Ive had a person contact me with what he said is a malin 36w. Is that possible? I see several 336w's but not 36's. So anyway Ill get to see it first hand later on today but just wondering what you all thought. Thanks,,,,,,,,,,New to the board, Brian Holmes
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36w marlin?
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Marlin did make a Model 36, and I have one.
It's a full-size version of what we now call the Model 94, wherein the sliding bolt forms part of the side of the receiver. The 336, in contrast, has a cylindrical bolt riding in a round bore in the receiver.
My particular Model 36 is in .32 Special, and dates from 1949. The date of production is identified by a letter prefix to the serial number; for example, mine is D99xx. The next year will use "E", and so on. With such a low number, I suspect the numbering would start at "0001" at the beginning of each year with the new letter identifier. The "W" letter is a puzzle, because I don't think the 36 series went past about "E" or "F" dates, when the 336 replaced it in the Marlin line.
The 36 rifles are very well-made. I imagine that Marlin could either produce the round-bolt 336 less expensively, or the design was stronger, or both. Whatever, the 36 is still an extremely nice rifle, and you won't see one every time you go to the range or gunshow.
It's a full-size version of what we now call the Model 94, wherein the sliding bolt forms part of the side of the receiver. The 336, in contrast, has a cylindrical bolt riding in a round bore in the receiver.
My particular Model 36 is in .32 Special, and dates from 1949. The date of production is identified by a letter prefix to the serial number; for example, mine is D99xx. The next year will use "E", and so on. With such a low number, I suspect the numbering would start at "0001" at the beginning of each year with the new letter identifier. The "W" letter is a puzzle, because I don't think the 36 series went past about "E" or "F" dates, when the 336 replaced it in the Marlin line.
The 36 rifles are very well-made. I imagine that Marlin could either produce the round-bolt 336 less expensively, or the design was stronger, or both. Whatever, the 36 is still an extremely nice rifle, and you won't see one every time you go to the range or gunshow.
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anyone know what year they quit making 36's have a 336A rifle model made in 1954 i think?
Hope it is a 32 by the holmes i have a Winchester 94 chambered in it and i love it, its a great cast bullet gun.
Hope it is a 32 by the holmes i have a Winchester 94 chambered in it and i love it, its a great cast bullet gun.
According to an article by Glenn Fryxell (google "marlin model 36" to find it), the Model 36 was made through 1948 with the 336 coming along in '49.
This info would mean that my rifle was not made as late as I stated earlier, so I'll likely do some digging and see what I find.
The 336 was first made in .30-30 and .32, with the .35 Remington arriving a year later. Micro-groove rifling was introduced in the mid-1950s.
These older lever guns are very nice. I have an early-1950s 336 in .35, and a 1951 Winchester 64 in .32 Special as well as as my Model 36; all three are very entertaining and were bought mostly as cast-bullet rifles just as GC1982 suggests. The three rifles now have old steel aperture sights and Lyman 17 target front sights, and this improved equipment helps my old eyes a whole bunch when it comes to shooting.
This info would mean that my rifle was not made as late as I stated earlier, so I'll likely do some digging and see what I find.
The 336 was first made in .30-30 and .32, with the .35 Remington arriving a year later. Micro-groove rifling was introduced in the mid-1950s.
These older lever guns are very nice. I have an early-1950s 336 in .35, and a 1951 Winchester 64 in .32 Special as well as as my Model 36; all three are very entertaining and were bought mostly as cast-bullet rifles just as GC1982 suggests. The three rifles now have old steel aperture sights and Lyman 17 target front sights, and this improved equipment helps my old eyes a whole bunch when it comes to shooting.
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just curious bruce does marlins or winchester handle cast bullets better or is there no difference you can tell? There twist rates are different for 30 30s arent they?
When I bought the Model 36, it was mostly because of the .32's reputation as a cast-bullet cartridge. I soon found that I did NOT have what I thought I'd bought.
The standard twist for the .32 Special is 1 turn in 16". This Model 36 has 1 turn in 10", same as a standard .30-30.
The normal groove diameter for the .32 Special is +/- .321". My Marlin slugs at .318"! In discussions with the Marlin factory, they said that yes, those dimensions for twist and diameter were normal for the .32 Specials they built in the '40s. One of the gents on the Cast Boolit Board remarked that what we (I and another gent) had amounted to "fat .30-30s". Even so, the rifle shoots very well with the RCBS .32-170 bullet, and so far IMR4350 has given the most accurate results...THAT was a surprise!
Because the Marlin is so out-of-spec, I simply "had" to buy a Winchester with 'real' .32 dimensions, and along came the M64 at an opportune moment. I haven't had a chance to really wring it out yet, but already it's giving nice groups with the same load as the Marlin.
The .35 Marlin just chugs along, yielding excellent results with the RCBS 35-200 cast bullet.
The standard twist for the .32 Special is 1 turn in 16". This Model 36 has 1 turn in 10", same as a standard .30-30.
The normal groove diameter for the .32 Special is +/- .321". My Marlin slugs at .318"! In discussions with the Marlin factory, they said that yes, those dimensions for twist and diameter were normal for the .32 Specials they built in the '40s. One of the gents on the Cast Boolit Board remarked that what we (I and another gent) had amounted to "fat .30-30s". Even so, the rifle shoots very well with the RCBS .32-170 bullet, and so far IMR4350 has given the most accurate results...THAT was a surprise!
Because the Marlin is so out-of-spec, I simply "had" to buy a Winchester with 'real' .32 dimensions, and along came the M64 at an opportune moment. I haven't had a chance to really wring it out yet, but already it's giving nice groups with the same load as the Marlin.
The .35 Marlin just chugs along, yielding excellent results with the RCBS 35-200 cast bullet.
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