C-grunt
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On the serious side, I fired the 500 once and it was all I needed. I can say I shot it now and thats fine with me. Truthfully my friends 629 .44 mag with full house 240 grns was the upper end of my comfort.
44 mag = pea shooter
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Hahaha, good thread...
I took three of my college friends from NY to the range over the Memorial Day weekend to do a little shooting because none of them had ever fired (or even held) a handgun, although they'd all had some kind of smallbore rifle experience at some point, BSA, camp, NRA...
There was a request to shoot my .50 Desert Eagle, and I lied and pretended I had no ammo and couldn't find any. I brought my 9mm High Power, four inch S&W model 28, Colt Combat Elite .45ACP, and a 7.5 Ruger Blackhawk in .44 mag, along with a Ruger MK I. After a safety lecture and familiarization, we were off to the range.
Two of the three are now madly in love with the Browning Hi Power. 150 rounds was gone in an hour and a half. They went through about the same number of rounds in the 1911, but scores were lower. The 28 got through about a 50 round box and a half, and the .44 saw about 62 rounds, mostly because I was shooting it much of the time. My guys seemed to find that it wasn't so hard to hit the target, but they did find the recoil excessive for a first timer. The Ruger MK I went through 250 or so, mostly because it's a blast, even though it may not be a precision instrument.
A lady a few points down from me had brought a bunch of friends and was doing pretty much the same thing, though the group had all S&W's... a 66, what looked like a 36, and one of the four inch .500's. Someone let off a cylinder full and I could feel it in my teeth five points to the right. Then they put it away.
I'm not sure what purpose this anecdote has, except that I guess none of them will ever watch a Dirty Harry movie the same way again. Everyone says that they want a try with some kind of magnum, but it's only fun to miss for a minute... bring enough 9mm's and .22 LR's to go around if you're just introducing the friends what's out there. The big stuff takes the budget and dedication for some serious practice just to get even with what a complete novice can do with an N frame .357 Magnum. It's a heck of a Kaboom that comes off those .500's.
I took three of my college friends from NY to the range over the Memorial Day weekend to do a little shooting because none of them had ever fired (or even held) a handgun, although they'd all had some kind of smallbore rifle experience at some point, BSA, camp, NRA...
There was a request to shoot my .50 Desert Eagle, and I lied and pretended I had no ammo and couldn't find any. I brought my 9mm High Power, four inch S&W model 28, Colt Combat Elite .45ACP, and a 7.5 Ruger Blackhawk in .44 mag, along with a Ruger MK I. After a safety lecture and familiarization, we were off to the range.
Two of the three are now madly in love with the Browning Hi Power. 150 rounds was gone in an hour and a half. They went through about the same number of rounds in the 1911, but scores were lower. The 28 got through about a 50 round box and a half, and the .44 saw about 62 rounds, mostly because I was shooting it much of the time. My guys seemed to find that it wasn't so hard to hit the target, but they did find the recoil excessive for a first timer. The Ruger MK I went through 250 or so, mostly because it's a blast, even though it may not be a precision instrument.
A lady a few points down from me had brought a bunch of friends and was doing pretty much the same thing, though the group had all S&W's... a 66, what looked like a 36, and one of the four inch .500's. Someone let off a cylinder full and I could feel it in my teeth five points to the right. Then they put it away.
I'm not sure what purpose this anecdote has, except that I guess none of them will ever watch a Dirty Harry movie the same way again. Everyone says that they want a try with some kind of magnum, but it's only fun to miss for a minute... bring enough 9mm's and .22 LR's to go around if you're just introducing the friends what's out there. The big stuff takes the budget and dedication for some serious practice just to get even with what a complete novice can do with an N frame .357 Magnum. It's a heck of a Kaboom that comes off those .500's.
coelacanth
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I've actually become quite fond of my re-engineered...
Lemat revolver. It took some doing but the 20mm cannon rounds in the cylinder are usually plenty. If I REALLY need to thump something I can use the 37mm grenade in the lower barrel.
Lemat revolver. It took some doing but the 20mm cannon rounds in the cylinder are usually plenty. If I REALLY need to thump something I can use the 37mm grenade in the lower barrel.
Dravur
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Well, in Montana
We use only the largest guns as the Gophers here are the size of bull Elk in the other 48 states and the Elk? well, they come in 3 sizes; huge, darned huge and OH MY GOSH.
We only have 3 seasons, June, July and Winter.
We have tough men, tougher women and tough sheep.
My hunting rifle is a B-52 bomber I took the wings off and added a stock. It fires cruise missiles. I reload with Nosler Nuclear Tips and use 65000 grains of unique.
Don't get me started about my duck gun..... Took me a long time to fit that subway tunnel to a stock.
We use only the largest guns as the Gophers here are the size of bull Elk in the other 48 states and the Elk? well, they come in 3 sizes; huge, darned huge and OH MY GOSH.
We only have 3 seasons, June, July and Winter.
We have tough men, tougher women and tough sheep.
My hunting rifle is a B-52 bomber I took the wings off and added a stock. It fires cruise missiles. I reload with Nosler Nuclear Tips and use 65000 grains of unique.
Don't get me started about my duck gun..... Took me a long time to fit that subway tunnel to a stock.
JesseL
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I've got someone that wants to take a look at those cute little miniature elk you've got in Montana:
I heard they had to use a Davy Crockett to take this fella down. After a solid hit in the shoulder they still had to track him 600 miles for a coup de grace from an AC-47.
I heard they had to use a Davy Crockett to take this fella down. After a solid hit in the shoulder they still had to track him 600 miles for a coup de grace from an AC-47.
Dravur
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Them
Boone and Crocket Elk ain't too bad. But let me tell you about the Elk in MT. Boone and Crocket once came to MT but after fainting so many times at the size of our elk, they just shook their heads and left, never to be seen again. Im not sure what would have happened if we had shown em some big ones.
I shot an elk up in the Beartooth flatlands..... Well, it fell down and we could not move it, so they put a highway over it and called it the Beartooth Mountains. You can still drive over it from Red Lodge to Cooke City/Gardner.
True Story
Isn't this the same state where they store old people? How tough could it be? Golfing and retirement communities? please...
You don't retire to Montana.....Montana retires you!
Boone and Crocket Elk ain't too bad. But let me tell you about the Elk in MT. Boone and Crocket once came to MT but after fainting so many times at the size of our elk, they just shook their heads and left, never to be seen again. Im not sure what would have happened if we had shown em some big ones.
I shot an elk up in the Beartooth flatlands..... Well, it fell down and we could not move it, so they put a highway over it and called it the Beartooth Mountains. You can still drive over it from Red Lodge to Cooke City/Gardner.
True Story
Isn't this the same state where they store old people? How tough could it be? Golfing and retirement communities? please...
You don't retire to Montana.....Montana retires you!
Vern Humphrey
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Tell the truth now, it wasn't you that shot that elk, it was me.
I remember it was a mere disturbance in the atmosphere. Then birds can flying past. Then rabbits and squirrels and little critters. Finally lions and grizzley bears came past me, fleeing in sheer terror. When that elk stepped out of the dark timber, his hooves struck sparks from the bare granite. Smoke gushed from his nostrils, and lightning played around the tines of his antlers.
A lesser man would have fainted dead away -- but I barely soiled my underwear.
The 225 grain Nosler Partition Jacket from Bigfoot Wallace, my custom '03 in .35 Brown-Whelen went plumb through him and disappeared downrange. It finally impacted in Oregon, and they claim the crater is still radioactive.
Dravur
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Well vern...
That's a might good story, but when we shoot an elk, the bullet stays in the animal. It's only fair and it keeps us from destroying whole cities.
I was there on that fateful day when the Beartooth Mountains were created. I brought my trusty .45-70 and my dog. The dog was a cross between a Wolf, a Badger, the tasmanian devil and satan hisself. We named him Mr Fluffy. I remember when we shot that bull elk. The earth cried for 3 days. It was only fair to leave it there and let it become the mountains.
The dog and I wandered off, back to Belgrade and a nice home cooked meal. Mr Fluffy ate a couple cows and burped up a 1976 Pacer. Not sure where he got that car.
Someday Ill tell you about carving out Fort Peck reservoir.
That's a might good story, but when we shoot an elk, the bullet stays in the animal. It's only fair and it keeps us from destroying whole cities.
I was there on that fateful day when the Beartooth Mountains were created. I brought my trusty .45-70 and my dog. The dog was a cross between a Wolf, a Badger, the tasmanian devil and satan hisself. We named him Mr Fluffy. I remember when we shot that bull elk. The earth cried for 3 days. It was only fair to leave it there and let it become the mountains.
The dog and I wandered off, back to Belgrade and a nice home cooked meal. Mr Fluffy ate a couple cows and burped up a 1976 Pacer. Not sure where he got that car.
Someday Ill tell you about carving out Fort Peck reservoir.
Vern Humphrey
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This was Portland I hit -- no loss.
Quoheleth
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My money is on the rifle.
I had a special pistol made to order for large south-east Texas game. You know, feral squirrels and rabbits. I call it the .17-50 Brownstripe, a .17 caliber Barnes X-Bullet mounted atop 1/4 pound of Hercules, stomped into a necked-down .50 MG case. Please note: this is a max load. The pistol is a recoil-operated semi-automatic, using a Dodge Power Wagon (with Cummins package) strut as its spring. The pistol is brought into battery using the small come-along that comes with the rifle. An electric winch is a popular accessory. A small wind-operated turbine strategically placed 20' from the barrel produces enough energy per shot to power my air conditioner for 12-14 hours. The effective range of this sippity-do-dah round is about 15 feet. Since it hits Mach 2 about 10 feet from the barrel, the thin bullet skin evaporates shortly thereafter and the bullet disintegrates almost immediately after hitting the paper at 15 feet. While not tremendously effective at long range, its effect on the shooter will be remembered into eternity by its name, the Brownstripe.
You Montannians think you got big 'uns. Why, the doc told me I should be able to use my shooting arm again in another ten days to two weeks. Then I'll tell you about my rifle, the lever-action .22-.30-.470 (a multi-step neckdown round from .470 to .30 to .22).
Remember...preachers never lie
Quoheleth
TehK1w1
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Quoheleth
So that's the sound I heard the other day-kinda like a .22 round being shot out of a 20mm cannon
So that's the sound I heard the other day-kinda like a .22 round being shot out of a 20mm cannon
RevolvingCylinder
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I carry light. Just a trimmed-down M79 for me. I only get one shot of 40mm but isn't it all in the shot placement?
SoCalShooter
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Between Davur and Vern Humphrey I could hardly breathe whilst trying to read about beartooth mountain. Thank you.
Nightcrawler
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Pfft. My carry revolver is a six-shot 40mm grenade launcher, made in Russia. I carry a mix of HE, buckshot, and white phosphorous rounds, depending on where I'm going.
Use enough gun.
Vern, you almost made me spew a mouthful of Boo-Koo energy drink all over the screen of this computer (I'm at work, so that'd be bad). I'm so stealing that quote.
Use enough gun.
Vern, you almost made me spew a mouthful of Boo-Koo energy drink all over the screen of this computer (I'm at work, so that'd be bad). I'm so stealing that quote.
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Stainz
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I have lately been enjoying plinking away with my 4" SP101 in .32 H&RM - with 115gr 730fps LRNFP's. When a friend reminded me what a wimp I had become, once having had a .454 SRH - and shooting it for years with hot rounds, I reminded him that .32 S&WL was a long time police round. The great Teddy Roosevelt even ordered them for his NYPD. Yeah, the round mentioned above is 'hotter' than what they had then.
To me, my 4" & 6" 629's are just easily obtained .44 Russian/Special launchers... except when I need emphasis these days. Then, I clean it's chambers carefully - and in go my mediocre .44 Magnums!
Stainz
To me, my 4" & 6" 629's are just easily obtained .44 Russian/Special launchers... except when I need emphasis these days. Then, I clean it's chambers carefully - and in go my mediocre .44 Magnums!
Stainz
Nightcrawler
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I actually like mild magnums too. 240 grains @ 1000 fps is a fun plinking load, and is pretty gentle out of my heavy 5" 629 Classic.
Greg8098
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Nothing "pea shooter" at all about the .44 Mag. I absolutely love and will not part with my 4-inch Redhawk. On the other hand.... my .500 will probably come in handy one day if the Decepticons decide to invade Earth or something !!!
!!!Working Man
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Well here in Texas we have 9oz wheel guns made of unobtainume that shoot
4 rnds of 14.8 mm hard cast baloneyum.
....and the muzzle energy is measured in joules.
4 rnds of 14.8 mm hard cast baloneyum.
....and the muzzle energy is measured in joules.
ZeSpectre
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Ya forgot to mention the ceramic lined 10 gallon hat to ward off the backblast
koja48
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We used two live badgers as grips
C'mon Drav, tell the truth . . . we use live badgers NOW cuz wolverines are so tough to find anymore . . . and sheep (well, certain sheep) are CUTE (and popular), not tough. On the serious side, I'll stick with .357, .41. & .44 since I've evolved toward consistent shot placement and away from physical abuse.
C'mon Drav, tell the truth . . . we use live badgers NOW cuz wolverines are so tough to find anymore . . . and sheep (well, certain sheep) are CUTE (and popular), not tough. On the serious side, I'll stick with .357, .41. & .44 since I've evolved toward consistent shot placement and away from physical abuse.
griz
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Mine goes to 12
koja48
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My money is on the rifle.
Well now, if we're talkin' rifles, I developed a wildcat varminter for the gophers in Montana . . . you know, for those times I couldn't drive all the way out to my favorite fields. Wanted somethin' fast & flat, so I necked-down a .50 BMG to take a phonograph needle. It was quick!
Well now, if we're talkin' rifles, I developed a wildcat varminter for the gophers in Montana . . . you know, for those times I couldn't drive all the way out to my favorite fields. Wanted somethin' fast & flat, so I necked-down a .50 BMG to take a phonograph needle. It was quick!
Vern Humphrey
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I developed an almost identical cartridge. Since it was impossible to produce a fast enough twist to keep the phonograph needle flying point-forward, I hired a long, lanky gentleman of Scandanavian extraction to run down-range with the bullet, tapping it with a stick to keep it straight.
(What? You've never heard of a Finn-stabilized proectile?)
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