91/30 or m44?

[Scout Sniper]

should I get an m44 or a 91/30 to sporterize. all you purest out there I don't want to hear it, ok. I have a friend that wants this project done. I am a purest myself:banghead: , but my friend wants a sporterized Mosin so I told him I would do it for him. I was just wanting some people that have done one to give me some insight in to which is best to sporterize. thanks for all the help.

 

[hillbilly]

I am not a purist. I own a scout rifle I made myself out of an already-chopped Ishapore 2A Enfield, for example.

But I can't see any reason in "sporterizing" a Mosin Nagant.

First of all, there's almost no legal hunting ammo for it, except that really expensive Norma stuff.

Second, for what you wind up with....a bolt action rifle with a scope on it......well, there's already a LOT of really good products out there purpose built for that reason, that would do the job of a sporterized Mosin Nagant for about the same money, and would do the job a LOT better.....

Heck, get a Savage.

Get a Mossberg ATR that comes brand new with a camo synthetic stock for like $285 from the right Wal-Mart.

Unless the "sporterizing" will make something really unique out of the rifle, I don't see the reason.

But then again, I have seen lots of folks try to make luxury cars or 4WDs out of 1972 Volkswagen beetles, too.

hillbilly

 

[jobu07]

I use Wolf softpoint 7.62x54r out of my M39 in military configuration to deer hunt. I think it's 200gr stuff. Really nice ammo.

 

[Cosmoline]

What kind of sporterization? No Mosin is particularly easy to turn into a standard American hunting rifle, due to the split bridge recevier. If you're talking about a scout mount, get a Darrell's mount. It holds as tight as any welded mount and takes about ten minutes to put on. You can then take a brass hammer and tap out the front sight. Pop it in a sporter stock and you've got a scout rifle for about $100 beyond the cost of the rifle. No cutting, no fuss.

 

[El Rojo]

That is a no brainer. The 91/30 hands down. The blast, noise, and muzzle flash is so intense on a M44 or M38 that it wouldn't be a very fun hunting rifle if you ask me. I mean if you are sporterizing it, I am assuming the point is to be able to use it for hunting or target shooting. The 91/30 has much less recoil, blast, and report.

If your friend has the money (less than $200), just buy one of each. Shoot them both in stock condition, then decide which one to butcher. Keep the other one for fun.

I thought I had a M44 all this time and it turned out it was a M38. I still need to get a M44. I also wouldn't mind having one of those Finn M39's either. So many guns, so little money.

 

[Scout Sniper]

thanks, he wants a scout rifle (Foward mounted long eye relief scope, synthetic stock, that sort of thing) I tried to tell him just to buy one of the Savage package guns from WallyWorld, but he wants a Butchered Mosin:banghead:

 

[Cosmoline]

You can do that without hacking anything, like I said.

 

[R.W.Dale]

I really don't think Moisins make very good sporting arms because the saftey is very hard to disengauge especally with one hand. It's almost impossible to take one off of safe in a hurry without using both hands. That being said I would get a M44 replace thr rear sight with a reddot remove the bayonette and blast away.

 

[Cosmoline]

The safety is easy to get on and off if you do it correctly. The trick is to lock your wrist when gripping the safety and use your arm to turn it rather than trying to use your wrist and fingers alone. It's entirely possible to do it with one hand once you start doing it correctly. It's also totally silent, unlike more modern safeties that make a small "click"

 

[Third_Rail]

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[R.W.Dale]

There's a safety on MNs?

There shure is.

http://www.surplusrifle.com/mosincarbine/operations.asp

 

[Third_Rail]

I realized the stupidity of what I said as I hit "submit reply"

 

[Borachon]

M-38 or M-44.

They make good brush guns.

And if you lose them, you're only out about a buck fifty ($1.50).


Loud though....hideously loud.

 

[cracked butt]

91/30 for me. These rifles are a real joy to shoot, they balance well, and have a nice long sight radius. I can't say any of the same about the carbines.

I'm probably one of the few that really likes the mosin safety. Its not at all hard to use after a little practice and is very positive and almost completely foolproof.

 

[Cpl Punishment]

Cosmoline dead-centered it.
Get one of Darrel's scout mounts, they're inexpensive, rock solid, no butchering need be done.
Throw on an aftermarket "sporter" stock.

I would use an M38 if you just HAVE to have a sporter stock, as you'd have to destroy the barrel bands to get them off an M44, and you'd still have the bayonet lug attached to the barrel.

A 91/30 wouldn't be bad if you're not in thick brush.

Wolf makes 150-gr SP for hunting as well as the 200-gr stuff and Barnaul makes a 203-gr SP as well.
I put a scout scope (Leupold IER, yes it costs 3x what the rifle did) on one of Darrel's mounts on an M44 (but kept the issue wood stock and bayonet) and it makes a terrific hog gun, and the 203-gr Barnauls really put 'em down hard.

 

[Commissar Gribb]

The safety is easy to get on and off if you do it correctly. The trick is to lock your wrist when gripping the safety and use your arm to turn it rather than trying to use your wrist and fingers alone. It's entirely possible to do it with one hand once you start doing it correctly. It's also totally silent, unlike more modern safeties that make a small "click"

it's also a lot safer than other safeties. When the mosin safety is engaged, it's nearly impossible for a round to be accidently discharged.