.308 nato......MIA?

[paintballdude902]

i need to feed my 2a enfield and i can find and ammo!!!

so far all i have found is some indian for .50 cents a pop

some south african for 70 bucks plus per battle pack

and of course some lithuanian for 110 per battle pack




god back in november i got some pakistani that i was happy with but now i cant find any of it


is there any sensibly priced .308 nato left?

 

[Father Knows Best]

Nope. Supplies are limited right now. I'm kicking myself for selling off 2,000 rounds of Agentine and South African a while back.

FYI, it's either 7.62x51 NATO or .308 Winchester, but it's not "308 NATO."

 

[Sunray]

Except for Lithuania, none of those countries are now nor ever were part of NATO. In any case, the days of inexpensive surplus ammo, of any kind, are over.

 

[paintballdude902]

sunray

yeah but still u would think u could get something for less than fifty cents a pop

man i can shoot .30-30 for cheaper than some surplus .308

 

[Floppy_D]

I sold my PTR-91 because I couldn't find food for it.

 

[SnakeEater]

the days of inexpensive surplus ammo, of any kind, are over.

Yes they are. Even the 5.45 that everybody talks about isn't great at $125/can.

 

[Dave R]

One word: reload.

Its cheaper than milsurp these days. And more fun.

 

[eldon519]

It's even hard to find brass for reloading at the moment cause of the upcoming September price hikes.

I agree though, reloading is the way to go.

 

[paintballdude902]

well i am 17 and we dont have a garage so i really dont have cash or the place to set up a reloading setup


anyone seen any of the pof 7.62 around?

 

[elenius]

I was going to suggest Silver Bear ammo, but looking again, it looks like that's gone too! This stuff is going fast! I'm glad I just bought 7000 bullets and 3000 brass for reloading

You could try Barnaul, 37 cents a pop at http://ammunitiontogo.com

BTW, the bullets I got (Hornady 150 gr bulk) are now gone too!

 

[paintballdude902]

crazy


is silver bear nato spec

 

[Gator]

paintballdude902,

Here's all you need to get started:

http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/browse.cgi?1187835013.5977=/html/catalog/cleeloader.html

 

[paintballdude902]

ive looked b4 and wondered if i can shoot lead cast bullets out of my 2a

that would save me alot of cash

or will i have to buy bullets

 

[Gator]

You certainly can shoot cast bullets in your rifle, but not at high velocities.

 

[paintballdude902]

well the way i figure i will do high quality ammo for hunting


but for killing paper commies i want to shoot very cheaply lol


so really i need to buy primers lead/projectiles brass and powder

 

[paintballdude902]

what size powder should i be using?

what are some books i can get on it

 

[greg531mi]

well i am 17 and we dont have a garage so i really dont have cash or the place to set up a reloading setup
I never had a garage, and loaded thousands of rounds of ammo.....
Find a friend that reloads, and learn!!!
I think the best book is Lyman....they been making reloading tools since my great grandfather was born.......and know their stuff....
Read it!
School was good for something....

 

[jzimm9mm]

The cheapest I've found recently was Barnaul from Wideners. I got 1000 rounds shipped for $0.35/round. If you don't have a lot of brass yet I would be surprised if you could reload for less. The Barnaul web site lists the muzzle velocity as 2750 ft/sec, which is in line with NATO spec 7.62. Wideners still has a lot of that ammunition. I haven't shot any of mine yet, so I can't speak for its quality. Good luck.

Jer..

update: from the Barnaul web site, the maximum pressure for their 7.62x51 (.308 Win) round is 42400 psi, which is below NATO spec. I believe this is the cartridge Wideners is selling. Barnaul also has a "military" 7.62x51, which has a max pressure of 52000 psi, which is maybe a little over NATO spec. Might want to call and confirm if you decide to go that route.
http://www.barnaulammunition.com/sporthunting.htm

 

[paintballdude902]

well greg......i spent geometry reading field and stream and outdoor life..........so when i take geometry agina this year i think ill pay attention lol

however i do have 3 computer classes


jzimm


thanks alot i think next time i go to the range im gonna scroung thru the brass and start picking up brass to reload

can i reload he barneul?

i have a birth day coming up on the second so i may have a decent ammount(double m intentional ammo-unt hehehe) of cash coming my way

 

[goldshlagerxx]

Barnaul will be steel cased and berdan primed. It can be reloaded in theory but is probably not worth the effort. Now is not a good time to get into the .308 game. I have 4 FAL's and 1 G3 to feed, I really miss the days of 1k of port for $140 shipped from AIM. I've started reloading recently and it still works out to be $.20 a round w/ surplus bullets, cheap powder and free brass.

BTW, what computer classes are you taking? I'm starting to miss my college days of programming in C++ and Java...

 

[paintballdude902]

welll i got my 2a enfield back in november so i came in right at the end of less than .50 around ammo


i dont feal like paying 15 bucks a pop for nato spec us ammo so i think i may start to reload




im actually still in high school so they are some what simple but next year will be my senior year and i am taking networking(cisco) but this year i am taking drafting which is cad(computer aided design), graphics one(computer graphics design) and cet2(computer engineering technology) cet is like an intro into a computer repair