.45-70 and 230 grain XTP

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230 grain! Wow - I think lightest bullet I have seen data for is a 350!!! Actually Accurate shows a 300 in light loads.

Not sure where you'll find data for that light a bullet. I load with 405's and can load those down to trap door levels quite easily if required.

Subject to someone more knowledgeable coming by - I really am not sure you will find a bullet that light - tho sounds like you have an XTP in mind. Is it .458/.459 tho?

Sorry no help.
 
The bullet is .458 and a friend wants me to reload for him. I've reloaded 300+ grain, but never this light. I scanned several reloading manuals (from powder mans...) but found nothing close :cuss: . The closest was 275 grain but I feel there may be too much of a weight difference to be safe with it. THNX fer the reply tho...

Berek
 
I guess - if he really wants this light (and still puzzled!) - best way is to extrapolate back from existing data for heavier bullets, but chances are when you get this light - a faster powder might be in order.

Dang it - talk him into something else! :p

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BTW - quite forgot to say a hearty welcome to you! :)
 
Yeah, I tried to talk him into 300 grain Hornady JHP, but he wants to use these as "demo" rounds because their less expensive than anything 300+ grains.

Thanx fer the welcome.
 
My brand-spanking new Hornady bullet chart I picked up at the NRA meeting shows all .45 XTPs, including the 230 grain, as .451" The lightest .458" is 300 grains and is not an XTP.
 
I have a conversion insert so I can fire 45acp [ .451"] in my 45-70 [.458"], it isn't accurate!! I think I have seen a bullet [lead ?] of 250 gr for the 45-70 but I can't remember where.
 
the lightest pill I have EVER seen was for a 292 grain Lyman mould.

You could possibly modify this by putting a plug in centrally where the base is in the mould..make a hollow-base bullet...but why go though all the trouble for a lighweight 458 bullet?

45-70 isn't designed to sling light bullets...IF you need a plinking gun, go get a Ruger 10-22 or somthing...

Darrell
 
It sure sounds llike a .451" diameter .45ACP bullet. I just checked the Hornady website and the lightest .458" diameter bullet they show is 300 grains.

I'd be real cautious about loading for someone else no matter how close of a friend they are. It's better to show a friend how to do it themself.
 
I talked him into it. He picked up Hornady 300gr JHPs. Now if I could only find info for the .45-70 using Winchester powders :banghead: ....

BTW, Thanks fer the beware, Sharp Shooter. This person is my adopted father and I've been reloading rifle for him for years. This is the first year for the .45-70. He does the shotshell, I do rifle/pistol.

Thanx fer the responses...

Berek
 
I share your frustration re powder choice ... but seeing as we are now on the 300 bullets - hey - treat yourself to another powder!!! Many choices but just good ol' Reloader 7 will permit some very safe loads. I haven't tried it but some folks also reckon 2400 will do fine too at lower loadings... (stuff some of that in your mag loads instead of 296!!) :p
 
The only mag I got is a 300WSM. Love it, loove it! I reload with 760 and have gotten tight groups. 2.5"-3" consistantly at 500 yards. As soon as I get my camera hooked up, I'll get some pics posted.

I submitted a load info request to Winchester for the .45-70 but I think I'll have to go 2400 or 4198. I've requested load info from them before and got directed to that 2 year old manual. I was even suprised to see info for the .300 WSM listed :eek: .
 
Well, I received a reply and, no shock :fire: , they referred me to the 2 year old Reloading Manual. I replied stating that I feel they should include load info for the ammo they produce and for cals they produce brass for. Doubt it will go anywhere, but...

:banghead:
Berek
 
if you are set on 230 grain why not just cast your own. personally id like to know what a like little bugger like that would do. lol sounds like fun.
 
I think that I read somewhere that Barnes makes a 250 gr HP for the 45/70. If my memmory is correct that that is possibly the lightest bullet in .458 that is availibly.
 
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