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45LC as a CCW?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by armedaccountant, Jan 17, 2013.

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  1. armedaccountant

    armedaccountant Member

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    I was curious about modern options in a DA 45LC as a CCW, besides the Judge and similar .410 arms. I'm just asking because when I walked past the ammo isle at the store today about the only handgun ammo they had was 45LC.

    Is it a good round for SD? I'm guessing it is because it was used for a long time. Are there any modern non-judge .410 offerings?
     
  2. ArchAngelCD

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    The 45 Colt when loaded correctly is very powerful and will stop any man on Earth.
     
  3. rcmodel

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    They are also the size of a Smart Car in a CCW revolver.

    S&W makes or has made some very nice .45 Colt revolvers.
    But they are BIG for a CCW gun, as all .45 revolvers must be.

    rc
     
  4. suemarkp

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    I like my Taurus 450Ti. It is very light and has a medium frame and grip. A revolver has some bulk, but this is one of my favorite carry guns. It is only a 5 shot though.

    A S&W N frame is too huge to carry concealed, and I think that's all they use for 45LC.
     
  5. Dnaltrop

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    I love the .45 Colt, jumped into it with my first replica Schofield at the peak of the ammo shortages a while back. Very controllable round in those inconvenient (for some) large framed revolvers.

    I'm a tall fellow, and my EDC is a 4 5/8" Blackhawk that simply vanishes in a shoulder rig under a Hawaiian shirt, I'm also starting to consider adding a similarly-sized DA revolver on the other side (Redhawk? SRH? Model 25?) but other expenses first, plenty to ponder while I save.

    If you intend to shoot the gun more than a few times a year, it's also one of the best reasons to have a reloading setup, even a basic Lee turret can pay for itself several times over in one year.

    Not to mention there are LOT of Taurus judge owners out there buying up all of the non-cowboy .45 Colt before you set foot in the store.

    Lot of fun when you break up the light crack-crack-crack of 9mm's at the range with that diaphragm twanging report. :evil:
     
  6. Dr.Rob

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    Great cartridge, not a lot of CCW friendly revolvers chambered in it.
     
  7. Stainz

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    S&W's 'Governor' is a six shot that will chamber .45 Colt and .45 Schofield, not to mention moonclipped .45 ACPs. It's shorter in OAL than my 4" 625 Mountain Guns in .45 Colt - and weighs in at <2/3 their mass, too. A 255gr LSWC is substantial - a Speer 250gr Gold Dot even more so, for light skinned vermin. I bought mine 6/11 - and it is still a hoot to shoot. Keeper... and I haven't bought .410's for mine since the second week of ownership (I bought mine mainly for it's moonclipped .45 ACP capability - it shares such duties with my 625JM.).

    Stainz
     
  8. Lucky Derby

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    When introduced the .45 Colt was the most powerful handgun cartridge available. It was the "magnum" of it's day. It can be loaded to .44 magnum levels, with lower pressure, in an approriate revovler
     
  9. StrawHat

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    For the passed three decades I have carried an N frame 45 ACP as my Amex revolver. Is it big? Yes. Is it heavy? I guess so but in a proper holster on a proper belt it is barely noticeable. I started with a Bianchi 5BH, then the Safariland equivalent, and used a Justin Ranger belt. I have also used the Simply Rugged pancake holster with the same belt. All have worked well for me. If you decide to use the 45 long Colt, the S&W Mountian revolver is a good choice. Better grips will be a plus but the most important parts are the holster and belt.

    While other cartridges have taken the limelight in SD handguns, it is only because few folks are willing to carry a 45 caliber revolver. It is still the ultimate.
     
  10. oldpapps

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    The 45 Colt (long Colt if you like) is a very effective round, even when loaded with black powder.

    I knew a Deputy that carried a Colt Trooper (.357 Revolver with 4 inch barrel and fat square butt) ALL of the time, street clothes included. He was a big boy and could get by with it. Back then I was not fat (I'm pleasingly very plump now) and had to go with an ankle holster.

    So, depending upon the weapon, YES, a .45 Colt revolver could be used as a CCW weapon. Sorry but I can think of so many better suited weapons to carry CCW.
     
  11. lemaymiami

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    Some years ago (mid eighties, if memory serves) my small 100 man department still hadn't made the transition to autos and we were required to carry revolvers. After a particularly ineffective shooting incident where two officers hit the target multiple times.... and the target then said " I guess you got me" and sat down to wait for the parameds... Some of our better trained combat types moved to carry either 44 (not allowed mag) or 45 long colt revolvers. Those of us that handled them at the range were impressed with everything about them for duty use.

    That said, the real problem with a large weapon for off duty or concealed carry (whether officer or citizen)... is that you'll quickly find reasons not to carry that very good combat piece. It's just too big, too heavy, and unless you're a large framed individual that fine weapon won't be with you when it's likely to be needed most.

    I carried a medium frame high cap 9mm or 40 cal for at least my last ten years in law enforcement. I carried, off duty, the exact same weapon I carried on duty - only in an ankle holster. Yes, it is possible to force yourself to become accustomed to something that most would find uncomfortable (nothing like living and working in a high threat environment to motivate you).
    That said, most simply won't do it (and I still have the marks on my ankle almost 17 years later from carrying that weight on my ankle - and the noticable veins where the holster lay, even though I haven't carried a sidearm one time since I retired in 1995...).

    Note: the 'target' I mentioned was the suicidal brother of a cop who dressed up in camo fatigues, called in a "man with a gun" incident, then fired several shots toward the officers as they approached on foot. Hit five or six times with 38 ammo in the torso - he survived the shooting in pretty good shape. Just one more thing to give a uniform cop bad dreams....
     
  12. armedaccountant

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    Thanks for all the replies. You all have confirmed what I suspected. A 45 Colt is plenty for SD, but the firearms designed to fire it are not friendly for CCW. I wasn't planning on making it a primary CCW, just was wondering about it since like I said it was the only thing I saw on the shelves in one store. Thought it could be a possible backup. However it does sound like it would make a respectable HD or Trail Gun when I can OC. Plus we all need the excuse to buy another gun don't we??
     
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    I'd imagine that if you had an over abundance of money, you could have a very slim 4 shot revolver made. Low round count, but if I needed 4 45 colts...I'd want a rifle.
     
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    The only 45LC I could conceal on me would be the Bond. For the size, I'd prefer my J-frame or a Kahr 9mm. I think the 45LC is a great round, but the ammo is very expensive commercially and the guns tend to be pretty big for concealed carry.
     
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    Than why not do what a lot of us do here in Alaska get a good belt and
    a good holster and open carry on ur hip?? Tom
     
  16. Hammerdown77

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    S&W Model 25 Mountain Gun with boot grips is a good option, although it is a fullsize gun. Still, the 4" pencil barrel and the big holes keep it from being too obnoxious. Not a pocket gun, though.
     
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    I will on occasion carry a 4 3/4" Colt SAA. It is not a gun to conceal in summer, but during cold weather months, depending on how you dress, it can be done.
     
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    Even with thin or boot grips, this almost 3 lb bad boy ain't hiding out in your waistband. Joe
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    It's just an S&W N-Frame sized gun. Get one with a three or four inch barrel.

    Ruger has them, but they're a bit bigger. I found the Ruger Alaskan with 2 1/2" barrel in 44 Magnum to be large, but it's possible to carry with the right holster and belt.
     
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    My two favorite guns in this caliber are a 2nd Gen Colt SAA and my American Derringer Model 1.

    I load my 45LCs with Black Powder...more fun than the 4th of July.
     
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    I have few guns that I sold that I would like back. I had a Taurus Tracker 4" barrel in 45 Colt. It was a great carry piece. 5 shots in a K frame sized gun. It had a great trigger after much dryfiring and shot very well. Had I kept it it would have had shortened barrel to 3" and the grips replaced with some niced wood or smooth rubber. The "gripper" grips were just that, too grippy and caused cover and shirts to be bunched up.
    Now Taurus has converted that whole line of compact 450 series revolvers to the extra large cylinder of the Judge.
     
  22. 460Shooter

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    Fantastic round. IMO second only to the .357 mag for utility, though I am becoming deeply facinated by the .41 mag. CCW........ good luck. .45 cal = big guns. Open carry, sure!
     
  23. Loc n Load

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    Tauras Titanium 45 LC

    Bought one of those several years ago.....it weighs around 19 oz. or so.....I have carried it for years, it is frequently my "pocket" gun.....carry soft lead SWC HP's in it.....also the N frame Smith's are concealable if you dress for the gun....I carry a 4" M-29 or a M-58, with Houge grips in a CABO IWB holster
    during the months when I wear a sweat shirt or jacket. The 45 LC is a time proven round.
     
  24. Vern Humphrey

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    I have two revolvers in .45 Colt (and none in .44 Magnum.) One is a Colt New Service with a 7 1/2" barrel, the other is a Ruger Blackhawk with a 5 1/2" barrel. Neither one is exactly what you would call "concealable." But either one could be carried under a coat.

    And if the open carry bill passes the legislature -- who knows, my old Colt just might be my going to town gun.:D
     
  25. Deaf Smith

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    The 3 inch 625 in .45 LC sounds like the deal you want.

    That is the top one you see below.

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    Now it's in .45 ACP but the same gun, with just a bit longer cylinder, was made in .45 LC!

    I'd be real happy to find one myself.

    Deaf
     

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