butt_ugly_cowboy
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Howdy! Which do yall prefer, the 35 Rem or 30/30?
35 Rem or 30/30?
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butt_ugly_cowboy
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deer and varmint.
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35 Remington
rbernie
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I prefer the 35 Remington; it's a very useful round. The 30/30 is easier to find, if you of a mind to buy factory ammo.
Kronnkk
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30/30
i like bothand ya can find 30 / 30 every were for cheap
i like bothand ya can find 30 / 30 every were for cheap
Aaryq
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One can never argue with a thuddy thuddy
R.W.Dale
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The 35 launches a 200grn .358 diameter bullet as fast and sometimes faster than a 170grainer from a 30-30 what's not to love.
35rem everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. There was a thread about this awhile back and everyone who has owned both prefers the 35
35rem everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. There was a thread about this awhile back and everyone who has owned both prefers the 35
butt_ugly_cowboy
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35 Rem was what I was leanin towards a little more, I just wanted to make sure. I'll have both eventually though!
Officers'Wife
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If the 30/30 was in a Marlin and the 35 a Winchester- 30/30. It would appear the two cartridges are pretty much similar and each capable of seeing that what ever they hit stays shot. My concern would therefore have only two concerns: The rifle itself and availability.
Selena
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butt_ugly_cowboy
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Well, I'm gettin a Marlin 336c. Any experience with these?
LOL I know a lot about shotguns but not much about rifles... yet.
LOL I know a lot about shotguns but not much about rifles... yet.
Officers'Wife
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Hi Cowboy,
My uncle, my Dad and my brother all had/have a 336. All are experienced shooters with high standards of quality. I've never heard a complaint on the weapons and they are used regularily. Two weeks ago my brother killed over twenty coyote dogs with his 30/30 at range varying between 75 to 200 yards.
(My preference is my grandfather's 39A but that's a story for the rifle board.)
Selena
My uncle, my Dad and my brother all had/have a 336. All are experienced shooters with high standards of quality. I've never heard a complaint on the weapons and they are used regularily. Two weeks ago my brother killed over twenty coyote dogs with his 30/30 at range varying between 75 to 200 yards.
(My preference is my grandfather's 39A but that's a story for the rifle board.)
Selena
cliffy
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.35 Remington: No Contest
.35 Remington is also a LEAD-LOBBER, but a superior Lead-Lobber to the ancient .30/30 Lead Lobber, sort of like asking if a .32 Winchester SPL is superior in any way, when actually a .243 Winchester is superior to all the afforementioned calibers. Cruising a deadly bullet accurately over a course of hundreds of yards will affirm any potency doubts. This is a new century, so stop using black powder designed ancients and handload some really potent powder, since that's the original main difference along with superior SD and BC. If David Tubb could win at Camp Perry in 1993 with a .243 Winchester rifle, one should realize .30/30s are ancient history, if totally great during their time slot. Checking SHEER HORSEPOWER, one might note that .243 Winnie Poohs out-perform ANY .30/30 loads, and with less recoil flinch to affect aim. Hitting one's distant target without a 30 degree arc, aids confidence. Modern premium bullets close the gap even further: end of story. .243 Winchester with 90 grain Swift Scirocco IIs are impossible to argue against. cliffy
.35 Remington is also a LEAD-LOBBER, but a superior Lead-Lobber to the ancient .30/30 Lead Lobber, sort of like asking if a .32 Winchester SPL is superior in any way, when actually a .243 Winchester is superior to all the afforementioned calibers. Cruising a deadly bullet accurately over a course of hundreds of yards will affirm any potency doubts. This is a new century, so stop using black powder designed ancients and handload some really potent powder, since that's the original main difference along with superior SD and BC. If David Tubb could win at Camp Perry in 1993 with a .243 Winchester rifle, one should realize .30/30s are ancient history, if totally great during their time slot. Checking SHEER HORSEPOWER, one might note that .243 Winnie Poohs out-perform ANY .30/30 loads, and with less recoil flinch to affect aim. Hitting one's distant target without a 30 degree arc, aids confidence. Modern premium bullets close the gap even further: end of story. .243 Winchester with 90 grain Swift Scirocco IIs are impossible to argue against. cliffy
R.W.Dale
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PFFT! 243win is soooooo outdated 1950's
The 260rem is just like 243 only with all the suck removed. Does everything 243 does...only better
As an avid handloader I'm curious. What is this "really potent powder" you speak of
Myself I used the same can of Varget to load for 243, 30-30 and 35rem
The 260rem is just like 243 only with all the suck removed. Does everything 243 does...only better
As an avid handloader I'm curious. What is this "really potent powder" you speak of
Myself I used the same can of Varget to load for 243, 30-30 and 35rem
If you handload, the .35 has a big plus over the .30/30. You can load .357 cast pistol bullets for a nice cheap plinking/practice load. Meister bullets makes a 158 grain flat point that you can get in .358 diameter. Ten grains of Unique, and you have a nice 2/3 power load that's dirt cheap.
Jimfern
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+1 for 35 REM
I also like being able to use my pistol bullets for cheap plinking. .35 Remington brass doesn't seem to have a long case life for me. The necks split after 3-5 uses.
I would be interested to know if anyone has the same experience.
I also like being able to use my pistol bullets for cheap plinking. .35 Remington brass doesn't seem to have a long case life for me. The necks split after 3-5 uses.
I would be interested to know if anyone has the same experience.
Northslope Nimrod
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I live out west and opted for the 30-30 because I liked the ballistics better for the 30-30 for long range shots. The 30-30 really gains a lot with LeverRevelution ammo. I think (Haven't looked lately) the .35 gains less.
But if Oklahoma is like I think it is...thick trees, not open spaces, then I think the 35 Remington may be nicer, especially if you went after something bigger than deer. (Oops. Poster corrects me below..that Okla has wide open spaces) The 30-30, with good ammo, brings plent of punch for deer.
I think if I ever get another levergun, it will be a 45-70....for elk. Now that's a lead lobber. But that is overkill for deer and varmints.
But if Oklahoma is like I think it is...thick trees, not open spaces, then I think the 35 Remington may be nicer, especially if you went after something bigger than deer. (Oops. Poster corrects me below..that Okla has wide open spaces) The 30-30, with good ammo, brings plent of punch for deer.
I think if I ever get another levergun, it will be a 45-70....for elk. Now that's a lead lobber. But that is overkill for deer and varmints.
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cliffy
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My .243 Winchester brass has never known a split case
SPLIT BRASS! What's wrong with this scenario? TRIM to length after full-length re-sizing. .35 Remington brass cannot be weaker than .243 brass. I have ten case firings that still retain primers tightly, and have no splits anywhere. I also load near MAXIMUM always. Even if I only remove .0001" of brass, I always trim-to-length. Maybe the problem resides within the rifle? cliffy
SPLIT BRASS! What's wrong with this scenario? TRIM to length after full-length re-sizing. .35 Remington brass cannot be weaker than .243 brass. I have ten case firings that still retain primers tightly, and have no splits anywhere. I also load near MAXIMUM always. Even if I only remove .0001" of brass, I always trim-to-length. Maybe the problem resides within the rifle? cliffy
Shawnee
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+1 for the 30/30. I think most people underestimate it by at least 50%.
If I want cheap plinking I use a .22.
If I want cheap plinking I use a .22.
R.W.Dale
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... it's Oklahoma While not as wide open as UTAH it's still pretty much a flat open wastland, with all the decent parts spread around the edges in a thin layer
R.W.Dale
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FYI in case you didn't get the memo this thread is about 30-30 and 35rem. Nobody asked about or cares bout your 243win. Wanna pontificate bout it start your own thread and quit hijacking this one.
It would appear as though some 35 rem brass is a bit too brittle or some rifles have an overly large throat as I've thrown out a good deal of range pickup 35rem brass that had split necks. MY 336 was easy on cases but your gun may require a a stringent annealing routine for it's cases.
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