500 smith & Wesson magnum

[demonseed34]

I have a 500 magnum. i am wondering if i can load .50 sabots or powerbelt amow for black powder the casings and the maxumum grains of powder to grain weight of bullet.

 

[rcmodel]

I'm sure you can load black powder.

If you want to strip the S&W down to the last nut & bolt every time you shoot it and wash it in hot soap & water.

Don't know about Sabot or Power-Belt bullets though as I have no idea what diameter they come in.

I think if I wanted to shoot black powder, I'd get a black powder gun.
Cleaning is to much of a PITA with a modern DA revolver.

rc

 

[mahansm]

500 S&W Magnum

1. You could go through the traditional detail strip/hot soapy water cleaning or you could use Blackhorn 209 black powder replica. This powder performs like black powder but cleans up like smokeless and is noncorrosive. It costs about twice what Pyrodex does but IMHO it's worth it to simplify the cleanup after shooting.

Please note that the container has a warning to use only with 209 (shotshell) primers.

2. If your S&W has a compensator on it you cannot use sabots, as the leading edge of the petal will catch in the compensator and remove it from the firearm.

 

[atlanticfire]

Sounds like you need a 460 to go along with your 500.....?

 

[reloadergriz]

just askin' ..what is your 'intention for this posting, target / hunting / experimenting etc;?
i own a .500 s&w also & barnes xpb's work just fine & if you're reloading , you naturally can adjust the fps/ ft lbs energy etc; .. thanks.. ( interesting idea however )

 

[demonseed34]

i was mean using muzzelloader rounds with smokelss powder like blue dot and cva,s power belt ammo that does not use a sabot it just has a plastic sleave around the back end of the bullet to catch the rifeling

 

[demonseed34]

my reson is for hunting and experimenting. i am trying to find a combo that i can shoot all day but take the same rounds out hunting and have acccuracy out to 200+ yards.

 

[reloadergriz]

Oh ok i see now .. Thanks ! ..Smokeless powder being used with a black powder bullet/ projectile .. my guess would be to 'google' it for any prior inquiries .. What is the cost factor difference between black powder projectiles and regular .500 s&w bullets in say JHP's ( with the approx' grain weight ) ? 200 yards is a healthy distance with a heavy bullet ..what length barrel do you have on your s&w 500 mag ? ( scoped ) ?

 

[reloadergriz]

The Savage ml-10 is a muzzleloader that is designed for 'smokeless' powder & shoots the projectiles you've mentioned . However , it is a rifle and not a handgun set up .. The problem i can see would be getting any kind of ballistic charts (if it's ever been done ).. I'm positive the rate of twist would be very different, notwithstanding the length of the barrels for inherent accuracy .. this is a very interesting concept , but hard cast bullets made for smokeless powder may be a better choice & are designed for your .500 s&w mag' handgun in all grain weights .. then you're not really 'gambling' ( share is care )

 

[demonseed34]

8 3/8" barrel and yess it is scoped 2 power leupold

 

[demonseed34]

i was looking at 245 grain bullet

 

[reloadergriz]

8 3/8" barrel and yess it is scoped 2 power leupold

very nice combo' indeed

 

[reloadergriz]

i was looking at 245 grain bullet

This 245 grain bullet , I've never seen one that low for my .500 mag' .. Is that (1) of your M/loader bullets you were mentioning earlier ? .. Maker ? copper / Hard cast /
& head type ? ( jhp or other ) .. interesting & thanks for your replies ..

 

[reloadergriz]

i was looking at 245 grain bullet

This Posted Twice /

 

[demonseed34]

it is a copper hollowpoint muzelloader round it is the smallest powerbelt makes for .50 muzelloader

 

[reloadergriz]

oh ok gotcha now .. so being a 245 grn , you'd prefer that over say what i had mentioned @ 275 grn JHP ? .. interesting choice, & did you figure out any span in price differential between the two mentioned above ? .. my point being that one is sorta 'iffy
and the other a definite .. I know that m/loader projectiles are usually sold in much smaller amounts naturally due to their use in what they're intended for .. I would never try to change your mind , but i think off the top of my head , that your choice of 'trying to use that particular bullet configuration might be even 'more expensive than the nice high end regular ( Barnes ) etc; ones cost .. 1st i try to understand the whole picture &
then just offer other avenues as food for thought .. you are not the first guy or gal that i've had similiar questions, just not 'crossovers from m/loader bullets to smokeless large bore handgun . please keep me informed as to your decision(s) and outcome ..
thanks much my friend ..

 

[rcmodel]

i am trying to find a combo that i can shoot all day but take the same rounds out hunting and have acccuracy out to 200+ yards.

I can guarentee you that won't happen with black powder loads.

A tightly fitted cylinder on a .500 S&W would be binding up from fouling after a couple of cylinders full of black powder loads. As would the rifling designed for jacketed bullets.
They would fill quickly with BP fouling and you coudn't hit the broad side of a barn from inside the barn after a few dozen shots.

Maybe what you need to do is trade in the .500 for a .44 Mag so you can find lighter bullets & loads for it that don't kick as hard.

rc

 

[reloadergriz]

I can guarentee you that won't happen with black powder loads.

A tightly fitted cylinder on a .500 S&W would be binding up from fouling after a couple of cylinders full of black powder loads. As would the rifling designed for jacketed bullets.
They would fill quickly with BP fouling and you coudn't hit the broad side of a barn from inside the barn after a few dozen shots.

Maybe what you need to do is trade in the .500 for a .44 Mag so you can find lighter bullets & loads for it that don't kick as hard.

rc

he actually didn't make it entirely clear with his posting .. he 'meant using b/powder 'projectiles in his .500 S&W mag handgun with "smokeless" powder .. the recoil
as you well know, can be adjusted down enough to report just like a .44 mag' , but still make that 1/2 " hole .. now 200 yds ? .. some real tinkering with the granules ( lol )

 

[rcmodel]

Oh!

Well, I had been laboring under the mistaken belief he ask about loading with black-power all this time.

Nevermind!

rc

 

[reloadergriz]

Oh!

Well, I had been laboring under the mistaken belief he ask about loading with black-power all this time.

Nevermind!

rc

yep , me too ! .. see posting # 6 above ... good info and well meaning anyway ..