as well. My father is in his 60s and shoots a .300 Win. Mag with ease. His first range session was 40+ rounds without issue. He has bad shoulders with multiple injections and surgeries and weighs in at a slight 170. His secret is a recoil reducing stock, LimbSaver pad AND a muzzle brake. That .300's felt recoil is less than a 20 ga. by my estimation. It is loud (I recommend plugs and earmuffs) but shoots factory ammo including Superformance to posted specs. Even with the brake closed there is no change in velocities but a huge change in recoil.

You won't be out anymore than you'd be losing in trade to have one installed. Then you'll have the benefits of a long range hammer that can be loaded light for Bambi. A thumbhole stock (which can incorporate a mercury recoil reducer) could be added in the future for further recoil reduction if warranted but I think you'll be fine with the pad/brake combo.

His was done by E.A. Brown in Minnesota but Cabelas my have the service available as well. Worth considering if you don't need it this season or can handle one or two more rounds in the field. I just hate to see people loose money trading.

You might also try your field coat (if you hunt in cold weather) and Simms (LimbSaver) also makes a slip on shoulder pad that helps. Best of luck.
 
the limbsaver made a huge difference.
I refuse to make any more excuses as to why i cant get along with this particular rifle. it is time to Bench up and get comfy. If i can shoot a 7mm ultra mag with out flinching, i can tame this pony.

now i know what has to be done... just have to do it.
 
Great to hear. Just remember it is still a production rifle and won't likely give single hole results. There is a website for 700 owners and enthusiasts you may want to look at for tips and tricks to tighten up your groups.

I really like my 700 (and my Win., Marlin, Knight, etc.) but after shooting that T/C I'm tempted to start saving my pennies for a single rifle, multiple barrel set-up rather than saving for another gun safe. I'll probably just save for both.
 
Put a real stock with a real recoil pad on that rifle to start, and then if needs be port it or have a muzzle break added.

Or buy a rifle in a more sensible caliber because you sure as heck don't really need a .300 Winchester to hunt mule deer or antelope. Don't need it for elk either.
 
got some bean field time this afternoon. I picked up some winchester 150gr factory loads last night. way mo' betta than what it has been. think ill keep the cannon........ (at bit over 100yds)
 

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It would be real easy to sell that rifle. Just take it to the range on a busy day, and look for anyone desperate to prove what a big man they are, (any twenty-something year old white boy will do...especially if his friends have AR-15's). Tell them what a huge cannon it is, and how no one can tame the rifle and "shoot it like a man" (he'll be sold for sure by this point). Make sure and say the word 'magnum' at least 5 or 6 times. Give him a price that's $100 bucks MORE than what you paid for it. Stand back while he flails for his wallet, digs out all his dough, and then promises to go get more......Tell him you're thinking you might not want to sell it......wait......then "relent" and jack the price another $50........

Take his money and go buy a real hunting weapon, not just the hugest thing in the gunstore........Laugh about the young sucker once you're in the car going to the gunstore...
 
I bought a 700 sps 308. Recrowned barrel, glass bedded, trigger job, by a Remington certified gunsmith. Many loads, bullets, etc. no joy. best i could get was about 2.5" to 3' at 100 yards.
Sold it.
 
Like I said, my 63 year old dad shoots a 300 Win. Mag. There is a time and place for the cartridge. It can indeed be loaded down for deer sized game or loaded up for a 500 yard shot on an elk. The desire to tame recoil makes it more pleasant to shoot not more gun than the shooter can handle. I commend the op for not giving up on a decent rifle.

People really ought to watch less TV and look at more wind drift charts. I suppose some of you ought to write Stephen Harper and warn him that his snipers are using 338 Lapua to kill man sized targets. That is overkill, isn't it? At a mile and a half? Ohhh, time and place for everything. Must be why our guys are clamoring for a longer range cartridge, to prove they can't be outdone by those Canadians...wait! 50BMG...
 
Maverick223, 8in od, green ring is 2in.

this was by far not the biggest thing at the gun store. that would be a 50 bmg or 600 nitro.

you know i sleep with a 45ACP for a reason. i like to know that i just have to make 1 shot, wheather ive drawn a bead on a turkey, set the hairs on a deer or grabbing the 45 in the middle of the night. i wasnt raised to shoot to wound. before all the small cal guys open up on me, I WILL make a clean well placed shot, but i want to know the deer etc isnt getting up, that is why i bought a 300 win mag.
 
Figured that much; that puts you at about 2MOA which isn't too bad out of a production rifle.

Just remember that no matter what cartridge you use, you have to be able to shoot it well, whether that be a .45ACP, .380ACP; a .300WM or .243Win., but give yourself a little time on it (& perhaps a better recoil pad) and i'm sure you'll do fine.

:)
 
Are you good at shooting?
I wouldnt be happy with those groups. and i wasnt when my rifle shot like that.
Now im down to .5" groups, and love my rifle.
I realize it was me. not the gun.
 
Just teasing steelwheel.......don't want to hurt any feelings or slight anyone, just teasing. You can tease me too, I won't object.
 
I am not a bad shot but no expert. i am by no means content with where she sits now since im pretty sure i can do better with the ol' 45, but you must understand that this has been a battle for some time and to get a group that tight is monumental for Us. like I said now i know what the problem is i can start the tweeking process for me and the rifle.

Maverick223--Better recoil pad? what do you suggest?

JonnyV no hard feelings here, just explaining why i bought what i bought.

when i bought the 300wm, i did look at the 300 ultra mag and the 338 lapua and decided they were too far beyond the overkill line and a 300wm was some what more acceptable.
 
Maverick223--Better recoil pad? what do you suggest?
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Pachmayr (Triple Magnum, XLT, or Decelerator), Kick Eez, and Limbsaver are all good soft pads well suited to magnum rifles (or shotguns). Personally I prefer Pachmayr because they hold together a bit better IME, but all of the above work pretty well at taming recoil.

:)
 
He posted replaced pad with SVL LimbSaver and it made a big difference but solid list posted by Maverick
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Thanks, Skylerbone...I completely missed that post. steelwheelrat, there is absolutely no reason to change it again, forgive my disregard of your update.

:)
 
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