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MFL Jim McLoud

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It's sad the war has cost us 180+ billion dollars so far. It's also sad that I had to send my son Jim Jr. a scope/mount & rings for his M1A because the 101st Abn had no more.

But hell -We go our moneys worth today at least!
My kid took a target out at 775 meters :D

Shameless plugs go here:
1. Leupold Scopes - Mark 4 M3
2. Sadlak Industries - the finest M1A mounts on planet earth.
3. Springfield Armory Rep - The guy that was honest enough to inform me that Sadlak mounts were far better than the company he works for makes for holding a zero.

I'm proud of my boy, I wish I were hunting with him :evil:
Jim
 
Atta Boy!

Tell him Congratulations from all of us here. Also Kudos to you for getting him what he needed to do the job.

Our Prayers are with you both. May he come home safe and victorious!
 
You should not have to send your son anything. Contrary to popular opinion the military DOES provide what the soldier/Marine needs.

Is your son a sniper? If not he does not need what he requested.

I have spent 26 yrs. in line outfits, retired in 89', have a son who is a career Marine and he is well provided for.

The military will give you what you need. No more or no less.:)
 
Joey2 said:
You should not have to send your son anything. Contrary to popular opinion the military DOES provide what the soldier/Marine needs.
Is your son a sniper? If not he does not need what he requested.
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Try to keep in mind that you're talking to a father who was proud of being able to help his son out, and is justifiably proud of his son's accomplishments.

Now take a moment and ask yourself what you are trying to accomplish with your post.

Tell your son "good shootin" from another ex-grunt, Jim - and then tell him not to get cocky, and to keep his head down. :)
 
Joey2 said:
The military will give you what you need. No more or no less.
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I'm sure you are correct. There was obviously no need for the troops in Iraq for the first year to need body armor or up-armored Humvees. Shame on them for dying when they got shot or blown up.
 
I have a son who is on his 4th deployment to Iraq, he made the "made for TV" landing in Samolia.

I have served in Vietnam only. My experiences are based on what I experienced and what my son is experiencing.

I am a father who has been in harms way and does not to see my son go through what I went through. Needless to say he has, to an extent, and is still going to.

We had "flack jackets" in Vietnam. For the Marines it was manditory, for the army I think it was optional(?).j

If it was my call I would not have worn the Flack Jacket and bringing it up to the present I would not wear the armor provided.

This restricts your movement, tires you out,and makes you over confident

Look at how many wars were faught without this. I think we get too wrapped up in technology.

I see something wrong with the picture of so many IED's. We had the same thing in Vietnam without the number of casualties incurred in Iraq.

I think that the problem is not with more body armor as it is with 24/7 security of the routes traversed.

We (Marines), every morning, did a road sweep of before the resupply convoy came. We had OP's located along the route manned 24/7. Granted we had no remote control devices at that time, but I think that if we did the higher up would of set security around the max. range of these IED's.

All indiginous personnel living within the range of remote control devices would be relocated and a free fire zone would be set up.

So, this is my personnal opinion my flame retardend underware is on.:)
 
All BS aside. Congratulations on the great shot to your son. Thank him for me and mine for his service. Tell him to keep his head down and his ears open. Despite all the technology and whiz bang stuff...it's still the individual rifleman that gets it done on the ground.
 
If you don't mind me asking, what unit is he with? My bro is with the 101st Airborne 2/327th. Last time I asked I think he said he was stationed at Warrior.

Tell your son that is some fine shooting.
 
Tell your boy "Good job", but remind him.. Whats between his ears is the resolution, and whats in his hands is the means. Don't confuse the two. :D
 
Scope and rings, A few dollars

Shipping Overseas, A few dollars

Watching your son become a Marine, Defend Freedom and Liberty, and KICK ASS overseas, PRICELESS!
 
Leupolds are ok, but for killing rebel scum I prefer the MarkV blaster. If it's good enough for Palpatine, it's good enough for me.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the original poster, MFL Jim McLoud, has a son in the 101st abn, a soldier. A later poster, Joey2, has a son who is a marine.

If Jim sent his son an M1A mount, hs son is using it on an M14, and is likely a sniper. If the military supplied every soldier/sailor/airman/marine with everything they needed all the time, there would be no need for UCDPP. Jim's a good dad for sending his son what he needed.

So to Jim and Joey, God bless both your boys and all their buddies. :)
 
According to my bro they were assigning, or at least trying to assign, a synthetic stocked M14 with a 1.5-5x Leupold to every squad as a designated marksmen rifle. Whether this is true throughout the Army, the 101st Airborne, or just my bro's unit, I have no idea.
 
yet more thanks

Mr. McLoud: Thanks to your son and you for your service.

Mr. Joey2: Equal thanks to you and your son. I disagree with your comment.

May Mr. McLoud's son have the best equipment he can find, from wherever he can get it. I have no combat experience, but I was an electrician in the Navy for 4 years. We often did not have the supplies or equipment that we should have had. I bought quite a few of my own tools. I can only try to imagine how infuriating that must be for an infantryman with his life on the line.
 
There was obviously no need for the troops in Iraq for the first year to need body armor or up-armored Humvees.

While I generally agree with the old adage that 'something is better than nothing', how many vests without trauma plates will stop a 7.62x39 round? How well does an "up-armored" HMMWV (which, by the way, becomes less 'highly mobile' when layered with heavy armor) withstand a couple 155mm shells-turned IED?

Not that I have any better suggestions, but the argument about the body armor and lack of "up-armored" HMMWVs is making a mountain out of a molehill.

Glad your boy's out there taking care of business, Jim. 775m is one hell of a nice shot. :)
 
To all that replied -including Joey

Thanks for all the kind words-I only provided the tools,others are doing the job. My son is trained to be an Forward Observer with a Cavalry Unit-but was made a sniper along with two others by the Company Commander as his shooting skills were second to none. All three were given rifles with single screw mounts and scopes so pitted, they had to look for a clear spot in the scopes to get a shot. If that's what Joey calls no more no less-That's sad.

I also was a grunt Joey, but was too young to serve in Vietnam. Thank you for the job you did so long ago. My Brother was killed in the First Air Cavalry in 1969,and it motivated me to join as soon as I was old enough. Sadly enough, I served my country under Jimmy Carter. If you remember those years Joey - than you remember the cut backs and lack of quality tools to accomplish the job without quality equipment. The job was always completed,but at what price in later years?

I not only provided the scope/rings & mount for my kid-but also sent two other sets along with a spotting scope for the entire team :D

My customers donated a boat load of money in a collection jug,and last Christmas we raised 8,000+ dollars that was used for everything from tooth paste/shaving equipment,(good food) and candy. To date: a total of 850 lbs of good stuff has been shipped in support of B-1/32 101st Airborne Division.

Again - Thank you all for the kind words...
Jim
 
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Hats off you your son, Jim. Not only being a crunchie but airborne has always baffled me, though...to have the want to jump out of an airplane that is still working...but then, you must remember I was a DAT in the first gulf war. (read dumb-a$$ tanker).

And of course, Leupold doesn't make the kind of optics we needed for our 120's. :D


When I was in we called the 101st the "puking eagles"...do they still have that nickname?

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Congrats Jim for raising a fine son with exceptional marksmanship skills. Besides congratulating him for a fine shot, tell him thank you from all of us veterans. God Bless all our troops, and I hope he comes home soon.
 
Jim, congratulations to your son and to you for raising him right. You both have my thanks.

Joey, so is that why I spent three months in Korea dragging around a nonfunctional M249 during alerts, because there were no other functional weapons avaialable? Or how about later on in my tour when I was issued an M16 with no sling, and the supply office couldn't or wouldn't find one for me? Please enlighten me as to why my current Reserve unit has yet to issue me a full battle load. Your comment was utterly ignorant and out of place in this thread. The military is quite adept at issuing bad equipment or not having enough to go around, even in this day and age.
 
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