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357 sig......tell me more

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Antihero, Sep 20, 2020.

  1. five.five-six

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    The round, ,357 sig, is capable of very impressive groups. This is me with my previous p229 (and much younger eyes). I know I found a good load when I’m doing this again:

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  2. Lennyjoe

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    That’s my frustration with this gun. I know it is (along with my shooting ability) but maybe it’s more than just shooting from a bench rest. I’ll keep working with it in the meantime. Thanks everyone for your inputs. Carry on.
     
  3. tbob38
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    Anybody using the Dillon carbide dies to reload their 357 Sig rounds? Any comments?
     
  4. Otto

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    I use a standard 40 S&W carbide die just for the body and a 357Sig steel sizer for the neck....no lube is required this way.
    But the nice thing about Dillon's carbide sizer is that you can transform 40 S&W brass into 357Sig (however, the neck length will be slightly shorter).
     
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  5. Lennyjoe

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    Hornady dies as well.
    That's some fancy shoot'n!
     
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  7. five.five-six

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    I shot so well with that gun I never should have sold it. Running the target back was always a pleasant surprise. A consolation, the home I put the money toward has served my family well for years now.


    Full disclosure, the distance was only 23 yards. That range had an adjacent LEO/TAC section that was 25 yards. That was on the civilian side of the range.
     
  8. tommy.duncan

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    I have a P226 and a P229 Legion in 357sig. I carry the P226 quite often.

    I have Lee dies, the Lee FCD, a 40s&w bulge buster, and a big box of 357sig brass. I haven't started loading them yet.

    I like the round. I fell in love after I shot a friends Glock in 357sig, as a matter of fact, I was waiting on my paperwork while we were still at the range. Lol
     
  9. WrongHanded
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    I keep hearing mention of this bulge buster?

    I've not found any fired cases from my guns that have bulged. Is this a Glock issue, or something else?
     
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    I'm assuming they do it to save from having the 357 SIG sizer do all the sizing. Skips the case lube process. Just my guess. I use a 40 S&W carbide sizer for that purpose.
     
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  11. Peakbagger46

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    From what I’ve read (stats) and heard from one SWAT commander back east, the Sig is the king of one shot stop rounds out of an auto loader. As a LEO that’s issued a 9mm (recently downgraded from a .40), I’d take the Sig in a heartbeat if given the choice.

    It would likely be more popular for duty use if training rounds weren’t so expensive.
     
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  12. 460Shooter

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    It's a bottlenecked cartridge, which means it is a PITA. I see no reason to care about the 357 Sig at all. Go 10mm. Heavier bullets are available, it's a smoker of a cartridge, and you would get the same capacity. The only sacrifice is the frame is larger. But if you are even averaged size, that doesn't matter.

    My P220 will push a 140 gr Extreme Penetrator 10mm from Underwood to 1500 fps from a 5" barrel. I can get 1400 fps from my 38 Super with a 124 gr bullet from my Dan Wesson PM-38, and you don't lose capacity on the bottleneck. Granted, that's one load on the 38, but still.

    I don't see what a 357 Sig does that can't be done better with a 10mm or close to as well as a 38 super.

    Sorry, I know I'm being that guy, but the longer I shoot 10mm the more I love the wide ranging utility of the cartridge. 180 gr slugs at 1250 fps are a lot of juice. 357 Sig seems extremely narrow and limited. If you have small hands I get I guess.
     
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  13. Flatbush Harry

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    The .357 Sig is ballistically equivalent to a .357 Magnum shooting similar weight bullets. Like the .357 Magnum, it gives up something the shorter the barrel from which it is propelled. I have .357 Sig barrels for my Sig 229 in .40 S&W. my SAI XD Service and my SAI XDsc in .40 S&W. I will get a .357 Sig barrel for a Polymer G27 that I am building. FWIW, I kind of like the idea of a 12-shot .357 Magnum. Since I only carry a 10mm 1911 or other full-size pistol in winter under a coat, I'd select either a SubCompact .40 S&W or .357 Sig for personal defense during other seasons. In full disclosure, I have carried a SAI XDsc in .45ACP though and feel comfortable therewith.
     
  14. Lennyjoe

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    I have a G20 but the G32 in .357 Sig conceals better than the G20. That’s my only benefit to the 32 over the 20.
     
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    You're forgiven. ;)

    If I were to suggest one of the two cartridges for someone looking to buy a new gun, I would suggest the 10mm. Because it far more versatile. However, anyone with a popular brand of pistol chambered in .40S&W, can have a. 357 Sig for the cost of a barrel. Which is actually why I shoot and carry .357 Sig. But if I had to start over, I would buy 10mm handguns over .40, .357 Sig, and .45acp.
     
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  16. Lennyjoe

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    Swapped out the factory barrel with an Alpha Wolf .357 Sig barrel and accuracy improved significantly. Now I’m gaining confidence in the pistol. More to follow.
     
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  17. Leadbutt

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    357Sig, is like the old 38Super, unloved by most, and a weapon few will use, but once you do, you may not go back
     
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  18. DT Guy

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    The best thing about .357 Sig is it's about the closest we can get to 9x23 these days, and fits in the 'small' frame Glocks that 10MM's can't.

    Larry
     
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