I am the fan of the forming die, in the beginning I purchased 30/06 military surplus cases, I did not talk about acquiring cases, I purchased them, one batch, 1,400 for $14.00 dollars, thousands of pull down NM for $.08 cents each, point being??? With a forming die, after it is paid for a case cost me no more than .08 cents each. When forming 8mm57 froim 30/06 with a forming die, trimming is accomplished with a hack saw and finished with a file. The amount of trimming when going from 30/06 to 8mm57 the formed case requires .254++ trimming each, that is 25.4 inches of trimming, with a hack saw that can be turned into short work.
When 30/06 cases are used to form 8mm57 most choose to use fired (multiple fired cases) cases, that plan has failure designed into it, when forming cases new cases should be used meaning new cases are as good as it gets and down hill from there, then there is annealing (annealing is more than just waving the case over a fire).
Then the difficult part, knowing when to quit forming, anyhow I use the companion tool top the press the feeler gage.
Then there are the failures, failures are cases that crease/fold and dent, there are those that have never formed cases claim creases/folds and dents will pop out. I had a few cases with dents and creases at the range, the shooter next to me said “Tell me you are not going to shoot those cases”, I did as he instructed, I then shot the cases and he said “I thought you said you were not going to shoot those cases” and I said “ “You told me to say I was not going to shoot those cases, so said I am not going to shoot those cases”. Most of the dents and creases in the shoulder popped out like they knew what they were doing, some did not. After returning from the range I ordered a forming die, when fire forming time is a factor.
If I had one forming die it would a 308 W, the 308 W forming die is the versatile forming die.
F. Guffey