5.7x28 load data

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Hi,
I was wondering if anyone had a link to reliable load data for 5.7x28mm rounds. I would also appreciate any advice or recommendations from people who have experience reloading 5.7x28mm.
Thanks
 
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone had a link to reliable load data for 5.7x28mm rounds. I would also appreciate any advice or recommendations from people who have experience reloading 5.7x28mm.
Thanks
I load the 5.7.
I don’t clean the cases in SS pins as I do my other calibers due to the lacquer coating.
The shoulder has to be moved back a considerable way after firing.
I use 40gr Hornady A-Max and Accurate #7.
I’m currently on vacation.
I’ll post more once I get back on Sunday or Monday.
https://loaddata.com/articles/pdf/ld-17 pearce lr1.pdf
 
Is there a reason not to use .223 Rem bullets?

Both cartridges use .224 bullets, and yes the lighter bullets in that caliber could be suitable for both. Barnes 30-36gr for example is often suggested.

Historical powder of choice between the well known 5.7 reloaders and guides is Ramshot True Blue. AA#7 I've seen used regularly too.

As mentioned, FN is still it seems the only large scale producer of the brass. And that brass has a lacquer that most suggest not to remove. So the case cleaning is usually just a warm water and simple green bath vs. tumble or US.

This is a cartridge where min and max charge can be a few tenths of grains apart. Precision powder measuring and bullet depth seating are important.
 
Both cartridges use .224 bullets, and yes the lighter bullets in that caliber could be suitable for both. Barnes 30-36gr for example is often suggested.

Historical powder of choice between the well known 5.7 reloaders and guides is Ramshot True Blue. AA#7 I've seen used regularly too.

As mentioned, FN is still it seems the only large scale producer of the brass. And that brass has a lacquer that most suggest not to remove. So the case cleaning is usually just a warm water and simple green bath vs. tumble or US.

This is a cartridge where min and max charge can be a few tenths of grains apart. Precision powder measuring and bullet depth seating are important.
I don’t wash the cases at all.
Since I use Hornady Unique to Lube the cases I simply wipe them down with a microfiber cloth to remove the lube.
I brush the inside of the case necks and use a primer pocket cleaning brush.
 
I’ve loaded bullets from 30-75g in the 5.7. I don’t clean the cases either other than a simple wipe down to get lube off. Have an accurate scale for this round as it’s very sensitive but it is a very fun round to load.
 
Many threads here and on the web
Do your homework before under taking load this caliber

In previous posts I posted links to some resources,
 
Would the fun police AKA the BATFE have an issue with using FMJ bullets to reload? I think I remember reading somewhere that FN only sells hollow point and ballistic tip to civilians because FMJ becomes armor piercing at the velocities involved?
 
Would the fun police AKA the BATFE have an issue with using FMJ bullets to reload? I think I remember reading somewhere that FN only sells hollow point and ballistic tip to civilians because FMJ becomes armor piercing at the velocities involved?
Green tip 5.7x28 look it up, 5.7 is a handloaders dream. only because of the availability of .224, keep it under 55gn or your looking at tumble bumble
 
Would the fun police AKA the BATFE have an issue with using FMJ bullets to reload? I think I remember reading somewhere that FN only sells hollow point and ballistic tip to civilians because FMJ becomes armor piercing at the velocities involved?

FMJ is fine. There are a few FN ammo loadings that are restricted for sale and IIRC they're still HP type. The core material (aluminum-zinc SS198, harder SS190) and powder charge are the key differences between the factory including le/mil loadings.
 
How many firings do you get out of a case before the coating wears off? And I have the opportunity to buy some new RCBS dies for 5.7 are they a trouble spot or worth it?
 
The main reason for the case coating is to ensure proper feeding in the P90 magazines. Rounds won't make the 90 degree turn and feed reliably out of the P90 mags without the coating.

I know people have removed the coating and didn't have any feed issues when using pistol magazines. A good source for informations is the 57 forum. https://www.fivesevenforum.com/index.php?sid=1a82f37261e3ffa0b6f33a6778db8093
 
Is there a way to apply a new coating?
I read about the different methods of applying something to the brass. But it wears out fast. FN coating is a secret sauce. I recommend buying factory 5.7 ammo and run it 4-5 times and label their life
 
Between reloading sounding easier than I thought and the new PSA Rock pistol, this caliber looks more and more appealing.
 
Is there a way to apply a new coating?

From what I have read, the FN firearm is a delayed blowback action. High pressure delayed blowback cases have to be lubricated one way or another, just as LTC Chinn states in his book, The Machine Gun Vol IV

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Prior WW2, these mechanisms were oiled, such as

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or the rounds were manually greased, such as the rounds for the Oerlikon machine cannon.

You can see at exactly 2:14 on this WW2 video a Sailor’s hand painting grease on the 20 mm ammunition loading machine for the Oerlikon anti aircraft machine guns.



this is a deck mounted Oerlikon

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the Pedersen rifle used ceresin wax

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It is my opinion that leaving a thick layer of resizing lube on the case will provide all the lubrication necessary for proper function of a P90 PDW. Or a light grease, making sure that the neck and shoulder are greased.

this amount was more than enough to fireform 300 H&H brass
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I think the secret sauce that FN uses, is a sintered teflon coating. These clear coatings go way the heck back, as the Navy was trying to eliminate the pre greasing of the Oerlikon rounds. You can imagine, a greasy round attracts dirt, makes a red hot machine gun even smellier, and it takes time to grease rounds. I found the Navy tried all sorts of dry lubricants, including ceresin wax, and chamber flutes, before tossing in the towel and installing an oiler on the top. A bud of mine used an Oerlkon with an oiler on his river barge in Vietnam. His fellow river pirates stole the machine cannon from an Air Force base and bolted to the deck of their barge.

some of the history behind sintered teflon coatings.


Thin Films of Polytetrafluoroethylene Resin as Lubricants and preservative coating for metals, May 1958 Industrial and Engineering Chemistry. V.G Fitzsimmons & W. A. Zisman US Naval Research Laboratory

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/ie50581a033

Application to Ammunition.


Thin coating of Teflon are remarkable dry-film lubricants for cartridges. In 1951, gun firing tests using brass cartridge with one coat of clear Teflon suspensoid revealed excellent performance and freedom from gun malfunction. After much cooperative experimentation with the du Pont Co., Teflon coating were developed with excellent adhesion to brass and steel and greatly increased corrosion resistance.

Coating with satisfactory resistance to rain, humidity, and salt water spray had to comprise tow or more coasts having a total thickness of from 0.00005 to 0.0007 inch.

Exhaustive firing tests with coated steel and brass 20-mm cartridges established the superiority and greater reliability of Teflon over other lubricants. Contract pilot-scale production studies by the Army and Navy have since developed satisfactory methods for the mass production of Teflon coated cartridges.
 
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I have both a PS90 and a Five-seveN.
I do not leave any lube on mine nor do I use small base dies.
I use a set of Lee dies and a Forster Co-Ax press.
If you don't know the Forster Co-Ax doesn't use conventional shell holders.
I wasn't able to push the shoulder back enough with the Lee die so I ground down the bottom of the die a few thousands of an inch till I got the shoulder to where I wanted it.
I used a .270 bushing to measure a factory round and I used that as my reference.
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