45 1911 setback issue

[geo57]

My setback with .45acp was due to the Remington brass I had that had thinner walls / less neck tension. With Winchester brass I never had a problem.

 

[Walkalong]

Interesting. Was it Lee, EGW? They both advertise .003” under.

I think Lee makes the EGW, look identical

 

[Walkalong]

Thanks Dan.

Brass wasn’t sized. My bad and mystery solved.

I love it when it’s simple.

I was trying to adjust a trigger this morning and the sear wouldn’t catch…. Hmmm , safety’s off, good there……pulled my hair for a bit, checked the safety again, yea, good……but dang!

Left it be went got some water, let my mind relax, walked back in the room, picked it up, dang safety was on….. Aggravating when we do that sort of thing, but relief when everything is ok.

 

[CQB45ACP]

I think Lee makes the EGW, look identical

Yes they do look alike and nearly identical price. Hard to imagine the market is that large.

 

[StrykerByte.45]

Normal reloading dies for 45acp will require .452 sized bullets. This is due to safety and extending the life of the casings. Like springs, expansion and contraction of the cases will increase wear, so by not sizing back to factory spec you will be safer and increase the life of the case, .452 bullets will be needed.
If you really want to use .451 sized bullets you will need an undersized die or a Lee factory crimp die, or similar. 45acp does not need a crimp, it headspaces at the case mouth, neck tension is all that is needed and the correct sizing for the bullet is needed. Keep in mind that using .451 bullets for reloading will drastically reduce your case life to just a few cycles rather than about 100 by using .452 sized bullets.

 

[CQB45ACP]

Normal reloading dies for 45acp will require .452 sized bullets. This is due to safety and extending the life of the casings. Like springs, expansion and contraction of the cases will increase wear, so by not sizing back to factory spec you will be safer and increase the life of the case, .452 bullets will be needed.
If you really want to use .451 sized bullets you will need an undersized die or a Lee factory crimp die, or similar. 45acp does not need a crimp, it headspaces at the case mouth, neck tension is all that is needed and the correct sizing for the bullet is needed. Keep in mind that using .451 bullets for reloading will drastically reduce your case life to just a few cycles rather than about 100 by using .452 sized bullets.

I for one still use .452” bullets with the undersized die but get your point.

And 100 cycles is quite a few. Is that an estimate? And “just a few” using .451” bullets is tempting to try. But I don’t have any bullets nor am I THAT curious

EDIT: not true, I just resized hundreds of Acmes down to .451”

Remember this article? I think the guy got 54 cycles before the primer pocket got dangerously shallow.

How many times can I reload 45 ACP brass? – Florida Reloading

www.floridareloading.com

 

[Walkalong]

.451 bullets work just fine with a good .45 ACP sizer, if they don’t call whoever made it, get it replaced.

I see the FCD touted as a cure for poor neck tension, but the post sizing ring can’t help, and neither will a proper taper crimp, which any crimp die can do.

 

[StrykerByte.45]

I for one still use .452” bullets with the undersized die but get your point.

And 100 cycles is quite a few. Is that an estimate? And “just a few” using .451” bullets is tempting to try. But I don’t have any bullets nor am I THAT curious

EDIT: not true, I just resized hundreds of Acmes down to .451”

Remember this article? I think the guy got 54 cycles before the primer pocket got dangerously shallow.

How many times can I reload 45 ACP brass? – Florida Reloading

www.floridareloading.com

Yep, also how hot the round is loaded will determine the life cycles. When I said just a few I had really hot loads in mind. With mild 45acp loads should get a good life span.
I didnt estimate, Lee suggests using .452 bullets with normal sizing to get over 100 uses out of 45acp casings, my guess, with mild loads. By mild, I mean regular loaded 45acp, neither light nor hot near +p.
Just like a spring, the farther you stretch or compress it, the less the life span will be.

 

[StrykerByte.45]

.451 bullets work just fine with a good .45 ACP sizer, if they don’t call whoever made it, get it replaced.

I see the FCD touted as a cure for poor neck tension, but the post sizing ring can’t help, and neither will a proper taper crimp, which any crimp die can do.

I haven't used a crimp with 45acp, just the proper bullet with the sizer. The bullet is held by the neck tension.

 

[CQB45ACP]

Yep, also how hot the round is loaded will determine the life cycles. When I said just a few I had really hot loads in mind. With mild 45acp loads should get a good life span.
I didnt estimate, Lee suggests using .452 bullets with normal sizing to get over 100 uses out of 45acp casings, my guess, with mild loads. By mild, I mean regular loaded 45acp, neither light nor hot near +p.
Just like a spring, the farther you stretch or compress it, the less the life span will be.

I’m in the midst of a layperson’s test of using the same batch (200ish) of Winchester 45acp cases. Will my attention span endure long enough to get results? I’ll let everyone know.

 

[CQB45ACP]

I haven't used a crimp with 45acp, just the proper bullet with the sizer. The bullet is held by the neck tension.

Me too

 

[StrykerByte.45]

Me too

Oh yea