44 Magnum Bullet/Powder Recommendations

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Background: I’m going to start reloading for 44 Magnum. The gun I will use it for is a Henry lever action rifle. The rifle will mostly be for punching holes in paper but I will take it deer hunting to get at least one metaphorical notch in the stock. Soon I will be purchasing a S&W 357 revolver, which seems to have crossover with some powders. To make holes in paper, I will also be loading 44 Special and, when I get my revolver, 38 Special. I currently also have a 300 Blackout SBR that I load 110 gr Tac TX with H110.

Questions:

What .429/.430 bullet for deer? Barnes XPB? Hornady XTP? Hornady FTX?

What bullet for punching paper with 44 mag and 44 Special?

Trying not to expand my powder variety with another powder so leaning toward making H110 my choice, but load data for a lot of those bullets has Lil’Gun, Blue Dot, amongst others, that might be a better fit to add to my powder shelf based on reloading needs. So, in addition to H110, what one other powder would you recommend for the cartridges mentioned?
 
If you want to minimize powders I'd look at a medium burn rate powder to give you high versatility. A unique, universal, or Silhouette speed would be a good add and be good options in that 357/38 later. Bullets for hunting is kinda a personal choice. In a carbine the higher speed for xtp good opening and function. Cast boolits do it all cheaper imo and a good swc will be one and done...
https://missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=241&category=5&secondary=12&keywords=
 
If you're reloading I would just stick with 44mag and 357 cases, download as needed. Keeps things simpler and no ring to scrub out of the chamber/cylinder from the shorter cases.

44mag rifles have given me some fits over the years as they are often larger than my revolver bores.

H110 is a good option for 44 but only for hot loads, not much room to change up with that powder. Titegroup is also worth a look, has done well for me there.

XTP's ran well in my Marlin and Ruger rifle, but if you have a handgun in .44 I would get the Missouri bullet co 240gr LSWC for a start. If it runs well in your handgun and rifle, I would end there. Sure, expansion is great but that round from a 44 is going to cut a clean hole through any/all white tails (what I hunt, if you have bigger game then it changes some).
 
Problem with the montanabulletworks bullet in .44 mag-noe-k 255hr-swc, they state it won't work in most lever actions. Bummer.
Yeah I didn't spend a ton of time searching up options. There are some tricks like using special cases in magnums. I play that game with 38s in 357s. I'm just starting with 358429 in my 357 levers so I'm sure I'll have more answers after I battle that out....
 
You'll need to slug your rifle's barrel; SAAMI groove diameter is .431" vs .429'' for handguns (don't know why). My Puma has .431" groov dia so I use a minimum .433" cast bullets (Ranch Dog's 240 gr. RRNFP is an excellent, accurate bullet that feeds 100% in my 44 Mag. lever gun). I use a lot of Universal and 2400.
 
Test out the 44 Specials in the lever-gun before you go "all in". Some lever guns do not like the shorter rounds and you could have feed failures.
Powder wise - 2400 has worked well for me in 357Mag and 44Mag. H110 would work well in these too but, as previously stated you are limited with the charge window, you cannot download. Also, this powder requires magnum primers - another component to bear in mind.
Good luck.
 
I run 240 gr JSPs in my 44mags with a stout load of H110. I use the same load in my Henry 44 mag carbine and my Ruger SBH with very good accuracy. In my .357 mag pistols I run 2400 with with 158 gr coated SWCs or 158gr JSPs. With 2400 I can adjust loads accordingly and use regular SPPs. The H110 needs to be loaded close to max with Mag Primers for good accuracy. If your gonna run the .44mag go big or go home with the loads is my preference...ymmv
 
I'd stick with .44 mag cases, too, for reliability.

I have not loaded .44 mag, but have loaded Enforcer in .357. Consider Enforcer.

It can be downloaded a little and even loaded up it won't give the velocity, flash, recoil, or blast that H110 does. It meters like beach sand, which is nice. Doesn't require magnum primers.
 
The "standard" bullet for the 44 Magnum is a 240 grain thing, though Elmer Keith's Lyman 429421 was about 245 grs, and that bullet is what he used in his pre 44 Magnum reloads. His experiments were the basis for the commercial cartridge. I don't know why 240 grain was selected, I know there will be those who will offer heavy bullets, 265 to 300 grain in the 44 Magnum. What I don't know is whether those things will feed through the mechanism, as OAL is critical for proper feed in lever actions. And what I don't know, is what rate of twist your Henry has. There are Henry's with 1:38 and others with 1:20. In my experience, the Marlin 1:38 would not stabilize 290's when I tried them. I don't know how 1:20 will do.

And I am going to say, I don't know if heavier is better for anything. I shot my Marlin offhand at my gong target at 100 yards, and a 240 grain bullet moving 1700 fps at the muzzle, really whacked the target. I am sure that the 240's will have all the penetration needed at that distance. Expansion may in fact be better with the 180 grain bullets. The old advice was that the 44 Magnum in a rifle was good out to 125 yards, maybe 150 yards. I am sure the bullet drop past 100 yards turns into a rainbow somewhere between 100 and 200 yards.

As for bullets, I have never shot an animal with a 44 Magnum, but I am of the opinion that penetration is more important than "expansion". And that is based on the assumption that around 100 yards, the velocities for any 44 Magnum bullet, (muzzle velocity 1700 fps) are too slow to expand the bullet. And in that case, a Keith lead semiwadcutter will do everything a jacketed will do.

this web site has lots of experience with the 44 Magnum on game, how he pushes his bullets as fast as he does, I don't know. He has some zingers!

https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.44+Remington+Magnum.html


My opinion is that the two best powders in the 44 Magnum with 240 grain bullets is 2400 and H110. And in a rifle, H110/W296 gave the most velocity and acceptable accuracy (about four inches) at 100 yards.

The thing is, H110/W296 is not flexible, you can't cut the load. Which is OK if you are only going to use full power loads.

I conducted this load testing before it was finally announced that H110 was the same as W296. But after my load testing, I came to the conclusion the powders looked the same, shot the same, and therefore, had to be the same. I never saw that opinion in any of the in print tests of 44 Magnums, and the in print writers used both powders, and usually made claims that one was better than the other. When in fact, the only differences were differences in lots. Well , now we know better.

M1894 Marlin Ballard Barrel

240 Speer JHP 22.0 grs 2400 CCI 500
21-Dec-01 T = 54 °F

Ave Vel =1747
Std Dev =21
ES =68
Low =1717
High =1785
Number rounds =7


240 Nosler JHP 24.0 grs W296 WLP Fed cases
23-Mar-05 T = 65° F

Ave Vel =1725
Std Dev =7
ES =21
Low =1715
High =1736
N =5


240 Nosler JHP 24.5 grs W296 WLP Fed cases
23-Mar-05 T = 65° F

Ave Vel =1752
Std Dev =12
ES =28
Low =1735
High =1763
N =5


240 Nosler JHP 24.0 grs H110 WLP Midway cases
23-Mar-05 T = 65° F

Ave Vel =1710
Std Dev =3
ES =9
Low =1705
High =1714
N =5

240 Nosler JHP 24.5 grs H110 WLP Midway cases
23-Mar-05 T = 65° F

Ave Vel =1745
Std Dev =12
ES =45
Low =1723
High =1768
N =10

240 Rem JHP 24.0 grs H110 WLP Midway cases
23-Mar-05 T = 65° F


Ave Vel =1719
Std Dev =10
ES =29
Low =1705
High =1734
N =10

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As a comparison, this is what the same loads in a revolver clock out.

S&W M629-4 5" Barrel

250 LSWC 22.0 grs 2400 Midway cases, Fed primers
1-Oct-95 T = 75 °F

Ave Vel = 1336
Std Dev = 39
ES = 108
Low = 1286
High = 1394
N = 6

240JHP R-P 24.0 grs H110 Midway cases WLP
9-Oct-05 T = 66 °F

Ave Vel =1228
Std Dev =21.47
ES =70.16
Low =1268
High =1197
N=22


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What I have found with our Henry is that it shoots the 240gr JHP from Nosler, Hornady or Sierra all into a very nice cluster at 100yds. All of them will work on a whitetail or feral hog.

That said, I have close to a dozen molds to cast an assortment of bullets for this caliber. Not a single one will chamber in our rifle. I did contact Tom at Accurate Molds and he recommended using the following two molds,
https://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=43-240A

https://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=43-240I

The problem is either the nose length, and/or the diameter of my HP molds. Even using the FN pins they just won't chamber properly.

For powders I use H110 or Accurate #9. Either will do top end but #9 gives you a bit more flexibility and not quite as much flash.

I haven't gotten around to trying the above molds just yet, I just have been using the XTP's and the Noslers mostly due to they come in bulk packs. WOW just looked at them on Midway and they are really up there now. I think I cringed when I got the couple boxes we have for around $60. Might not be long now till I try out one of those molds.
 
I'd stick with .44 mag cases, too, for reliability.

I have not loaded .44 mag, but have loaded Enforcer in .357. Consider Enforcer.

It can be downloaded a little and even loaded up it won't give the velocity, flash, recoil, or blast that H110 does. It meters like beach sand, which is nice. Doesn't require magnum primers.
I think you’re right. I don’t know (yet) but I don’t think the recoil is going to be a huge factor with a rifle (since, at this time I’m not planning on a 44 Mag handgun) so 44 Special loads shouldn’t be a real factor in my decision if it means too much compromise.
 
What I have found with our Henry is that it shoots the 240gr JHP from Nosler, Hornady or Sierra all into a very nice cluster at 100yds. All of them will work on a whitetail or feral hog.

That said, I have close to a dozen molds to cast an assortment of bullets for this caliber. Not a single one will chamber in our rifle. I did contact Tom at Accurate Molds and he recommended using the following two molds,
https://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=43-240A

https://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=43-240I

The problem is either the nose length, and/or the diameter of my HP molds. Even using the FN pins they just won't chamber properly.

For powders I use H110 or Accurate #9. Either will do top end but #9 gives you a bit more flexibility and not quite as much flash.

I haven't gotten around to trying the above molds just yet, I just have been using the XTP's and the Noslers mostly due to they come in bulk packs. WOW just looked at them on Midway and they are really up there now. I think I cringed when I got the couple boxes we have for around $60. Might not be long now till I try out one of those molds.
The 240a is the exact same design as my noe that I cast by the thousands for 357... they do function perfectly and aren't oal sensitive for feeding in my experience... no idea how well they work on game.
 
I think you’re right. I don’t know (yet) but I don’t think the recoil is going to be a huge factor with a rifle (since, at this time I’m not planning on a 44 Mag handgun) so 44 Special loads shouldn’t be a real factor in my decision if it means too much compromise.
I run a recoil boot on my lever guns not for impact reduction but to increase lop and to prevent sliding of the butt plate on my arm while shooting offhand. My buddy has a cherry 45c that I really like, but the polished buttplate is no gooder for consistency for me.
 
In my wife's Ruger 99/44, the Hornady XTP's and Barnes XPB's both shoot very well. She's taken a couple deer with the XTP load, and they were DRT. I have worked up an XPB load for her since she wants to go to all copper bullets, I have a feeling they'll work just fine. I really like VV N110 with the 240 XTP's, it was super clean, and was very easy to work with. N110 shot great with the super long Barnes bullets, but I couldn't stuff enough in the case to reliably cycle the action, and I found a good load with H110 that does cycle the action. H110 shoots pretty darn well, and was usually 50-80fps faster than the N110. If you already have some H110, I'd look no further. It works great in the longer barrels as well!
 
I think you’re right. I don’t know (yet) but I don’t think the recoil is going to be a huge factor with a rifle (since, at this time I’m not planning on a 44 Mag handgun) so 44 Special loads shouldn’t be a real factor in my decision if it means too much compromise.

You can download those .44 mag cases to .44 spl. energy levels easily with several powders.
 
So, in addition to H110, what one other powder would you recommend for the cartridges mentioned?

H110 covers the full throttle stuff for .44 mag and .357. My first reaction to another powder to cover the rest would be Hodgon Universal but with the limited/non existent availability of the stuff I would choose HP38/Win 231. With H110 and HP38/Win 231 you can cover just about every rimmed revolver round out there from .38 Special to .500 S&W.
 
This is my journey !

I only use magnum cases, because I am lazy, so no carbon ring to clean out, no readjusting reloading dies! Could not find Bullseye powder one time years ago so switched to WST for low power loads in magnum cases, also a good powder for 9mm and 45 acp. I have been using 2400 powder for magnum loads for like 50 years and it suits me for everything from mild to wild. I like that it can be loaded reduced in power quite a bit. 2400 is also good in 410 shot shells and M1 Carbine loads. I cast my own 44's , 300 gr LBT LFN gc. Cast to .433 and size to .431. Had my Marlin rebarreled with a Douglas .429 bore 1-16" twist. Will stabilize said 300 grainers even at cat sneeze loads in both Ruger Redhawk 7.5" and the Marlin.

Velocities:

WST
5.5 grs 750 fps in both revolver and Marlin with 24" barrel. I know weird right, I triple checked that one!

2400
21 grs 1350 fps revolver and 1750 fps in marlin.

All loads were worked up in small increments and do not recommend them, do your own research :)


John
 
To summarize some general advice, I will probably be loading either 240 gr XTP or 225 XPB with H110 for a hunting load.

I'm not going to worry about loading 44 Special.

For general target shooting for the 44 Mag Henry, I plan on getting a 240 gr SWC (checking for feeding issues before going all in) and loading with one of the current powders currently available to me that I likely will also soon be using for 357 Magnum and maybe 38 Special when I get my revolver: Autocomp, HP-38, CFE Pistol or Titegroup. I'm relatively new to reloading pistol and I don't have any experience with any of those powders. Of those, is there a favorite or a least favorite?
 
I have one .44 magnum lever rifle and one .44 magnum lever carbine. I only shoot higher end hunting loads through them, no matter if it is paper, steel plates, or game.
I use the Hornady 240 grain XtP JHP bullet and either H110, Alliant 2400, or Accurate AA#9 (some powders were not always readily available).

For my revolvers, I prefer lighter loads and use HP-38, W231, or Unique powder with either lead, plated, or jacketed 240 grain bullets. I also have some lead 200 grain double ended wadcutters that are a hoot to shoot. They make pretty big holes in paper.
 
I have one .44 magnum lever rifle and one .44 magnum lever carbine. I only shoot higher end hunting loads through them, no matter if it is paper, steel plates, or game.

Is there a reason not to shoot SWC in the Henry lever rifle, besides potential feeding issues?
 
Background: I’m going to start reloading for 44 Magnum. The gun I will use it for is a Henry lever action rifle. The rifle will mostly be for punching holes in paper but I will take it deer hunting to get at least one metaphorical notch in the stock. Soon I will be purchasing a S&W 357 revolver, which seems to have crossover with some powders. To make holes in paper, I will also be loading 44 Special and, when I get my revolver, 38 Special. I currently also have a 300 Blackout SBR that I load 110 gr Tac TX with H110.

Questions:

What .429/.430 bullet for deer? Barnes XPB? Hornady XTP? Hornady FTX?

What bullet for punching paper with 44 mag and 44 Special?

Trying not to expand my powder variety with another powder so leaning toward making H110 my choice, but load data for a lot of those bullets has Lil’Gun, Blue Dot, amongst others, that might be a better fit to add to my powder shelf based on reloading needs. So, in addition to H110, what one other powder would you recommend for the cartridges mentioned?
I have a 44 magnum Big Boy too. It shoot without any problem, xtp, Campro, and hardcast bullet in 200 lrnfp and 240 swc.

For 200 and 240 gr cast bullets, W244 gave good results. But, the starting load of 6.2 grain, for 200gr bullet was so low in pressure that it leave a trace of soot on the case. I will try 6.8 gr next time. For 240 gr, starting load of 8.5 grains was perfect.

W572 and IMR 4227 performed equally well with all bullet at starting load.

For 240 grains jacketed Campro bullets, W572, IMR 4227, Enforcer and Vithavuori N-110 performed pretty well. Blue Dot performed ok. I will have to try it again.

I love my Henry rifle so was every member at my gun club
 
To summarize some general advice, I will probably be loading either 240 gr XTP or 225 XPB with H110 for a hunting load.

I'm not going to worry about loading 44 Special.

For general target shooting for the 44 Mag Henry, I plan on getting a 240 gr SWC (checking for feeding issues before going all in) and loading with one of the current powders currently available to me that I likely will also soon be using for 357 Magnum and maybe 38 Special when I get my revolver: Autocomp, HP-38, CFE Pistol or Titegroup. I'm relatively new to reloading pistol and I don't have any experience with any of those powders. Of those, is there a favorite or a least favorite?
Hp-38 aka win 231 will do your low to high 38s and moderate 357s decently. It would be worth a pound to find out if you like it or not. Midrange 44s should also be good.
 
Good sir. If you’re not shooting 44 magnum from a pistol, I would only stock H110/ 296.

Of the bullets that you mentioned I would choose the 240 XTP first. But I would choose any of the JSP bullets before any on your list. Zero Bullet Co 240, Speer Deepcurl JSP(not Hp), Remington 240 JSP, Nosler 240 JSP. A gentleman above hit the nail on the head with words and loads. 24.5 H110 is not going to give you as much flash as anything less. 23.0 shoots best but will throw a shot from time to time and throw a fireball about 25% of the time. The JSP is going to expand, you don’t need a HP at rifle velocities.

Inside 100 yards, they will all kill from almost any angle you can get a bullet through the vitals.

To date, I have never captured a 44 bullet in a deer. Through both shoulders, necks etc.
 
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