.40 reload data.

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I don't care for Lone Wolf barrels ... made in Russia .
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As far as I know, Lone Wolf Distribution has their barrels made in South Korea. If that's not true, someone let us know.


Too tight of a chamber ... and very cheap workmanship
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Tight yes.

"... very cheap workmanship"? I think many users of Lone Wolf barrels would disagree. I also use KKM barrels for my Glocks and after side-by-side comparison, I am keeping all of my Lone Wolf barrels - But, that's my opinion only. :)

I guess I could do a new comparison thread on Lone Wolf vs KKM barrels but with respect to KKM owners, I won't.
 
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When I had a Witness Elite Match in .40 my favorite load was a Zero 165 Gr JHP @ 1.135 OAL over 6.1 Grs Universal.

This OAL may be too long for some chambers or magazines, and 6.1 Grs is over some sources data, so approach it with caution.

I no longer have that gun, but my sons bought .40s a few months ago and I have experimented with Blue Dot and Longshot with an X-Treme 180 Gr HP, pushing them to around 950/975 FPS.

When the .40 S&W first came out a couple of different gun writers wrote about how the fast powders did not give the best accuracy with it, and that medium speed powders were needed.

In my limited experience with the fourty I have found that, for me and what I tried, it was easier to get a good load with a medium speed powder than a fast one. The fast ones just did not seem as consistent. YMMV
 
I agree. My favorite powder for full power 40S&W loads is with WSF.

I sympathize with reloaders struggling to find popular powders now. Hopefully the shortage will improve so we can all load with powders of our choice.
 
Wow 16lbs of HP38:D
Wish I had the selection of powders you have coonan1911,
everyone is making me jealous!:)
 
Dudedog, I am in the central valley (within driving distance to San Joaquin Valley).

PM me and perhaps I can "pay it forward" some reloading components to you (like HP-38). ;)
 
OK Walkalong be cruel! So where is the pic so I can go out in the backyward and :cuss:
:neener:
 
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this in the post above is a link to it. Here is an updated pic. I wish I still had some HS-6 to try in .40 again with the 180s. Gotta run off to work now. They broke the tube system again, and they are "too cold" on post partum. :)
 

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And thanks BDS for the pictures of powder in my other thread.
I should have added you to my thanks sexybeast/walkalong as well. An oversight on my part...getting senile
(It's all downhill after 50:))
My LGS sold the Red Dot before I could try it to get an idea of how it/Promo might work for me and was considering ordering 8lbs of Promo but now it's hard to find also.
 
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Dudedog wrote:
Wow 16lbs of HP38
Wish I had the selection of powders you have coonan1911,
everyone is making me jealous!
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Don't be too jealous, I ordered powder and primers in July. 5 month wait.
 
Hey All.
Have taken notes on all info supplied by members which i am finding real helpful and have come across a lot of the problems that you have stated in your comments on powder weights x 140g bullet and the lone wolf barrels and the ,40 cal case problems.
A lot of the problems i came across last night whilst loading 100 x rounds of .40 cal concerning tightness in l/wolf barrel and now after reading more comments what i need to do. I really enjoy shooting the .40 but they are a bugger of a round to get right when reloading. The powders i mention last comment were purchased back in the days of plenty availability. As you say the good old days when you could just drop down to your local sporting retailer and buy what you like.
Regards
coonan1911
 
Thank you for a very comprehensive comment for the lone wolf barrel and the loads + the problems that arise with this caliber . Have taken note your info re- sizing and drop in system check plus lee bugle buster which i use.
It is very interesting to take note of others who load and have been doing it far longer and had so much experience where your rights of your 2nd amendments in your country to own any type of weapon and to hand it down to your children. As we here have NO rights unless you are a club member and you have to have 6x shoots a year per caliber of firearm like .22lr / 9mm/ 38& 357mag - .45acp / 44mag silhouette that if your club is sanction by firearms branch. .40 / .357 sig to hold your firearms license unless your in security and you meet all requirements by the security industry.
We the sport shooters and hunting sport are so regulated here it unbelievable .
All i can say appreciate all what you have got there as if you ever get down under and go to a sporting and ammo retailer shop you will see what i mean.
Regards
coonan1911
 
Have taken notes on all info supplied by members which i am finding real helpful and have come across a lot of the problems that you have stated in your comments on powder weights x 140g bullet and the lone wolf barrels and the ,40 cal case problems.
A lot of the problems i came across last night whilst loading 100 x rounds of .40 cal concerning tightness in l/wolf barrel and now after reading more comments what i need to do. I really enjoy shooting the .40 but they are a bugger of a round to get right when reloading. The powders i mention last comment were purchased back in the days of plenty availability. As you say the good old days when you could just drop down to your local sporting retailer and buy what you like.
Regards
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I guess everyone has different results. For myself the 40 is the easiest round to reload hands down. Much easier accuracy wise than 9mm.
If you ditched the Lone Wolf barrel you would have better results. Why are you using an aftermarket? Or is it a conversion? Many of the people I know that bought them either sold them and bought Storm Lake or had to send them somewhere to be fixed. If you reload they are not popular. Stock Glock barrels are the best!
 
I got them at a good price at the time plus couple the club members had them and i tried one of there which seem to work OK.
I got to say we were using factory ammo and it function really well.
And yes it a lone wolf conversion in Glock 35 style and barrel is ported.
I am sure i will keep at it with reloads and see how it preforms .
There is a big deference in a Glock standard barrel as the reload round is sloppy in the chamber where the lone wolf is tight.
I will let you know what happens with it once i get it at the range and put some rounds through it.
Regards
coonan1911
 
coonan1911 said:
It is very interesting to take note of others who load and have been doing it far longer and had so much experience where your rights of your 2nd amendments in your country to own any type of weapon and to hand it down to your children. As we here have NO rights unless you are a club member and you have to have 6x shoots a year per caliber of firearm like .22lr / 9mm/ 38& 357mag - .45acp / 44mag silhouette that if your club is sanction by firearms branch. .40 / .357 sig to hold your firearms license unless your in security and you meet all requirements by the security industry.

We the sport shooters and hunting sport are so regulated here it unbelievable .
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I am sure many here in the USA sympathize with firearms restrictions in Australia but I am glad you still get to experience gun ownership and enjoy the sport of match shooting allowed by the exceptions to the restrictions.

Thank you for a very comprehensive comment for the lone wolf barrel and the loads + the problems that arise with this caliber. Have taken note your info re- sizing and drop in system check plus lee bugle buster which i use.

There is a big deference in a Glock standard barrel as the reload round is sloppy in the chamber where the lone wolf is tight.
I will let you know what happens with it once i get it at the range and put some rounds through it.
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You are very welcome.

It is often better to learn from others' mistakes than making your own (and believe me we all made plenty of mistakes when we all started learning to reload - those stories are listed on many threads :D). And public forums like "The High Road" exist to share the experiences with others so they don't have to make the same mistakes yet benefit by attaining reloading success from the start. Unlike some other forums, I have found THR to be more fair and objective in regards to reloading data, reloading practice, reloading components and equipment use. I have found Staff/Administrators/Moderators on this forum tend to be more "High Road" than other forums. ;)

Glad you joined THR (especially from faraway Australia) and we look forward to you sharing your reloading progress with us.

:):):)
 
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It is off thread but I can understand your frustration with the gun laws you have to deal with. I would imagine that there like here "gun control" does not prevent criminals from obtaining firearms. I am in the US in California and we have an approved handgun list. I don't have an exact count but there are maybe 200 handguns on this list out of the 1000s currently being produced. The state has decided for example that a Springfield XD in green is a different gun than one in black and must be tested separately, just stupid. In general the liberals here are antigun. They like to use the argument that "gun control" will prevent crime, IMO a completely distorted view. None of the gun laws on the books prevented some slime balls from kidnapping me and shooting me years ago. If my employer at the time allowed employees to carry that might have. (might not and it could have turned out worse, but as it was I barely escaped with my life). I feel people here need to support the NRA and be active or soon the US will have more gun laws like Australia.
 
Hi All
Just a quick response about our Politicians we have the Liberals / Labor / and the greens who hate all gun owners and if they ever get into power in this country we all would be doom as they would legislate full on GUN Control to zero. The other two parties won't backus either. The Liberal Party brought the original GUN BUYBACK last time they were in for 4 years and now we have got them again and we are just waiting to see the GUN CONTROL organization start to raise there ugly head again and start campaign and lobbying the government for more gun control.
Regards
coonan1911
 
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