.45 ACP Starline brass - LPP or SPP

[Tallinar]

Does anyone know if all Starline .45 ACP brass is built for LPP? All I can see on their website is LPP, but wondering if they have SPP floating around out there as well.

Reason I ask is just to make sure I know what I'm getting myself into if I find "Starline .45 ACP" brass on the web, and the seller doesn't list primer type. If it's all LPP, then I don't need to bother asking the seller to verify.

Thanks,

 

[Targa]

I use LPP with my Starline brass. https://www.starlinebrass.com/45-auto-brass

I have been placing back orders through their website, it hasn’t taken very long for them to get filled…..as of yet anyway.

 

[fxvr5]

Ask Starline.

 

[Tallinar]

Ask Starline.

I certainly could, but given that their website indicates they are buried in requests and may not be able to get back to folks, I thought I would query the community.

 

[Toprudder]

I would say that if they don’t specifically list the primer size, then it is all large primer.

 

[higgite]

Reason I ask is just to make sure I know what I'm getting myself into if I find "Starline .45 ACP" brass on the web, and the seller doesn't list primer type.

Ask Starline.

I certainly could, but given that their website indicates they are buried in requests and may not be able to get back to folks, I thought I would query the community.

Ask the seller?

 

[EricBu]

On their website, 45 ACP is specified as LPP (says it right at the top of the page). I don't think I've ever seen Starline SPP, though I imagine if you called them you could place an order for it specifically.

https://www.starlinebrass.com/45-auto-brass

 

[1-cavediver]

FYI, I have both LPP and SPP .45 acp brass. Why?? Because it gives me complete versatility in the event that one type of primer becomes difficult to obtain. It’s also very easy to keep them separated. LPP became hard to find this last year but I had massive supplies of SPP so that is what I used to keep shooting .45 acp. LPP have now started showing up so I’ve been restocking them.
Also, I’ve seen zero difference between the two primers when using the same powder and projectiles. From accuracy to velocity through the
chronograph, they perform the same.

 

[Tallinar]

Ask the seller?

As I stated in my original post (the part you didn't sassily quote):

If it's all LPP, then I don't need to bother asking the seller to verify.

Does my question require a verbose argument? First, not everyone who has brass to sell understands what they have. Second, in these days of component shortages, where I'm sitting on a bunch of LPPs but no SPPs, it would be really nice if I were equipped with knowledge such as, "Starline has only ever made .45 ACP with LPP." That way if an opportunity to buy Starline .45 ACP brass happened to pop for me, I could jump on it without having to ask the seller to verify -- since in all likelihood the opportunity will have come and gone by the time the seller responds to my inquiry.

Since I know we have some brass scholars on THR, I thought this was a completely reasonable question. Maybe I was wrong.

Thanks for your meaningful contribution to this thread.

 

[higgite]

Since I know we have some brass scholars on THR, I thought this was a completely reasonable question. Maybe I was wrong.

Thanks for your meaningful contribution to this thread.

My bad.

However, I did call Starline and ask if they make 45 Auto brass with small primer pockets and the nice lady said no, only large. It took 2 minutes. Your welcome.

 

[CQB45ACP]

I’m by no means a scholar, but my “library” of 80 45ACP cases has several different Starline cases ALL LPP. I have found NO SPP Starline cases nor have I heard of such. This info is free and worth every penny.

Here’s a picture once again.

 

[Tallinar]

My bad.

However, I did call Starline and ask if they make 45 Auto brass with small primer pockets and the nice lady said no, only large. Your welcome.

You are the man. Thanks!

 

[Targa]

I really hate the small and large primer thing...it is fine when I buy new Starline brass as I know I am good with LPP. The fun is when you are collecting range brass and have to sort the SPP stuff from the LPP.

 

[Tallinar]

The fun is when you are collecting range brass and have to sort the SPP stuff from the LPP.

Yup! I have a bucket of range brass that is all SPP. It just sits on the shelf... taunting me.

 

[Misplacedtexan]

All of the starline 45acp brass I have and seen are large primer.

 

[Toprudder]

I actually prefer small primer 45acp. But I collect it all, and when I work up loads, I start with large primer first. When I find a good load, I then try it with small primer. There are a few powders where I have seen as much as 200fps difference. (I have tested over 30 different powders in 45acp).

As far as having to sort large and small primer brass, I made a sorting plate that helps out. I can dump brass into it and almost all the cases will drop in head first. I have screws (5mm IIRC) in the bottom that will fit into large pockets, but not small pockets, so that small primer cases will stand proud and can quickly be plucked with large tweezers or needle nose pliers. This sorter will also work with 10mm brass, which is also being invaded by the small primer variety now.

 

[CQB45ACP]

I actually prefer small primer 45acp. But I collect it all, and when I work up loads, I start with large primer first. When I find a good load, I then try it with small primer. There are a few powders where I have seen as much as 200fps difference. (I have tested over 30 different powders in 45acp).

As far as having to sort large and small primer brass, I made a sorting plate that helps out. I can dump brass into it and almost all the cases will drop in head first. I have screws (5mm IIRC) in the bottom that will fit into large pockets, but not small pockets, so that small primer cases will stand proud and can quickly be plucked with large tweezers or needle nose pliers. This sorter will also work with 10mm brass, which is also being invaded by the small primer variety now.

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Well that contraption is quite an ingenious idea.

 

[Walkalong]

My bad.

However, I did call Starline and ask if they make 45 Auto brass with small primer pockets and the nice lady said no, only large. It took 2 minutes. Your welcome.

We’re going to call this asked and answered.