jerry.morry4
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Good idea.
8 Shots: Enough?
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Captain33036
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I tried reading through all the pages, and hope this is still relevant.
If this is for HD, and at those distances, and if the desire is for capacity.....then....what about the Aguilla Mini shells? They are 1 3/4" and come in 00 Buck, 7.5 bird and slugs. You can fit 12 in a Mossberg 500, 20" (8+1 normal capacity). The Opsol adapter enables these shells to be loaded and ejected without problem.
Also, you can keep the adapter in, load the tube with 12 mini shells, and put one regular shell in the chamber. That shell will eject normally and you can go on to load and shoot the mini shells.
Just 0.02. Hope this information is of use to someone. Do not think I have seen it mentioned above.
[I have no relationship with any of the companies noted above. I have used this rig at the range and it works great]
If this is for HD, and at those distances, and if the desire is for capacity.....then....what about the Aguilla Mini shells? They are 1 3/4" and come in 00 Buck, 7.5 bird and slugs. You can fit 12 in a Mossberg 500, 20" (8+1 normal capacity). The Opsol adapter enables these shells to be loaded and ejected without problem.
Also, you can keep the adapter in, load the tube with 12 mini shells, and put one regular shell in the chamber. That shell will eject normally and you can go on to load and shoot the mini shells.
Just 0.02. Hope this information is of use to someone. Do not think I have seen it mentioned above.
[I have no relationship with any of the companies noted above. I have used this rig at the range and it works great]
The shotgun is intimidating. Does that mean you are outside of cover or concealment and pointing the gun at the opponent, so the opponent can see you and talking?
While talking like that - you can be shot. When someone is posturing and flapping their lips - the opponent can draw and shoot you. If they have the gun already out, easier to shoot said blabbermouth. Seen it done and done it in FOF. "Drop the gun, get off him" - oh, dear - I think I will shoot you in your monologue and I did. "Put you hands up and drop the gun" - well, I did and then - surprise - when the opponent relaxed, I reached behind my back for an airsoft BUG and shot him in the noggin (we were masked up). Oops!
I said this before, so much internet expertise on kinetic energy and stopping power - people love this. I said, take classes or shoot matches with each HD gun and see how they actual work for you in extremis. Otherwise, the discussion is just hot air.
Did a run once in a 360 degree shoot house, with a double barreled, multiple opponents (dummies and some that could move and surprise you). We simulated being in sleep dress (use your fantasy imagination - simulated with a long t-shirt over your clothes). You had the gun and a box of shells. Now go move through it. You had to move.
Oh, here are two opponents - one shot each. Surprise - out pops a third. No time to reload - so I had to close and butt stroke him with the shotgun.
Now we also had hearing protection on.
My point is that folks are way to glib in choosing HD guns without a bit of experiential testing. Racking, intimidating, can't miss, knock you down - those are just cliches. If I had to use my 8 shot 1300, I'm capable. I would be fine with. I just think one must exam the choices in depth. Eight is enough until it isn't but can you handle the gun well in the HD situation?
While talking like that - you can be shot. When someone is posturing and flapping their lips - the opponent can draw and shoot you. If they have the gun already out, easier to shoot said blabbermouth. Seen it done and done it in FOF. "Drop the gun, get off him" - oh, dear - I think I will shoot you in your monologue and I did. "Put you hands up and drop the gun" - well, I did and then - surprise - when the opponent relaxed, I reached behind my back for an airsoft BUG and shot him in the noggin (we were masked up). Oops!
I said this before, so much internet expertise on kinetic energy and stopping power - people love this. I said, take classes or shoot matches with each HD gun and see how they actual work for you in extremis. Otherwise, the discussion is just hot air.
Did a run once in a 360 degree shoot house, with a double barreled, multiple opponents (dummies and some that could move and surprise you). We simulated being in sleep dress (use your fantasy imagination - simulated with a long t-shirt over your clothes). You had the gun and a box of shells. Now go move through it. You had to move.
Oh, here are two opponents - one shot each. Surprise - out pops a third. No time to reload - so I had to close and butt stroke him with the shotgun.
Now we also had hearing protection on.
My point is that folks are way to glib in choosing HD guns without a bit of experiential testing. Racking, intimidating, can't miss, knock you down - those are just cliches. If I had to use my 8 shot 1300, I'm capable. I would be fine with. I just think one must exam the choices in depth. Eight is enough until it isn't but can you handle the gun well in the HD situation?
Get to know your shotgun intimately, know how it runs, what it likes and 8 rounds will be more than enough. Number 4 Or 6 shot should work fine unless your rooms are over 15 yards long, then you will need the heavier loads.
Also if you have anybody living with you make sure they know the firearm.
Keep a set or two of ear muffs in your "safe room"
Let's face 8 is more than enough because we are probably never going to need any.
Also if you have anybody living with you make sure they know the firearm.
Keep a set or two of ear muffs in your "safe room"
Let's face 8 is more than enough because we are probably never going to need any.
Sistema1927
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Ok if you say so. Not going to argue the point. I just figured if it would penetrate a half inch piece of plywood the shot and the wad it would penetrate tissue. My bad I won't post anymore.
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I did not read all the post's but Remington is now making the 870DM, it come's with a 3 shot and a 6 shot magazine.
One could tape two 6 round magazines together and have 12 rounds.
Or wait for a after market mag that would take 12-15 rounds.
One could tape two 6 round magazines together and have 12 rounds.
Or wait for a after market mag that would take 12-15 rounds.
Deltaboy1984
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It handles fine since I got a open concept floor plan home!
I usually have the Ranger ammo sling hung around the bed post!
DeadFlies
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8 is probably about 7 more than you’ll need in any HD situation.
But if you want to hang a bunch of expensive, plastic doodads on your shotgun, knock yourself out. ‘Murica!
But if you want to hang a bunch of expensive, plastic doodads on your shotgun, knock yourself out. ‘Murica!
I have a 12 round capacity on my 870 I use for 3 Gun, but typically keep only half a dozen rounds of birdshot in it for home defense just to keep tension off the spring.
It's very rare that I miss a 6" steel target at about 30 feet with it so I feel confident with it.
If you're giving thought to using it as a barricade gun you can always store several rounds on a sleeve.
I kept mine in the sleeve rim down so when I flip the shotgun over to reload I can pull them straight out
It's very rare that I miss a 6" steel target at about 30 feet with it so I feel confident with it.
If you're giving thought to using it as a barricade gun you can always store several rounds on a sleeve.
I kept mine in the sleeve rim down so when I flip the shotgun over to reload I can pull them straight out
You mean a sling that attaches to the gun or bandoleer that hangs on body.
Deltaboy1984
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It can be attached to the Gun or worn over the Shoulders!
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Go big or go home: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/5...n-12-gauge-3-1-2-1-3-8-oz-sabot-slug-box-of-5
Gotta love the reviews.
"Went out for deer season and saw a 200 pound buck walk in front of me at 20 yards. Put it on his shoulder and pulled the trigger. It dropped where it stood and died seconds later. The entrance wound through the ribs was big enough to fit a 24oz can of American made pbr right in it with room to spare."
Gotta love the reviews.
"Went out for deer season and saw a 200 pound buck walk in front of me at 20 yards. Put it on his shoulder and pulled the trigger. It dropped where it stood and died seconds later. The entrance wound through the ribs was big enough to fit a 24oz can of American made pbr right in it with room to spare."
Since you asked - I make due with a six round revolver. I've never lost a minute of sleep worrying that I don't have enough rounds in the gun.
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