40 cal S&W reloading data

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hi...wondered if anyone had some good reloading data for a 165gr rnfp copper plated bullet....hoping to use my titegroup powder....thx
 
My book shows 5.0-5.4grains of titegroup for a 165grn Speer tmj/gd-hp.

170grain Hornady XTP takes 4.6-5.0.

I haven't loaded these, just what my book shows for that powder. Those loads are for FMJ's not plated bullets as well.
 
My personal favorite is 4.6gr of Bullseye. Makes for a very light-recoiling and yet accurate round. Being that TG is right below Bullseye on the burn rate chart, I'd recommend starting right around 4.6gr and see how it does.
 
Just remember Titegroup is a fast powder that's known for pressure spikes, and 40s&w is a high pressure round. I would start at the minimum, and approach mid range slowly. I would stay away from the max load. I used TG for a while in my 40s&w match gun, but stopped using it after seeing a M&P 40, and G22 KB a couple years ago. It performed very well, but WST performed just as well without the spikes.
 
Just remember Titegroup is a fast powder that's known for pressure spikes, and 40s&w is a high pressure round. I would start at the minimum, and approach mid range slowly. I would stay away from the max load. I used TG for a while in my 40s&w match gun, but stopped using it after seeing a M&P 40, and G22 KB a couple years ago. It performed very well, but WST performed just as well without the spikes.


Sorry for the hijack...
Do you have any loads for WST with a 180grain lead bullet?
 
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Originally Posted by gahunter12
Just remember Titegroup is a fast powder that's known for pressure spikes, and 40s&w is a high pressure round. I would start at the minimum, and approach mid range slowly. I would stay away from the max load. I used TG for a while in my 40s&w match gun, but stopped using it after seeing a M&P 40, and G22 KB a couple years ago. It performed very well, but WST performed just as well without the spikes.

Sorry for the hijack...
Do you have any loads for WST with a 180grain lead bullet?

No sir. I picked up some 180gr lead bullets about 3 years ago with plans to use them for practice. I had a heck of a time finding data, but didn't fell safe with the bullet being seated so deep on the 180gr lead bullets. The bullet profile was different so I had to seat them .027" deeper to keep them off the lands. I load 3.8 gr of WST behind 180gr Xtreme RSFP for a PF of 135. It's a very nice shooting round for IDPA.
 
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When I was using titegroup in .40, it was a 165 grain xtreme plated flat nose with 4.6 grains at 1.130.
 
quiknot said:
40 S&W 165gr rnfp copper plated bullet ... titegroup powder.
You can reference the load data for Berry's plated TCFP bullet listed under BERB - http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
165 gr BERB FP Titegroup OAL 1.125" Start 4.5 gr (960 fps) 24,300 PSI - Max 5.1 gr (1060 fps) 31,800 PSI
While 1.125" will work with both Berry's RNFP/TCFP bullets in most pistols, if you are loading for Glocks, barrels will accommodate longer OAL out to 1.149" so use the longest OAL that works for your pistol/barrel.
 
My personal favorite is 4.6gr of Bullseye. Makes for a very light-recoiling and yet accurate round. Being that TG is right below Bullseye on the burn rate chart, I'd recommend starting right around 4.6gr and see how it does.

I just wanted to correct this in case someone comes across it in the future. A powder's proximity to another on a burn rate chart does NOT IN ANY WAY mean that their charge weights correlate. This advice applied to other powders can be flat out dangerous. It only works here by pure chance.
 
I meant to post earlier, I have used title group with 165gr plated RNFP with both trainers and berry's. When testing I went from 4.6gr - 5.1 and settled on 5.1.

I nolonger use this power for the 40 S&W , I have switched to HS6 and love it.
 
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