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I have a few 410s, but my favorite is an Ithica. I can't remember the model, but it's a single shot breakover. The neat thing about it is that to break it over, it has a lever like a winchester 30-30 as opposed to something next to the hammer. You just pull the lever and the barrels falls down
 
I too got head over heels into.410 with a Yildiz o/u. I made a copy of a Lee loader, a have two Mec's awaiting conversion to .410 and 28ga.

Due to high cost of shot, I don't reload 20 or 12 ga any more. Heck, I'm using .45colt brass to load shot loads for my .410. 0.4oz of #6's over 5gr of Bullseye kills the heck out of squirrels and crows in the yard... ( I make my own wads from cardboard).
 
I had a Noble .410 autoloader some years back, bought it from the shop I worked at for a good price. It was a fun little Trap gun for 16 yard shooting. Had visions of keeping it for the son that was 1 year old when I bought it, but eventually had to sell it and most of my other guns at the time to keep the kid fed and warm. I did buy him a 20 ga. 870 Express when he was ready, and he bought himself a 12 ga. 870 Wingmaster soon after turning 18. I did give him a .410 eventually; an old, old H&R the shop gave me as a parts gun. I had to find the metal and make the wood for a forearm. He started using it out at his grandparent's farm for 'trapping' (AKA 'farting around in the woods'), so I just gave it to him.

I still have one .410: a SxS Cobray .45LC/.410 'derringer. Fun range toy. :)
 
tdstout said:
I have a few 410s, but my favorite is an Ithica. I can't remember the model, but it's a single shot breakover. The neat thing about it is that to break it over, it has a lever like a winchester 30-30 as opposed to something next to the hammer. You just pull the lever and the barrels falls down
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That is an Ithaca Model 66 "SuperSingle"
I had one in 12 gauge many years ago, one of my very first shotguns.
It was brutal, even with light trap loads.
 
I was just looking through an old Dixie Gun Works catalog for the factoids in the back (BTW I once stopped at the DGW gun booth at a national show and gave one of the ladies that extra dollar they ask for if you liked the catalog. Got some astounded looks and some laughs)

I saw the side bar about his two boys as early teens reloading for their .410 with BP and newspaper for wads. I keep meaning to try that.

I also recently found a couple of .444 Marlin cases in the range junk bucket....

Hmmmm.

-kBob
 
I keep a 37 Winchester hanging over the back door for those pesky gophers we get in the yard. My wife shot one with it a couple days ago ( not confirmed but I hope she hit it). My next door neighbor uses an 870 for similar purposes the next neighbor down the road uses a 3 1/2 inch 12 guage for it, and the next neighbor down the road uses a 30/30....go figure...
 
I love my 410 shotguns. I've owned my Mossberg 500 since 1986 and never had any problems with it. I also have an old Mossberg bolt action, NEF single and a Turkish O/U.

I've been reloading 410 since 1996. I mostly reload 3 inch shells using Claybuster wads, Winchester primers, and Hodgdon H110 powder. I found that 5 pellets of 00 buck is the exact same weight as 11/16 oz of shot. The five pellets fit perfect in a 3 inch hul and are very accurate out of my Mossberg 500.
 
It starts at gun shows with $40 shotguns with broken wrists.

Get some clear epoxy and fix them.

Soon you have a lot of 410s.

But they make great presents.

I can only see two of them now.
 
This thread is potentially bad news, at least for me.

After reading through it, I spent an hour and a half yesterday scouring the InterWeb for deals on my first new or used .410 shotgun!

My wife thinks you guys are a bad influence ...
 
Thanks for the link Sam1911. That's good stuff.
Played with quite a few 410 loads last Saturday. Winchester PDX and Remington HD 000 buck is stought. Even tried them in a Taurus judge.... No thank you! My "worked up" 000 buck was in the ballpark but not as tight a pattern. Herters 000 buck was very weak. I think if you shot it at anything other than paper the shot might bounce off the target.
Tried some 3" (federal ?) "handgun" ammo (too long for the judge cylinder) in the Mossberg also. 3" shells are a PITA to load but cycles fine. I really like that little gun.
 
I bought a Rossi "Matched Pair" .22/.410 with the idea that I'd like the .410 and my daughter would like the .22. While she shoots the .22, the .410 is quickly becoming the gun I spend most of the time in the woods with. It makes a great little rabbit gun.
 
My first gun was a single barrel H&R 98 .410. Still have it, and I bought a couple boxes of 2.5" Winchester shells from Midway a couple weeks ago when they were on sale specifically to shoot it some next time I have a chance.
 
.410
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Based on the experience I had over the TG holidays, a .410 should not be a problem for youths, they have quick reactions on their side which enable them (with good training) to get on target quickly that overcome the range limits of the .410.

I have a 1100 and a Yildiz sxs in .410.

My 17yo niece out shot us all with the yildiz on her first experience with skeet. She is not allowed to shoot with us anymore...
:)
 
My favorite is a double custom made on order from Harden and Knight back in the 60s. Side by side, 27" barrels, m and f, selective trigger and electors. Think it was about $250. Little brother wrote them about 1980 to get a price on a duplicate and iirc it was about $1500. Dad orders the original for a guy who later traded it back for a Contender and a couple barrels. When dad got sick he gave it to little brother and me to share. I "inherited" brothers half in '09. One of my boys will get it next.
Great shooter and fits me well.
Have a 311 which feels like a 2X 4.
 
tdstout said:
I have a few 410s, but my favorite is an Ithica. I can't remember the model, but it's a single shot breakover. The neat thing about it is that to break it over, it has a lever like a winchester 30-30 as opposed to something next to the hammer. You just pull the lever and the barrels falls down
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That is a M-66 Super Single by Ithaca. I had mine since my 7th birthday and I turn 50 this coming Sunday.
 
Since the OP I just hit the 500 mark for reloads on the mec jr. Starting to cull shells now so I'm slowly stocking up on factory AAs for for the next reloading cycle of shells.
Currently using H110 ilo 296. Powder goes fast. Tried LIL gun but it's not my 1st choice. It will do in a pinch.
Definitely on the lookout for another 410. Most are either higher end or super econo offerings. There's not much in the middle but the Yildiz SxS is a good bet but maybe not so good for volume shooting. For one thing it gets crazy hot after about 15 rounds. can't find the o/u with 28" barrels for nothing.
The little mossberg is a hammer on clays but mine has ejection issues I'm still trying to work through. If not for that it would be my favorite hands down.
 
There is officially no hope for me! I picked up a Mossberg Field All-Purpose 500 in .410 bore from my local Wally World, for $209 + tax. How could I resist? It comes with a 24-inch vent-rib barrel with a fixed, Full choke. I'm thinking this will make a great security shotgun that my wife won't be afraid to fire. I checked with Mossberg, and an 18.5-inch barrel is about $56 + shipping. I hope to add one after the holidays. :)

Getting started with .410 can be cheap! I have a .410 adapter for my 20ga. single shot. Patterns and penetration are comparable to what I've gotten with the Yildiz .410. It's just $25 from Short Lane.

Lee Loaders are out of sight in price on eBay, if you find one. I found instructions for a homemade .410 loader: http://beforeitsnews.com/self-sufficiency/2013/10/homemade-410-reloading-kit-2463934.html. I liked it enough to buy their book, which includes similar instructions for a homemade 12ga. loader. They also introduced me to GaugeMate, where I hope to buy a rifled .22LR adapter for the .410. It's chamber length, but it would make a good training tool. I like the idea of the GaugeMate version better than the smoothbore that Short Lane offers. Not cheap, but it could be useful.

As a security shotgun, the 500 in .410 might be the first shotgun I've tried that could work well with a folding stock. I have a Butler Creek that I tried (didn't like) on my 20ga, primarily because of he combination of the recoil of the light gun and the angle of the cheekpiece of the stock. I might be able to adapt it to the .410. With an 18.5-inch barrel and a folding stock, it could be fairly slim, short, and light -- yet with modest recoil -- and might be my ideal idea of a trunk gun. We'll see.

As you can see, there really is no hope for me. The next step is handloading for the .410, if I can track down some suitable powder...

All my best,
Bob
 
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