.357 Sig Sig question
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AK103K
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I have P226, P229, and P239's in the caliber. All great guns and I really like the round. Mine dont fit your #2, as they are all DA/SA, but I believe you can get them with the DAK trigger. The only SIG I know of that can be cocked and locked is the P220 SAO.
Spiff_P239
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In addition to the 3 pistols that AK103K mentioned, you can also get the SP2022 (Sig's polymer pistol) chambered in .357 Sig. The P226, P229, and P239 can be had with the DAK trigger as he mentioned. The DAK trigger is Sig's updated version of the double action only system.
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The P226 X-Five and X-Five Competition are SAO with a 1911-esque thumb safety. Unfortunately they're both offered only in 9mm or 40 S&W. However, unless they totally redesigned the bbl, I think a 40 S&W to 357 SIG bbl swap should be very easy.
http://www.sigarms.com/Products/ShowCatalogProduct.aspx?categoryid=38
The SAS - SIG Anti Snag - is a package available on the 226, 229, and 239. In addition to the DAK trigger you get a carry melt job, SIG Custom shop grips, front night sight, and stainless slide / black frame two tone. Unfotunately, these are 40 S&W only (except the 239 SAS in 40 or 9mm), but hopefully a bbl swap is all that's needed for 357 SIG capability.
Last, the 226 C.O.P.S. (40 S&W only again) looks to be a 226 SAS without the melt job at $70 lower MSRP.
http://www.sigarms.com/Products/ShowCatalogProduct.aspx?categoryid=38
The SAS - SIG Anti Snag - is a package available on the 226, 229, and 239. In addition to the DAK trigger you get a carry melt job, SIG Custom shop grips, front night sight, and stainless slide / black frame two tone. Unfotunately, these are 40 S&W only (except the 239 SAS in 40 or 9mm), but hopefully a bbl swap is all that's needed for 357 SIG capability.
Last, the 226 C.O.P.S. (40 S&W only again) looks to be a 226 SAS without the melt job at $70 lower MSRP.
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The X-fives use a completely different barrel from the standard 226, it's longer and is much thicker. Essentially it's a bull barrel. I want to say I've read of some aftermarket manufacturers making conversion barrels for the X-five, but I can't honestly remember who.
SIG does not make, or at least market a X-five .357 barrel.
cc
SIG does not make, or at least market a X-five .357 barrel.
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Ethereal
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I know it's not a Sig, but the only DA/SA pistol I know of that can be carried C&L is the H&K USP in 357sig. The softest shooting .357sig I ever experienced was the Glock31. It seemed to absorb the recoil better than a 226 with an alloy frame. I'm not sure how the steel frames do in Sig Sauers .357, but for what you asked, that's all I can vouch for.
The 239 SAS wasn't officially offered in .357 sig, but I've seen a couple that came in .357 sig from the factory. Not sure if that happened with the 226 or 229, but I suppose it's a possibility. Either way it's just a barrel change away if you have the .40.
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I love my 239 in 357. Awesome concealment piece that packs alot of heat without being abusive.
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I love the 357Sig. I have it in USPc, P229(all steel) and P229 Sport(all steel). 357 Sig in all steel feels like a 9mm. I don't know which feels better between my USPc or P229, both feel great to shoot. I think the USPc rises slightly more due to the lesser weight. USPc feel better to carry. I haven't shot my P229 Sport yet, 1k-rd case is coming sometime this week. I traded my 1st P229(regular, alloy frame) for a Limited Edition(all steel model). I believe my USPc absorbed the recoil better than my 1st P229(alloy).
I believe the alloy frame will not survive as long as the steel frame(just my opinion) with the pressure 357Sig produce. Please retort if neccessary! I don't and have never studied metallurgy, so please correct me!
Has anyone heard a rumor about the U.S. Secret Service and/or FAA/DHS Air Marshals had problems with their Sig P229 because of the 357Sig pressure. USSS Presidential Protective Detail/Division(PPD) qualify every month. Thats alot of rounds going through their sidearms.
How many rounds have your guns digested? Any signs of wear or looseness?
I believe the alloy frame will not survive as long as the steel frame(just my opinion) with the pressure 357Sig produce. Please retort if neccessary! I don't and have never studied metallurgy, so please correct me!
Has anyone heard a rumor about the U.S. Secret Service and/or FAA/DHS Air Marshals had problems with their Sig P229 because of the 357Sig pressure. USSS Presidential Protective Detail/Division(PPD) qualify every month. Thats alot of rounds going through their sidearms.
How many rounds have your guns digested? Any signs of wear or looseness?
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I've fired at least 1K through my 229 as I keep qualified with it. No problemos.
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I haven't shot one yet, but if it's anything like their .40 the .357 S&W M&P should be a sweet shooter.
I haven't read every post in great detail, so I may repeat something, but here is my direct experience:
I bought a NIB P239 DAK dual tone in 357Sig with #8 front sight. It also had a factory 40S&W barrel with it. Unfortunately I had to buy mags specifically for the 40 since the 357 mags are necked down for that cartridge. You can feed 357 ammo in the 40 mags, but not the other way around.
I also have a P229 SAS that has the DAK system and came from the factory in 40S&W. I bought it ANIB from a Sig forum member who had added a factory 357Sig barrel and front sight. The nice thing about the 229 is that mags work for both calibers. Technically you need to change the front sight when switching between calibers, because the 357 shoots lower than the 40 out of the same gun.(#6 for 40 and #8 for 357)
Either pistol handles the recoil of either 357 or 40 quite nicely.
Just make sure that the front sight is a #8 when using 357 in either the P239 or P229.
I bought a NIB P239 DAK dual tone in 357Sig with #8 front sight. It also had a factory 40S&W barrel with it. Unfortunately I had to buy mags specifically for the 40 since the 357 mags are necked down for that cartridge. You can feed 357 ammo in the 40 mags, but not the other way around.
I also have a P229 SAS that has the DAK system and came from the factory in 40S&W. I bought it ANIB from a Sig forum member who had added a factory 357Sig barrel and front sight. The nice thing about the 229 is that mags work for both calibers. Technically you need to change the front sight when switching between calibers, because the 357 shoots lower than the 40 out of the same gun.(#6 for 40 and #8 for 357)
Either pistol handles the recoil of either 357 or 40 quite nicely.
Just make sure that the front sight is a #8 when using 357 in either the P239 or P229.
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My 226 has at least 15K 357SIG rounds through it. I'd challenge anyone to find something wrong with my frame.
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Coronach said:
I strongly disliked the .357sig round out of the Sig Pro 2022. The round may be great out of some other guns, but out of this one it has significant muzzle flip and more recoil than I expected.
I got rid of it. YMMV.
Given your familiarity with the M&P, you might give that weapon a try in .357sig. I'd be curious about the results.
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Yeah, I think I might just go for a .357 barrel (and maybe spring, not sure if that's required) for my M&P. I remain somewhat unimpressed with Sig-Sauer's ergonomics for their "classic" lineup. I just bought a 225, since they're dirt cheap, and I remain underwhelmed. Decent duty guns, but I just don't get the attraction they hold for many people.
To each their own, I guess.
Thanks,
Mike
To each their own, I guess.
Thanks,
Mike
tydephan
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Coronach said:
You and I seem to be the anomaly. I have tried so hard to like the Classic Series of Sigs. But they just don't work for me. I'm still contemplating purchasing a P226 Elite, just because I have yet to own a 226. But I'm just not sold on it. Obligatory caveat: No offense to Sig owners, as I know they are good weapons. They just don't do it for me.
The only Sig I ever liked, strangely enough, was a P230. I sold it in what can only be described as a moment of temporary insanity.
I suppose we should start a support group?
Hello...my name is John...and I prefer my cheap M&P over the Sig Classic P series...
Get you a .357 barrel and let us know how it works out.
Btw...I'm freshly back from my LGS, babying my new M&P9c ($399).
I just bought a 225. Check out that thread for my thoughts. granted, it's only 200 rounds through the gun (bringin my total classic-series roundcount to about 500), so it might grow on me, but yeah. So far its a big "ehhh" for me.
I also have a P232 (the P230's kissing cousin), and LOVE it. It's the perfect gun for that caliber and role.
Mike
I also have a P232 (the P230's kissing cousin), and LOVE it. It's the perfect gun for that caliber and role.
Mike
tydephan
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Yeah I was reading through that thread earlier. Sounds like you got a deal on it. I doubt I could have passed it up either. Unfortunately, my Gander does not appear to have any.
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