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.45 ACP at 400yd?!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by newdude, Feb 24, 2009.

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  1. newdude

    newdude Member

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    Is this real?:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkhzRE6mwVo
    For what little i know about pistols, this seems awefull touchy to actually do. Not to say that if real, i haev nwe respect for XDs:D
    (BTW, is this the madOgre that is a member here? [Georgehill?])

    If this has allready been discussed, sorry, and lock it please.
     
  2. Zundfolge

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    I'm sure he actually did it.

    I don't buy that it was on his second shot of the day, I imagine he'd walked his way up to it (that or got lucky).

    Still good shootin'
     
  3. ridata

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    Yeah, that's George Hill.
    He has a thread about it here, and he said a little more about it.

    Not sure if there's a thread here.
     
  4. MT GUNNY

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    I believe it.
     
  5. gvnwst

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    Cool. Really cool. Imagine what he could have done with a XDm 40!:p
     
  6. Zundfolge

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    Probably not, George hasn't been active here since he started his own forum.
     
  7. Interceptor_Knight

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    Definitely impressive. If he zeroed the XD at 200 yds using Remington Golden Sabre 185gr +P the bullet had around 166 inches of drop at 400, was moving at 787fps and 247ish Ft/lbs of energy. All dependant on what round he used. This uses a 185 gr round mv of 1140fps. BC of .195
     
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  8. Izaak Walton

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    :eek:
    How much drop?
     
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    At that range, with a slow bullet like a .45, aren't you practically lobbing the bullets and hitting towards the bottom of a parabolic curve?
     
  10. Pulse

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    according to the Federal ballistic calculator with a 100 yard zero with 4 diffrent Calibers(they did not have a 10mm that was loaded hot, almost mirrors the .40 S&W, so i did not include it.):
     

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    I doubt it would be so easy if moved to unfamiliar target setup with nothing in the distance to judge hold over.
     
  12. Kind of Blued

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    I love trying stuff like that. :) When you fully expect to miss, it makes it all the more fun.
     
  13. Walkalong

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    I used to shoot 1 gallon paint cans at 100 yards all day long with a 1911 when I was young and could see, pop cans on a good day, so why not a bear sized target at 400.

    I can still worry the mess out of a coke can at 100 yards using a red dot on a 1911.
     
  14. Sig 226 .40

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    The best I ever did with my Springfield Mil-Spec 1911 was 225 yards using, of all ammo, 230 grain winchester White box ball rounds. Took me 3 shots to clang the "Iron Maiden" at the National Guard post in Camp Smith, Peekskill, NY. Its an uphill shot with the "Iron Maiden"(5 ft x 2.5ft) silhouetted against a large flat boulder in the ground. Shot #1 was low by 4'...and left by 2'. Shot #2 was center...short by a foot...I adjusted by holding at the 1 o clock position approx. a slides height high and the 3rd shot smacked into the lower chest area. Did it in 3 and won $10. The guy I shot against did it in 5. (BTW...we both shot for the NYARNG shooting team at the time and both of us have our Dist. Marksman Badges (Gold)) So I can believe a 400 yard shot with a 1911...just gotta know how high to hold with the ammo you're using.
     
  15. Wesson Smith

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    Now I'm curious! I have a SA Trophy Match, and I think that when the weather breaks, I'm gonna give this a try. Well, at 300 yards anyway. That's the longest rifle lane at the outdoor range I belong to. I'll have to report back on all my misses. :D
     
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    Have to say that is crazy impressive... Never would think of trying to hit something at 400 with a pistol lol.. Other than a 50 or something I guess...
     
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    i got an email from the USCCA before trying to sell me a book where one of the taglines was "how would you like to hit your target at 600 yards!?"... um, yeah. lol! i'm sure anyone can.... eventually!
     
  18. Claude Clay

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    How much drop?

    462 inches of holdover is......hmmmmm.......about 1.25 telephone poles high.
     
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    How exactly does someone sight in standard pistol sights at 200 yards? With a flight time of at least 1 1/2 seconds, the drop is too much to be of any practical use. I don't believe the shot was made as depicted.
     
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    Trial & error seems much more practical for stuff like this than "sighting in a pistol for 200 yards"...
     
  21. rcmodel

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    Yes it can be done.
    Especially with a match-grade 1911.
    I won a lot of beer money in the service doing it.

    You don't change the sights to zero at long range on a 1911, or most revolvers for that matter, because they don't have that much sight adjustment.

    The "trick" is to know how much front sight, or even slide at very long range, to hold above the rear sight. Then you just lob the bullets in on target.

    Long-range handgun shooting is relatively easy really for a good handgun shot, once you try it.
    Even with a snub-nose S&W!

    rc
     
  22. Interceptor_Knight

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    Actually, using intermediate ranges is smart trial and error....

    If you start out adjusting your sights for an impact of 16.25" high at 25yds and then you should be about 58" high at 100, 83" high at 200, 66" high at 300 and dead on at 400yds.
    You should be able to put all of your shots in a 1" circle at 25 yards if you want to hit a 16" circle at 400 yards. 2" circle for a 32" circle, etc....
     
  23. earplug

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    Long distance is fun

    I used to shoot and occasionally hit the full size chicken targets at 200 yards at a rifle metallic silhouette range. This with a bone stock 1911.
    Practice makes it possible.
     
  24. HippieMagic

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    I was able to hit just below a bullseye at 100 yards with an XD-40 but it took me a few more than 2 shots to get it right haha.
     
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    If you read his page they state that they were aiming at a spot half way up the mountain behind the bear target.

    With enough trial and error, it seems both doable and like a heck of a lot of fun.
     
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