DAdams
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Time
to bring the Thanksgiving decorations back out. Guess they were misplaced during the move.
to bring the Thanksgiving decorations back out. Guess they were misplaced during the move.
642 Club Part Deux
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DAdams
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OK
This here is Henrietta. Legend has she has survived the chopping block for many a year. You can probably guess why.
No one messes with she and her trusty 642. Although I hear tell she would rather have an ILS free dash one.
Y'all have wonderful Thanksgiving and get out and shoot.
This here is Henrietta. Legend has she has survived the chopping block for many a year. You can probably guess why.
No one messes with she and her trusty 642. Although I hear tell she would rather have an ILS free dash one.
Y'all have wonderful Thanksgiving and get out and shoot.
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glockman19
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jt1,
Very Nice.
DA,
I wouldn't mess with that turkey
Very Nice.
DA,
I wouldn't mess with that turkey
AStone
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<coming up for a breath of air on a working Sunday>
Club pollster partially present and somewhat accounted for.
Seriously behind on reading. Work is a monster impervious to x42 rnds.
Just have to deal with it. Light at end of tunnel, hoping it's not a train coming ...
Fine turkey gun (get it?).
Fine looking holster (I'm genuinely impressed).
More as soon as I'm able to extract myself from the jaws of the monster.
Right now, must go feed a puzzling, insatiable craving for cornbread stuffing with extra onion and sage.
(Why am I hungry for that all of a sudden? )
Hope all of you are well, or if not, moving quickly in that direction.
Nem, the overworked, underpaid self-employed,
who's thankful for a roof during this pineapple express.
Club pollster partially present and somewhat accounted for.
Seriously behind on reading. Work is a monster impervious to x42 rnds.
Just have to deal with it. Light at end of tunnel, hoping it's not a train coming ...
Fine turkey gun (get it?).
Fine looking holster (I'm genuinely impressed).
More as soon as I'm able to extract myself from the jaws of the monster.
Right now, must go feed a puzzling, insatiable craving for cornbread stuffing with extra onion and sage.
(Why am I hungry for that all of a sudden?
)Hope all of you are well, or if not, moving quickly in that direction.
Nem, the overworked, underpaid self-employed,
who's thankful for a roof during this pineapple express.
DAdams
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jt1
That is looking really nice. Do you have a machine that will handle the leather or is the old hand job awl and palm protector? Can't wait to see the finished product.
Nem
Why did you have to bring up cornbread stuffing. <drools on keyboard>.
Yep Henrietta is one badazz bird. Too tough to eat. She's been in the family dressing the table for many years.
That is looking really nice. Do you have a machine that will handle the leather or is the old hand job awl and palm protector? Can't wait to see the finished product.
Nem
Why did you have to bring up cornbread stuffing. <drools on keyboard>.
Yep Henrietta is one badazz bird. Too tough to eat. She's been in the family dressing the table for many years.
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Waldo Pepper
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Well after lerking here some I joined today. Seems like a nice place to hang out.
Got tired of the magazine hassle for my CCW and the weight of all that steel. So I bought a 642 this summer for $380 TTL NIB from local pawn & gun shop. I really like the pistol and it is so much easier to tote around and it is a true pocket gun unlike my RIA 1911 officers model or my S&W CS45 and I carry it everywhere loose in my pants. I have as yet to buy any type of holster for the pistol and in loose fitting jeans you can't tell I am packing so I have been slack at looking for one and may never get one. I have decided to get a holster bag of some kind to carry the 642, billfold, car keys, and anything else I need to carry.
At least when I practice with the 642-2 at the range I won't be hunting my brass. I have two 10mm auto's and four 45ACP pistols and it has gotten expensive to loose brass from those for sure.
Got tired of the magazine hassle for my CCW and the weight of all that steel. So I bought a 642 this summer for $380 TTL NIB from local pawn & gun shop. I really like the pistol and it is so much easier to tote around and it is a true pocket gun unlike my RIA 1911 officers model or my S&W CS45 and I carry it everywhere loose in my pants. I have as yet to buy any type of holster for the pistol and in loose fitting jeans you can't tell I am packing so I have been slack at looking for one and may never get one. I have decided to get a holster bag of some kind to carry the 642, billfold, car keys, and anything else I need to carry.
At least when I practice with the 642-2 at the range I won't be hunting my brass.
I have two 10mm auto's and four 45ACP pistols and it has gotten expensive to loose brass from those for sure. 642 Cleaning & Misfire
Hi Folks,
I'm new to this, read a lot in the forums and internet, decided on a 642-2 CT after I got my concealed weapons permit recently. So far I like it a lot. Got an array of holsters: pocket, belt, shoulder, and have been carrying daily to get familiar.
Been to the range a few times and put 300 rounds of 38 158gr FMJ and another 100 38 + P 158gr TMJ through it. Very accurate, with and without the laser at 7 yards. Cleaned it once with Hoppe's 9 and after reading all the posts have determined that is a no no. What I have picked up reading the post's is:
No ammonia!
Use Hoppe's Elite Cleaner, Hoppe's Elite Bore Gel, Break-Free CLP, and Gun Scrubber. I've seen a few Gun Scrubber products, is synthetic Safe Cleaner and Solvent/Degreaser ok?
Are all of these ok?
On my last 50 rounds of FIOCCHI 38sp 158 FMJ I had 2 misfires
. When I compare the firing pin indentation on the misfires to the successful fires, there is a definate difference, a smaller indentation. Can this happen if I hesitate in the trigger pull? I read a similar post and was wondering if you guys have seen this?
Time for a trip back to the factory?
Thanks
Hi Folks,
I'm new to this, read a lot in the forums and internet, decided on a 642-2 CT after I got my concealed weapons permit recently. So far I like it a lot. Got an array of holsters: pocket, belt, shoulder, and have been carrying daily to get familiar.
Been to the range a few times and put 300 rounds of 38 158gr FMJ and another 100 38 + P 158gr TMJ through it. Very accurate, with and without the laser at 7 yards. Cleaned it once with Hoppe's 9 and after reading all the posts have determined that is a no no. What I have picked up reading the post's is:
No ammonia!
Use Hoppe's Elite Cleaner, Hoppe's Elite Bore Gel, Break-Free CLP, and Gun Scrubber. I've seen a few Gun Scrubber products, is synthetic Safe Cleaner and Solvent/Degreaser ok?
Are all of these ok?
On my last 50 rounds of FIOCCHI 38sp 158 FMJ I had 2 misfires
. When I compare the firing pin indentation on the misfires to the successful fires, there is a definate difference, a smaller indentation. Can this happen if I hesitate in the trigger pull? I read a similar post and was wondering if you guys have seen this?Time for a trip back to the factory?
Thanks
DA - I'm doing this by hand, Dad has an old Campbell stitcher if I decide to do more than a couple but I like the look of hand work.
Waldo Pepper, soloshot - Welcome to you both. The 642 Club is a great place to be and we are happy to have you here.
soloshot - I use Break-Free CLP exclusively, you are correct about the ammonia, it will attack the clear coat. This is a good opportunity to see what other are using now as we haven't covered this in quite a while and things change. So, 642 heads what are you cleaning with and how is it working for you?
As far as the misfires go, I have not had any with live ammo and have to say that zero is the acceptable limit for a carry gun before some type of action is required. I have not used this Brand of ammo and it's possible you got some hard primers. I don't think it has anything to do with trigger pull on a properly functioning revolver. Who has used this ammo? Any problems?
Waldo Pepper - I would recommend a good pocket holster, It makes a big difference in gun presentation and protection. The recommendation is of course for a Mika round cut.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~akim/
Waldo Pepper, soloshot - Welcome to you both. The 642 Club is a great place to be and we are happy to have you here.
soloshot - I use Break-Free CLP exclusively, you are correct about the ammonia, it will attack the clear coat. This is a good opportunity to see what other are using now as we haven't covered this in quite a while and things change. So, 642 heads what are you cleaning with and how is it working for you?
As far as the misfires go, I have not had any with live ammo and have to say that zero is the acceptable limit for a carry gun before some type of action is required. I have not used this Brand of ammo and it's possible you got some hard primers. I don't think it has anything to do with trigger pull on a properly functioning revolver. Who has used this ammo? Any problems?
Waldo Pepper - I would recommend a good pocket holster, It makes a big difference in gun presentation and protection. The recommendation is of course for a Mika round cut.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~akim/
glockman19
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Waldo Pepper, soloshot
Welcome.
soloshot, I use Hopps #9 and have and NO problems with the clear coat finish on my 642 and no issues with my 442. I do apply it surgically to the barrel, chamber and cylinder ends, so it rarely touches the outside fininsh. I always give it a good coat of oil & whipe wit silicone rag. I too have had ZERO mis-fires
Welcome.
soloshot, I use Hopps #9 and have and NO problems with the clear coat finish on my 642 and no issues with my 442. I do apply it surgically to the barrel, chamber and cylinder ends, so it rarely touches the outside fininsh. I always give it a good coat of oil & whipe wit silicone rag. I too have had ZERO mis-fires
308win
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Soloshot - What do the firing pin indentations on the non-defective rounds look like and do the indentations appear uniform on the good and bad rounds? Are the rims uniform thickness on all rounds (good and bad)? Do you have another .38sp or .357 you could try the defective rounds in? If so, try them and see if they fire. Also, try the rounds again in your 642 but align them so the firing pin strikes 180 degrees more or less away from the original strike.
Regardless of the results I wouldn't carry this brand in my go-to-gun.
Regardless of the results I wouldn't carry this brand in my go-to-gun.
cpalmer777
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I have not picked up my 642 yet, but I currently clean my Beretta Px4 with Break Free CLP. It was recommended by the dealer I purchased my Px4 from. I am very pleased with Break Free CLP. By the way, I previously contacted Smith and Wesson and asked what they recommend to clean and preserve the 642 and the customer service representative suggested Break Free CLP as well. You can check out the Break Free site at: http://www.break-free.com/
Let us know what you decide.
Take care,
cpalmer777
Let us know what you decide.
Take care,
cpalmer777
642 Cleaning & Misfire
Interesting morning.....
I called S&W, asked what cleaner to use, recommended I use MPro7 and gave me their #. They said someone would call back....not yet.
Called S&W again, asked about misfire, they asked what ammo, they said don't use foreign ammo (who have different specs), use US ammo, Remington, Winchester, Federal........Also said the reason the indents on firing caps were different was due to large forces created when the good ammo fired. OK, I'll bite, run a few hundred rounds of "Made in America" and let ya know...
Also asked the second S&W guy about cleaning, he said because my 642 and soon to arrive M&P 340 were SS cyl & bore that I could carefully use Hoppe's Elite on cyl and bore only, but he recommended Shooters Choice, wasn't familiar with MPro7. So my conclusion is that there is no official response to the question other than "no ammonia". Would love to hear more from this forum on that...
I've just read so many posts about damage due to aggressive chemicals I'm gun shy on cleaning....pun...
S&W also said don't get aggressive solvents on the CT grip...makes sense
Thanks!
Interesting morning.....
I called S&W, asked what cleaner to use, recommended I use MPro7 and gave me their #. They said someone would call back....not yet.
Called S&W again, asked about misfire, they asked what ammo, they said don't use foreign ammo (who have different specs), use US ammo, Remington, Winchester, Federal........Also said the reason the indents on firing caps were different was due to large forces created when the good ammo fired. OK, I'll bite, run a few hundred rounds of "Made in America" and let ya know...
Also asked the second S&W guy about cleaning, he said because my 642 and soon to arrive M&P 340 were SS cyl & bore that I could carefully use Hoppe's Elite on cyl and bore only, but he recommended Shooters Choice, wasn't familiar with MPro7. So my conclusion is that there is no official response to the question other than "no ammonia". Would love to hear more from this forum on that...
I've just read so many posts about damage due to aggressive chemicals I'm gun shy on cleaning....pun...
S&W also said don't get aggressive solvents on the CT grip...makes sense
Thanks!
cpalmer777
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642 Cleaning & Misfire
Soloshot,
I agree, the recommendations vary from person to person (like anything else). I’m sure you will not go wrong with any of the suggestions though.
cpalmer777
Soloshot,
I agree, the recommendations vary from person to person (like anything else). I’m sure you will not go wrong with any of the suggestions though.
cpalmer777
Waldo Pepper
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Thanks for the welcome fellows.
S&W told me when I called about my CS45 to be careful about what I used to clean the pistol and recommended Break Free CLP for cleaning the pistol (mine looked like it had been stored with WD40 and was all gummed up) and then a good synthetic gun lube if possible.
Well I had been using Break Free for years with Mobil 1 oil saved from dripping of new bottles to lube the guns. I now use Mobil 1 synthetic oil in spray can and it does wonders. My CS45 had a terrible trigger that even made noise when you pulled it when I bought the gun, now it is smooth as silk and the gun shoots dead on at 10 yards.
S&W told me when I called about my CS45 to be careful about what I used to clean the pistol and recommended Break Free CLP for cleaning the pistol (mine looked like it had been stored with WD40 and was all gummed up) and then a good synthetic gun lube if possible.
Well I had been using Break Free for years with Mobil 1 oil saved from dripping of new bottles to lube the guns. I now use Mobil 1 synthetic oil in spray can and it does wonders. My CS45 had a terrible trigger that even made noise when you pulled it when I bought the gun, now it is smooth as silk and the gun shoots dead on at 10 yards.
DAdams
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This S&W guy must be living in a time warp. M&P 340s have been out for about 8 months.
When I contacted S&W about the M&P 340 DLC coating I was told "no ammonia" and use Hoppes Elite.
I use Outer Tri Care... the stuff that comes with the $9.95 cleaning kits. Pretty good on the bore if you let it soak a few minutes and then swab 3-4 times until clean.
I have used it externally on my blue steel gun, gotten it all over the plastic handle with no deletrerious effects.
I was using Outers on the exterior of the 642, now I use Elite.
I use the Kleen Bore clothes to get the front of the cylinder for the tough stuff.
My 642 is only a year old and the coating is mint.
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cpalmer777
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Crimson Trace LG 405
Hello 642 Club,
I just purchased a Crimson Trace LG 405 for a total price of $219.95 from Shooters-Resource.com. Included with the purchase is the free 75 minute "Shots in the Dark" DVD, by veteran firearms trainer Clyde Caceres. This seems to be a fair deal as far as my research indicates.
I hope this information will be beneficial to someone in the market for this product.
Thank you,
cpalmer777
Hello 642 Club,
I just purchased a Crimson Trace LG 405 for a total price of $219.95 from Shooters-Resource.com. Included with the purchase is the free 75 minute "Shots in the Dark" DVD, by veteran firearms trainer Clyde Caceres. This seems to be a fair deal as far as my research indicates.
I hope this information will be beneficial to someone in the market for this product.
Thank you,
cpalmer777
Waldo Pepper
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Why the ugly MIM trigger???
Can one get a SS trigger for our 642's?
The trigger material is my only complaint about the pistol. Why in God's name would they make such beautiful gun then stick a ugly dull MIM trigger on it for all to see?????
Can one get a SS trigger for our 642's?
The trigger material is my only complaint about the pistol. Why in God's name would they make such beautiful gun then stick a ugly dull MIM trigger on it for all to see?????
DAdams
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Ah, soloshot I understand now. I think you are going to really like the 340CT excellent choice don't forget to sign in on the 340 thread. A bunch of 340 Heads there. (thanks Mark
). Use the Hoppes Elite on the exterior according to S&W. Elite isn't very aggressive (a good thing) and I found it innefective for barrel and cylinder internals.
There is a write up on the 340 thread regarding DLC coating. It isn't much to look at, doesn't shine, you can't buff it, but it is tough and not light relective. Very stealthy. Mine is with me 90% of the time.
Welcome aboard to:
soloshot
(the great) Waldo Pepper
cpalmer triple 7s.
AStone
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Any percussionsists in the X42 house?
A couple of years ago,
I watched an interview
with a guitarist in a band.
(I think it was Aerosmith.
It was at least a metal band.)
He was asked a question about drummers.
His response ended with this statement.
(Not paraphrased, but quoted exactly.)
"Mama, don't ever let your daughter go out with the drummer."
As a drummer, I can relate to that.
But, IMO, it all depends on what "mama"
wants her daughter to experience in life.
A couple of years ago,
I watched an interview
with a guitarist in a band.
(I think it was Aerosmith.
It was at least a metal band.)
He was asked a question about drummers.
His response ended with this statement.
(Not paraphrased, but quoted exactly.)
"Mama, don't ever let your daughter go out with the drummer."
As a drummer, I can relate to that.
But, IMO, it all depends on what "mama"
wants her daughter to experience in life.
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doc540
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We give new meaning to the term, "keeping it in the pocket".
pdevi
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Got my Smithy!
I got my 442 last week and it rocks! Now I just need a carry holster. Any thoughts? Also- if I use the Break Free CLP everyone's talking up, will my bluing last? I guess I'm not sure how tough that finish is.
I got my 442 last week and it rocks! Now I just need a carry holster. Any thoughts? Also- if I use the Break Free CLP everyone's talking up, will my bluing last? I guess I'm not sure how tough that finish is.
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