9 MM luger & winchester 296 powder

[OKIE2]

I need some help can't find infomation on this combination.
any loads welcome.

 

[avan47]

Probably because Win 296 is not a suitable powder for loading the 9mm. Most powders have a specific range of pressures that they work best in. Usually the range is wide enough to make the powder suitable to a variety of situations. 296 is not one of those. Its range is narrow, and high. It is most suitable for use in magnum pistol loads such as 357 mag, 44 mag, etc. You could call Winchester and ask them for load data, but I don't think they have any for that combination. I think Winchester powders are now made by Hodgdon.

 

[cfullgraf]

I am pretty sure you will not find any data with that combination.

 

[hardheart]

maybe you were thinking 231

 

[Clark]

Many people say that H110 and W296 are blended to the same spec at the same place.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=589042

April 25, 2011, 12:21 AM
Clark
1970 "Speer 8" page 354 there are 9mm H110 data.
10.9 gr H110, 9mm, 125 gr Soft point 1140 fps.
When I look at the work I did when I started handloading ~10 years ago and tried to work up to brass failure with every 9mm bullet and every pistol powder, I see on some old spread sheet
CAUTION: The following post includes loading data beyond currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The High Road, nor the staff of THR assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.

[Book]9mm 1.169" 124 gr max book 10.9 gr H110
[My tests] [124 gr]Max to fit 13.8 gr H110, max tested 13.2 H110

9mm 1.169" 147 gr H110
Max to fit 13.8, max tested 11 gr

Those H110 loads are very wimpy recoil compared to what is possible with Power Pistol. Someone afraid of pressure might be interested as H110 might get the most velocity at some tiny pressure that is inside the comfort zone of some crazy perceived risk.

Ignore the post after mine by my email buddy, 500G, he is an attorney and engineer with a warped sense of humor. He gets in trouble on forums.
Ooo, I had better be careful myself, bold print does not cut and paste

 

[gamestalker]

W-296 or H110 are not powders for 9mm. That powder is a magnum pistol powder which can only be used for catridges such as .357 mag, 41 mag, 44 mag, .454 casull, and so on, you get the picture?

GS

 

[7075-T7]

In the other cartridges it's designed for a magnum primer is required as well.

 

[Hit_Factor]

I'm not sure how dense h110 is but getting 10 grains into a 9mm case may be a trick by itself.

 

[Hondo 60]

Ever hear of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole?
Not very smart

Please stay safe!

 

[gamestalker]

^^
GS

 

[50 Shooter]

You don't need a magnum primer for H-110, I've been loading it for years and never needed one. And in the .454 Casull with some scary loads, it always went off fine with a regular primer.

 

[tightgroup tiger]

Clark,
Yea, I have that data also in one of my manuals but I think I'll pass.