7.62x54 or 8mm high cap semi auto rifles?

[hornadylnl]

I was looking through my new shotgun news and saw how dirt cheap surplus 7.62x54 and 8mm ammo is. Is there any good semi autos that are accurate, have over 10 round mags, and don't cost an arm and a leg like an m1a? I could think of the dragonov but I don't know if you can get mags that hold more than 10 rounds for them. Thinking this might be a good shtf setup. If shtf, who really cares about corrosive primers? I saw that you can get 800 rounds for a little over $60 plus I already have an almost full 400 round can I bought with my mosin. Thanks for any input.

 

[Sunray]

Nope.
"...who really cares about corrosive..." You will if the fan stays on long enough. Not a big deal anyway. There will always be a way of heating water.

 

[Harry Paget Flashman]

The Egyptian Hakim rifle is a nice semi-auto 8mm. I used to have one but gave it to my son-in-law. Only drawback to the Hakim is that it eats thumbs worse than a Garand. Nice shooter though.

 

[Hoppy590]

if you want to spend the extra money you can get a belt fed semi auto PK

 

[Eightball]

if you want to spend the extra money you can get a belt fed semi auto PK

"Extra" indeed.

The Hakim or SVT-40 are the only rifles I can think of, but they only have 10 round mags. Or maybe the FN-49?

 

[El Tejon]

How about a ZB26 from the guys in Ohio?

 

[CanonNinja]

how bout a 1919 in 8mm?

 

[El Tejon]

Sure, plenty of them about. Call Bob Landes in Ohio.

 

[hornadylnl]

Is there a website for the place in Ohio? I was just wondering if there was an economical shtf rifle in 7.62x54 or 8mm. You can't even buy components to load 223, 308, or 30/06 for the price of 54 or 8mm. Inter Ordnance lists an SSG-97 with a scope for $699 but it looks like they only have 10 round mags and they are about $25 a piece. I can buy a ton of garand clips for that. I like to have enough mags for at least several hundred rounds. Thanks.

 

[kfranz]

The Hakim or SVT-40 are the only rifles I can think of, but they only have 10 round mags. Or maybe the FN-49?

Happily for the Hakim, 25 rd. MG 13 mags can be made to work without a great deal of skill. While MG 13 mags are dirt cheap compared to say those of the G3, they are still quite reasonable.

 

[270Win]

How easy or hard is it to find and acquire a Hakim?

 

[kfranz]

Hakims are not tough to find on the secondary market. I'm not aware of any distributor with a steady supply.

 

[El Tejon]

horn, sorry I did not get back to you sooner. Hate to leave a fellow THRer hanging. Here's Rapid Fire in Troy, Ohio: http://rapidfire.targetweb.net/cgi-...53967.18334*g-0231&p_id=02091&xm=on&ppinc=big

 

[marshall3]

Just get an AK clone

The 7.62x39 is a bit less powerful, but still plenty good, and AK clones are highly reliable, and can use hi-cap mags/drums, etc. And 7.62x39 ammo isn't THAT expensive.

 

[kfranz]

And 7.62x39 ammo isn't THAT expensive

x39 is two to three times the price of surplus 8mm. Not that he shouldn't have an AK too...

 

[BLACK-N-TAN]

you can get a Romy Romak 3 in 7.62 x 54R
they run about $800-900 and come with a 10 rounder
AK type action

 

[MCgunner]

I have a Hakim I picked up just for the curiosity of it back in about 1990 when they were on the market. I gave eighty bucks for it. It's a HUGE, heavy rifle with next to no recoil, but my God, I cannot imagine having to tote this thing in battle, ROFL! I have a bayonet for it, too, just for kicks. It's fun to shoot. I buy the old 8mm corrosive stuff and clean it with military powder solvent and scrub things after every session with it. I haven't shot it in years, though. It's sort of a wall hanger.

It won't get your thumb unless you stick it in there before closing the action... I don't use stripper clips, just pull the magazine to load, safer. You can't do that with an M1. It is a very odd gas impingement action that is fun to show the uninitiated. It's also a friggin' cannon at the range. It has this recoil suppressor on it that makes it impressive to bystanders when it goes off, enough gas blowing back that I blew the hat off a shooter's head sitting beside me at a bench once when I fired it. I had got to a range with some guys from work. One of the guys had an Uzi and was rattling off at a 50 yard target with it. Well, I sat down with the Hakim and fired off 10 as fast as I could, sounded like a ma deuce compared to a M16. All eyes turned to the Hakim after that.

It's a fun gun for that sort of thing, but absolutely useless for any real world application. But, for 80 bucks, hell, why not? The only thing I regret is not having bought a Rashid when they were on the market. Not that it's a great gun or anything, but it's more rare than the Hakim, same action, smaller, and chambered for 7.62x39.

I suppose if money is no object, you could get a dragunov.