4" vs. 6"

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4" S&W Model 19, if you can find one used (not made anymore). I have had one since 1971 and it is one of the best 4" self defense revolvers ever made.

This is the only handgun I own that my wife will shoot, and she is very comfortable with it.

I think used ones usually run about $400. And NO I will not sell mine!

Bill
 
Thank you for all of the replies. As I stated in the OP this would be for my wife strictly for HD and that is why I ruled out anything under 4". For her my biggest concern is her being comfortable shooting a weapon that could possibly save her life and thus wanting the least amount of recoil since she it not avid shooter. We have no concerns for it to be concealable since this will never be carried. I know the weight difference between a 4" vs. 6" barrel isn't much but since the weight is in the tip, of as apposed to the butt of the gun, it would act much like a lever. If people were worried about a person taking the weapon out of their hands then why do so many people consider shotguns and rifles as a better choice for HD than handguns? So I do not consider that a viable pro or con. Given that the only advantage of a 6" barrel would be longer sight radius and a little more velocity, I believe she would be better suited with a 4" barrel. I don't think the longer sight radius in close quarters would outweigh the benefit of a better natural point of aim with a lighter barrel. Alas, all of this only matters if she feels comfortable with it, so the final decision will be hers and hers alone.

Thanks for all the help.

Shawn
 
Because a long gun is held firmly by both hands, using all your fingers, and you can clamp the stock under your arm to prevent a grabber twisting it away from you.

A handgun on the otherhand, is only held at best with three fingers of the shooting hand, and perhaps the fingers of the other hand wrapped over those.

If you get hold of the barrel and twist the gun toward the top of the hand holding the gun, you simply cannot hang on to it without getting hurt very painfully.

If you do insist on holding on, you will get your wrest twisted backward where it doesn't normall bend, and perhaps your trigger finger broken off at the first joint.

rc
 
Go with a 4-inch Ruger or Smith. The 4-inch is the perfect balance between the 2.5-inch and the 6-inch, both in pointability and weight. A 6-inch gun is a great outdoor gun, and good for hunting and can certainly be used for defense; however, a 4-inch has better pointability, which makes it better for close-in use. The 2.5-inch guns combine great pointability with concealability, but muzzleblast and loss of velocity (while not that great) are drawbacks.

Another horrible downside of modern 6-inch .357s is the underlug. For outdoor use this just adds needless weight and makes picking up on moving targets that much more difficult. S&W makes 686s without the underlug, but good luck on finding one!

Years ago I saw an amazing magazine article about a tall gorgeous blonde who captured a would-be rapist in her apartment and held him for police. The magazine cover featured her with her 6-inch stainless Ruger Security-Six partially hidden behind a darkened door. Not only did she catch the SOB (who had a long criminal record), she made him call the police and give them the address! Inside were more photos, and I kept it for years. (The Security-Six in many ways was the best .357 ever made, in my opinion. In a 6-inch configuration it had an almost perfect size and weight. The last thing it needed was an underlug or a vent!)

Ruger and S&W are still the only games in town when buying revolvers. I have a 6-inch 686 that's a real beauty, but the underlug makes it a less-than-ideal defensive gun for the home -- it's just too heavy, especially for a woman. The 4-incher also is a tad hefty, but is certainly managable; the 681 is also sweet. For years I considered the S&W 13 to be the "perfect" home revolver. It was inexpensive, exceptionally well made, powerful and endearing. If S&W still made it, I would still recommend it.

Taurus may be an okay gun, but I'd pay extra for a Ruger. Of all the Tauruses I've owned, I've never kept any of them. Rugers are strong and S&Ws are reliable and accurate. Just saying....
 
The sight radius shouldn't be a concern if the gun will only be used for HD. Of course if she doesn't know how to use sights and know trigger control she should learn those things first. In a situation you need that gun sights will likely not get used. What I am saying is teach her to point shoot. Many people like using the front sight for point shooting. If you can afford it and she needs to learn to shoot I'd recommend a .22. There's little recoil or blast so concentrating on what she needs to will be easy. Ammo is also cheap. It takes a lot of practice to be any good with a handgun at all. You can't get too good.
 
I originally was looking at the Taurus 66 because of the price and I liked the idea of having 7 shots, but after seeing the replies here and talking to a few people at the range today I am thinking that perhaps the Ruger GP100 could be a better option. Using Buds as a pricing template, the Taurus is $405 and the Ruger is $515, so $110 difference is not enough considering what this tool is intended for. The gun store close to me also has a GP100 she can use at the range. So I guess it's time to shut up and take her to the range and see what she likes.

Thanks again for all the help gentlemen.

Shawn
 
Its not the size, its how you use it.

I personally prefer 4" for an all purpose revolver because it balances better. Something to ponder, the 4" barrel gives a BG less to grab onto in the event he gets up close. Would not make that a major consideration, but you never know.

Ive also had really good luck with Taurus as well.

FWIW my wife now carries a 4" K Frame S&W w/ .38 +p and she is a smaller lady. She has a 3" J frame for a while but switched.

Take a look at this thread and see the size difference:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=498296
 
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A K frame S&W, 3-4"--a model 65 would be great.

Put Crimson Trace grips on them-no worry about sight picture, which she won't be able to see anyway in a dark room. Put the laser beam on the target and go. Plus, the grips are a great size for small hands.

Then practice at the range and run drills in the house. Her second line of protection is a cell phone with 911 on speed dial that is always with her..and charged.

Of course, get great locks on the house. And, an alarm system.Your true first line of defense is a home that someone doesn't want to try to break into.

Getting a dog that barks loudly when it hears someone near the house is a good idea as well!

The very best handgun is a shotgun.
 
Getting a dog that barks loudly when it hears someone near the house is a good idea as well!

We have two dogs and four cats. Before any of you say, "what the hell is a cat going to do?" have you ever tried walking through a house with cats in it in the dark??? They will trip you every time guaranteed!!! Been there, done that.:cuss:

The very best handgun is a shotgun.

I agree, but I have probably a less than zero chance of that happening.

Shawn
 
I originally was looking at the Taurus 66 because of the price and I liked the idea of having 7 shots, but after seeing the replies here and talking to a few people at the range today I am thinking that perhaps the Ruger GP100 could be a better option.
While there's nothing wrong with a Ruger GP100 it may not be to your wife's liking. If that happens the S&W M686+ (the plus being +1 round) comes in a 7 round model. You can probably find a good used M686+ for a good price. Also, the S&W M619 and M620 are 7 round .357 Magnum revolvers with a half under-lug so they feel and shoot more like a K frame revolver. They aren't very popular so you might be able to find a good one for not much cash. I bought a hardly used M619 for only $350.

Here is the M619:

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Here is the M686: (it no longer wears those BIG grips)

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We have two dogs and four cats. Before any of you say, "what the hell is a cat going to do?" have you ever tried walking through a house with cats in it in the dark??? They will trip you every time guaranteed!!! Been there, done that.

Only if the cat recognizes you and thinks you're going to feed it or let it out or play with it or something like that... :D

No one seems to have talked about the recoil issue yet so I'll chime in. Next to a .22 the .38Spl has about the nicest and softest recoil of all the handguns I've shot. It even SOUNDS softer than many other center fire pistols and revolvers thanks to the usually subsonic rounds from it as long as you choose the heavier bullet options. If she ever played any sports such as tennis or baseball the recoil from a .38Spl isn't much, if any, worse on the hand then the impact of the ball on a racket or bat.

Mind you the noise flash and fact that she is shooting a real live GUN may put her off if she is a little nervous about all of it. In that case some time with a .22 may help a lot. And .22's are a lot of fun in their own right if you make a bit of a game of it by shooting different types of targets or making up your own targets that have to be shot in a specific order or similar. BINGO anyone? :D

Of course being mentally prepared to shoot at something other than paper is a whole other issue. THAT one is up to you and her.
 
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