.32 Magnum and Cor Bon ammo

[shooter429]

Everybody that loves the .32 H&R Magnum, please help me out. I have been using Cor Bon ammunition for years in all my guns and love it, but I have not been able to find any Cor Bon in this wonderful little magnum caliber. I saw the new DPX line, and knew it would be perfect for a hot load in the .32 Magnum. So, today, I called up their engineering Department and inquired about ordering some. I was told, “You are the first person EVER to call us requesting this caliber.” I asked them what it would take to get production going. And the answer, of course, is “enough demand.” They stated that they are interested in hearing from anybody else who wants to buy their ammo in this caliber. I told them I would get the word out. So, please, get all your buddies together and call, write and e-mail Cor Bon or visit their website and request the 32 H&R Magnum.

They are at http://www.corbon.com/
Phone: 1-(605)-347-4544
Toll free: 1-800-626-7266
Address: 1311 Industry Rd. Sturgis, SD 57785

And if you are interested in getting into this sweet Magnum caliber, the following is a partial list of guns that fire it:

Smith and Wesson 431, 432PD, 432PD CT, and the now D/C’d but much appreciated Model 16 series.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/


Ruger Sp101, and Ruger New Model Single Six

http://www.ruger.com/


Feel free to PM me with questions or comments.

Thank you!

Shooter429

 

[cocojo]

read your post on S&W forum, sent cor bon an e-mail at
[email protected].

 

[280PLUS]

will do... I'd like to see what they'd come up with myself.

 

[shooter429]

Thanks all.

Shooter429

 

[461]

Email sent to Cor-Bon. Picked up a .32 MAg SP-101 today and am dying to get it to the range.

 

[Jim March]

http://www.naaminis.com/discus/messages/2/2905.html?1138246567

 

[only1asterisk]

As usual Jim, that's the whole unvarnished truth. The problem is with SAAMI pressure spec and projectile selction.

I'm not sure how much additional pressure the NAA design can take, but the Ruger SP101 is just getting started at SAAMI max. I'd like to see 32 Magnum +P in the 27500-30000psi range for Model 16's and SP101. That's never going to happen.

I'd like for Speer to make 32 Magnum bullets 90 and 100 grain bullets like the new 135 and 147 Gold Dot for the 38 Special. For that to happen, Speer would need to see a long term market. They need to sell a million bullets to break even. They don't even make a 32 Mag load. What does that tell you about their estimate of the market?

Until on of those things happens, the 32 Magnum will be a cartridge with great potential and limited practical use.

What we could do right now is convince someone to swage some 110 grain LSWCHP's that might be launched around 900fps from a short barrel. Hell, with bullets that small you could swage them on a reloading press.

David

 

[280PLUS]

FWIW GA told me their .32 H&R orunds are as hot as SAAMI will let them be. The problem is the older .32 Mag guns not being able to take any more pressure and noone wants to blow anybody up by them putting too hot a load in an older gun. Now if they came up with a different shape .32 Mag +P that wouldn't fit in a standard .32 Mag, they might have something, but then it would all go back to the marketing stuff Jim was talking about.

 

[only1asterisk]

I think I can beat the Georgia Arms velocity 50-75fps (at or below SAAMI max spec.) out of a longer barrel, but it will not mean anything in a barrel less than 2". Of course without knowing exactly where their quoted velocity comes from, I may blowing smoke. They are right about not wanting to stick a +P or +P+ round in a H&R revolver.

David

 

[only1asterisk]

Now if they came up with a different shape .32 Mag +P that wouldn't fit in a standard .32 Mag, they might have something, but then it would all go back to the marketing stuff Jim was talking about.

Curiously enough, cases are easier to get made than bullets.

You could do a thick rim, and shoot maybe shoot 32 H&R on moonclips, or you could make the case .05" longer. If you made the case longer you could still rechamber an SP101 or Model 16, but the Single Six would be out. The cylinder is too short to crimp bullets and still make the required OAL. The J frame guns would be long enough, but I don't know how what pressure they are suitable for.

David

 

[cocojo]

Got an email back from Cor Bon seems there going to start some R&D and will devlope a round soon. Good news.

 

[P. Plainsman]

Interesting and encouraging discussion, folks, as we continue with live coverage of the First Annual Thirty-Two H&R Magnum Day at The High Road Revolvers Forum.

[panning shot of waving crowd, Spiderman float]

Georgia Arms has asserted to THR posters that their 85 grain JHP in a snubby is good for 50-100 fps more velocity than their 100 gr round. Now, the 100 grained has been independently clocked from Smith snubbies at 975-1000 fps, so that would mean around 1050 fps with the smaller bullet. That still shades the .380 ACP.

I'm a wee bit surprised at this implication, because the GA 85 grainer doesn't feel hotter than the Federal and Black Hills JHPs, which definitely aren't moving at 1000+ fps. (Then again, I'm shooting all these loads in a Ruger SP101, which could probably handle a .32-20 without too much felt recoil.)

I hope GA is right. If they can get 85 @ 1050 from a snubby, then Cor-Bon can too, if not more. And I bet Cor-Bon could do a much better job of marketing the .32 H&R Mag and developing two niches -- teeny backup revolvers and small game hunting -- in addition to its extant niche in Cowboy shooting.

 

[P. Plainsman]

OK, some followup. I took my SP101 for a spin and ran both the Georgia Arms 85 gr JHPs and the Black Hills 85 gr JHPs through it, paying close attention to perceived recoil and/or muzzle blast.

I concluded that yes, actually, contrary to my post above, the GA round does feel somewhat hotter, though still mild in the 28 oz SP101.

Accordingly, I am inclined to credit GA's claim that their 85 grainer exceeds 1000 fps from a 2" snubby, even though the Black Hills load has been clocked at only 870 fps. Someone definitely needs to chrono a few GA rounds and confirm this.

The Ruger performed well. Both of these rounds are accurate. I put up a 3" diameter bullseye target at about 15 yards and saturated it with a few dozen rounds of the Black Hills and GA JHPs, using offhand double action fire at medium speed. 80% to 90% of the rounds were on the target and the rest were normally distributed close to it.

PS: Here's a correct pic of the 3" .32 Mag SP101 -- fellow's selling one on GunBroker:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=43191611

Another guy on GunBroker's got the same gun NIB for $356 -- nice deal -- but without the right picture.

 

[wbond]

Why bother with Corbon?

I own a Ruger SP101 in .32 Mag and am quite happy with both the Federal JHPs and the Georgia Arms JHPs.

I think the Federal would be ideal for a small, light S&W J-Frame .32 Mag. For the midsize Ruger SP101 I prefer the hotter loaded Georgia Arms 85 grain loads. GA also makes 100 grain loads, but I think they're to heavy and slow. I prefer the 85 grain ones.

I wish GA also made 90 grain ones, but they don't and no one else does either.

In any case, Corbon-shmorebon. Sure Corbon is good stuff, but so is GA and Federal and they both available.

The GA is both hot loaded and cheaply priced, yet is reliable stuff. What more could you ask for?

 

[MCgunner]

I have a friend with a Ruger SSM in .32 mag. He got it when they first came out. IIRC he was handloading to near 400 ft lbs with that thing. It is a VERY sturdy revolver. I'd reckon that anything that it could eat, the SP101 could eat, too, but no doubt one of his handloads would blow up that little NAA if and when it comes out.

I'm interested in the NAA. I am not really interested in a heavier, non-pocketable gun in the caliber. If it could shade the .380 in energy, I'd be very happy with it. Hopefully, the NAA could get it up in the 250 ft lb range, but I may be dreaming on that. I'm sure going to be reading all about that little NAA when it comes out. I'm kinda excited about that gun for some reason. Hopefully, there'll be speed loaders available for it after it comes out. Is there a Bianchi speed strip available for .32 mag, by chance???? I've never seen one in anything, but .38.

 

[Bob79]

wbond-I think the idea is just to have more options available is all. Its nice having so many ammo choices in the other calibers, so that way you can find something you really like. I do agree that the GA is good ammo, performs well, and is priced low, thats why I don't buy Federal's ammo anymore.

The Corbon round will most likely be under 85 grains if you look at thier practice of producing rounds of lighter weight, but greater velocity. I welcome any company that wants to put quality 32 H&R mag out there. I'll definately be buying the Corbon 32 mag ammo when it hits the shelves.

 

[wileyj]

Jeff Quinn did a test of the two little S&W's in .32H&R. That article has actual chronograph information on several rounds including the GA 100gr.
here is the link