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.32 ACP as SD round

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For some reason I'm drawn to a Beretta Tomcat .32 ACP in stainless. Very cool look, very compact in size, easy to conceal.

Anyone have one? Experience with it, accuracy, reliabilty?
Friend of mine has one. He loves it and has no problems with it. Accurate as all .32s which is acceptable but not a tack driver.

I have a KelTec P-32. I like it fine, but I must confess that the only reason I have one is that there was no such thing as the P3AT when I bought it. I have another .32 but it's a Colt 1903, so it doesn't get used. Supremely innaccurate, I might add.
 
actually the reason i asked about it is here in the summer it gets hot enough i wear light clothes (t-shirt, jeans) and my glock 17 sticks out like a sore thumb. In the winter when i wear a coat its fine but i was looking at something compact for low buck cuase it'll only be used three moths a year. I have a raven .25 ACP but i dont trust that small a caliber. Yes i could blow 600$ on a glock compact but if i only use it that much it isnt worth it. Here in SD the real threat is drunk/high native americans panhandling and just being a nusiance. 99.9% of the time just pulling your gun out makes them dissapear. the only occasion in the last 10 years where someone had to fire a pistol in self-defence was an attack by three drunk teens with knives and tire irons (mistaken identity/drug deal gone wrong) the victim pulled out a snubby .38 and wounded all three. He was never charged and they gave him his .38 back too.

SW
 
I don't like the .32, but it's probably better than a .22 or .25. With the pistol you mention, I'd use a 71 gr. FMJ bullet. It should feed the best and give the best penetration. I'd only use a .32 for self defense if I couldn't afford a snubnose Smith & Wesson or Colt .38 special revolver.
 
actually the reason i asked about it is here in the summer it gets hot enough i wear light clothes (t-shirt, jeans) and my glock 17 sticks out like a sore thumb.

Well, that's like 9 months out of the year in south Texas...:D That's why I don't consider my larger frame service size guns for CCW except on winter days when the temps drop to the point I ain't sweating in a T shirt...:rolleyes: :banghead:
 
NO, there is no PPK in 9mm. MCgunner

Actually the PPK will be marked 9mm Kurtz, which is .380acp. The Italians call it 9mm Corto and the Romanians 9mm Skurt. A lot of British gun writers, are guilty of saying the PP and PPK are available in 9mm. So there is some confusion about this, especially with folks new to the gun world.

The CZ 50 and 70 are good pistols, however the Czech 7.65mm ammo is hotter hence the recoil springs are usually a little stiff and sometimes will not function well with western ammo. You might want to get a new spring from Wolf Spring Co. if you go that route. The other problem with these guns is they are all steel and a little heavy by todays standards. Sights are a little small too. :scrutiny:

There are better small pistols out there today, hard to beat the little Keltec. Light and easy to carry...almost forget you have it.:evil:
 
I have both calibers and I prefer the 32 for CCW. If you could buy a late production KelTec p32 or late production Tomcat you would have an astonishing amount of firepower in a very small package. At 25yds I cannot hit with the p32 but the Tomcat is very capable with a skilled operator. The CZ 50/70 32 ACP usually has a heavy trigger pull and will function well with European hardball. They are cheap and reliable. Ammo cost is about the same for each gun. In thousands of rounds, I have never had a rimlock but I believe that anything can happen. I prefer to shoot ball ammo in the p32 -- Geco or RWS if available. My T'cat is best with cheapo PMC fmj. Both pistols will work with Fiocchi jhp.
 
I have a blue 32 Tomcat and like it very much. It's surprisingly accurate for such a small peice. I carry mine in a Kramer pocket holster, and the only thing that might give me away is sometimes it appears I have two wallets. I think it's the best option for shorts/T-shirt weather. I also carry a S&W mod 60 38 snubbie and a kimber 45, but neither of these are as concealable as the Tomcat if you're not wearing a jacket or outer shirt untucked. (Maybe they are in one of those man purse fanny pack things..........sorry, I considered them and no offense, I just CAN"T!) I'd feel more comfy with a bigger caliber, but some gun writer said it best when he said, "The best defensive pistol is the one you have with you. The 1911 in the safe at home does you no good." I carry the most pistol I can conceal given the current weather conditions. I use winchester hollow points in mine. No malfunctions, but I haven't put more than 100 rounds through it.
 
The one thing that always enters my thought process on the matter is this: If you need to use your handgun in self defense, you are going to need it to STOP a determined attacker. Anyone can be effectively threatened with a .22lr derringer, a Raven .25, a knife or even a sharp stick for that matter. I would not count on a .22 up through .380 to stop or repel a large human attacker, possibly 'altered' with drugs or alcohol, who is bent on harming me or my loved ones. I decided that for me, I will not rely on less than a 158 grain +P .38 for that. I had, carried and could accurately shoot a Kel-Tec .380. It was, contrary to a lot of other stories I've heard, 100% reliable with ball and Hydra-shoks. It was absolutely of a size, weight and shape that could be carried anywhere in any pocket. I always carried it summer mornings walking the dog in just 'gym shorts'. Compared to the KT, my snubby is huge and heavy, but in the grand scheme of things, it is still small and light enough to go everywhere with me, and for the most part it does.
 
Better than a .25acp. I wouldn't use either.

Apart from SUPER specialized applications, I consider .380acp the BARE minimum for a hideout gun.

If there's a 9x19mm gun anywhere close to the size of the .32acp, then choosing the latter is a mistake.

If size doesn't matter, but price does, there's no excuse to choose a .32acp auto over a used .38 Special revolver. I'd choose an S&W Model 10 or Model 13 over ANY .32acp ANY day as a home defense gun.
 
If you have a choice go with the 380. Many are six feet under from 32s.

Of course a 22, 25, 32 or 380 with you has much greater stopping power than a $1500 45ACP at home in your safe.
 
Being both a shooter and a collector I have my choice of many handguns and my personal choice is a 1011A1 or my Ruger P345. However when I run to the store or out somewhere in shorts and a t shirt I always have my Secamp 32 ACP loaaded with Speer Gold Dots in my side pocket. If I do need a defensive pistol while in Starbucks or similar place, I do not feel too undergunned if needed to save my life.
 
.32 as a self-defense round?

Well...it beats a .25acp. Then again, what doesn't beat a .25?
 
The CZ 50/70 has a longer barrel than the Tomcat and Kel Tec which improves the ballistics. My CZ50 is reliable with S&B hardball which is hotter than domestic standard 32acp. It needs to be kept clean. I picked up CZ 27 which is a nice pistol and will shoot Serbian hollow points after polishing the feed ramp. Polish the feed ramp on 32acp pistols with fine emery cloth wraped on a pencil. I carry different pistols up to 45acp depending on mood but always have a 32acp Kel Tec with the side clip in my waistband.
 
SilverState said...

"Thought the Seecamps only ate Silvertips."


That is a common misconception due to the fact that at one time the WST was the only .32 HP available. Today many are made in .32 that fit the Seecamp magazine including, Gold Dots, Cor Bon, Fiocchi, Hydra Shok, Hornady, and maybe a few others as well. All of the rounds I mentioned function in my "born in 1987" Seecamp. Some folks even shoot ball ammo, but that is NOT recommended.
http://seecamp.com/ammunition.htm


To all of the ".38 or bigger" crowd I say; Watch the video of Hinkley's attempt to kill Reagan,... That was only a .22. Ask Robert Kennedy's family how potent a little .22 can be. Any gun from .22 to .50 can kill and or stop an attack. You don't think so?? Let's spend a day together, and peridically I'll point a .22 or .32 at you:evil: ...and we'll see if there's any reaction. I'm guessing there would be.

Then this recent post;
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=197566
 
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Silverstate: You are correct and I had one of my senior moments. Soon as I saw your post I realized that the recommended load were Silvertips.:banghead:
 
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Browns Fan:

I have a KT P32. It has been 100% reliable and very accurate from self defense range.

I had a Walther PP (Mauharin mgf) several years ago and it was sweet. It was very accurate, and 100% reliable with the ball ammo I shot thru it. My problem with it is that I'm a lefty, it is not ambi, and the pistol was just a bit too heavy for cc for me..

I wish I had it back, so guess that tells ya my opinion of it, but my cc pistol of choice is the KT P32. The KT is simply so small and light as compared to anything else I've seen out there.

If I had a PP and a P32 my carry weapon would be the P32..

JMO

J. Pomeroy :D
 
Well, here's one place I differ in needs with other pocket pistoleers. I don't wear shorts, even in hot south Texas. Ain't just my boney knees, I ride motorcycles most every day. Motorcycles and shorts don't go well together. Jeans ain't much protection in a fall, but at least they keep you from burning from wind and sun and are better'n shorts. :what: I wear good ankle covering boots and usually an armored summer vest when I ride in addition to the jeans and prefer a tinted face shield to keep my nose from burning to a crisp on a long ride.

Different folks, different needs. That's why they build those tiny .32s. ;) With jeans an a T, I have very little trouble stashing a Kel Tec P11 9mm or a J frame out of sight. I do feel a lot better armed than with my .380 when I'm carrying either. If I, say, worked on the beach in shorts or swim suit and T, I'd think about a P3 AT. I'd also be an eyesore. ROFLMAO! I do own a pocket size .380, though, and I do occasionally carry it. I believe in a variety of guns for the variety of situations one finds oneself in. I even have an NAA mini. I believe I could find a way to hide that thing naked, but I won't elaborate.:what: :D
 
Rob Rocket said:
For some reason I'm drawn to a Beretta Tomcat .32 ACP in stainless. Very cool look, very compact in size, easy to conceal.

Anyone have one? Experience with it, accuracy, reliabilty?

I have one. More accurate than I thought it would be. I can get sub-3" groups out of mine at 15yds. So far, it's been reliable with several brands of ammo (S&B, WWB, R-P). I haven't fired anything but FMJ's though. That's what I plan to carry so that's what I shoot.
 
In favor of the 32 over the 380 is that it seems that with ultra small autos the 32s seem to have less problems than the 380s. My KelTec 3AT has had many problems and gun forums are filled with similar stories like mine. It seems those with ultra small 32s tend not to report nearly as many problems.
 
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