9mm 1911 ,who would want one ?

Just a comment on shooting a 9mm Hi Power vs. shooting a 9mm 1911. I've been a Hi Power fan, and have shot Hi Powers longer than I've shot 9mm 1911s. I still have a Hi Power or two, but in recent years, I've shot the 9mm 1911s a lot more. Now when I take a Hi Power to the range, I immediately notice the lighter Hi Power's sharper recoil. No way around it, the 1911s heavier weight does soak up recoil. My Hi powers weigh ~32 oz., the 9mm 1911s ~40 oz., one a bit more than that. That extra half pound or so matters. The 9mm 1911's moderate recoil, with even the heaviest loads, is one of the things I enjoy about them. When I was younger and stronger, I didn't notice so much difference, but in my decrepitude, I sure notice now...
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That railed dust cover on your 1911 is most likely why it weighs more than your Hi Power. When I bought my Tisas 9mm 1911, I had a local gun shop order it for me. I wanted one without the rail but all he could find were railed versions.

I have bunch of 1911 holsters but none of them work for a railed 1911. I found that one of my Glock 19 IWB kydex holsters works:
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Same pic posted previously.
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While not 9x19, I was excited to see Browning release the .380 1911 a number of years back. Since it's a bit scaled down I was curious on it. Haven't seen one in stores in a very long time. The pricing has gone up since release. I think MSRP back then was under $700 for the base model.
 
steering wheels used to have finger grips too
Mine has palm swells :) just above where the heater elements are :)

Haven't seen one in stores in a very long time.
The inventory was probably pushed out by the "Baby Rocks"--the Rock Island/Armscor 80% sized 9x17 1911 model line. Those sold for a bit, then all the other variants came out, so the "babies" may be Out of Production right now. They show up at larger gun shows and every so often with the online sellers.

They were bigger than the compact 380s, and "weaker" than the midsize nines--that made them a complicated item to market, let alone sell.
 
Mine has palm swells :) just above where the heater elements are :)


The inventory was probably pushed out by the "Baby Rocks"--the Rock Island/Armscor 80% sized 9x17 1911 model line. Those sold for a bit, then all the other variants came out, so the "babies" may be Out of Production right now. They show up at larger gun shows and every so often with the online sellers.

They were bigger than the compact 380s, and "weaker" than the midsize nines--that made them a complicated item to market, let alone sell.

My LGS just got a new Baby Rock in a couple of weeks ago.
I had one for a while but it didn't fit my hand right or something and I found it painful to shoot so it got traded off fairly quickly.
 
I used to feel that way. Now I have 5 of them (if you count the double-stack variants.) Extremely fun to shoot, fast, accurate, cheap to feed, can shoot hundreds of rounds in a day (even self defense loads) and not be sore. No worries that it'll eventually wear out your aluminum frame.

There's a lot going for a 1911 in 9mm. Try it - you may love it.
I agree, I like the 9mm and love it in 1911 format. I carry a Ruger ec380 but with the 9mm conversion kit installed...
 
I like 1911s a lot.
Carried a Commander for ages.

Now its high cap Polymer framed 9mms (for capacity).

Wouldn't own a 9mm 1911 for anything serious.
If I wanted a range toy 9mm it'd be a Browning Hi Power.

Still want another 1911...............in 10mm, for a hunting gun.
Have not seen a new Delta Elite around for sane price (one at a show was 400 over MSRP).

Was sorely tempted on a Sig Target 1911stainless in .45 acp, if I ever did get back into that cartridge, that'd be my choice.
 
But those PW Arms import markings on the slide...
My favorite beater Israeli FN Hi Power has them on the other side of the slide. If I ever get it refinished, I'll ask them to remove the import markings.

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I wouldn't refinish that gun.
Run it as is and add more wear.

Buy a like new FN for a range toy :)
 
Going back to my Tisas Carry 1911 / 1911 Curse / Anti-1911 Rant.
My buddy ran 200 some rounds through this gun with no issues.

I just shot it again. Magazine 1:
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Magazine 2
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It's probably me and not the gun. But I can't get any other design or semi-auto handgun to fail in my hands like 1911's do.
 
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I dont think its you. I was getting a lot of exactly what you're showing there with my Tisas 9mm guns. Tuning and cleaning up the extractor was a major help there.

Dont be surprised though, if you have to keep retuning it. Thats why I was wondering if they didn't have a bad batch of extractors. Replacing the one I have with the Wilson Bulletproof extractor seems to have helped there. I haven't had to deal with it so far since.

I got one of these and its made it a lot easier. Once its set, you don't have to fiddle with it. just drop the extractor in and tighten it up. Its a lot easier to replicate or be more precise in what you're doing than trying to use the channel in the slide.

I have the "blue" one.

 
Going back to my Tisas Carry 1911 / 1911 Curse / Anti-1911 Rant.
My buddy ran 200 some rounds through this gun with no issues.

I just shot it again. Magazine 1:
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Magazine 2
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It's probably me and not the gun. But I can't get any other design or semi-auto handgun to fail in my hands like 1911's do.
My 1911’s have been great as far as reliability goes.

However, if my shooting buddy is firing them it’s almost a certainty that he will experience a stoppage.

Why? I have no idea. Maybe limp wrist, maybe he’s hitting the slide stop, maybe he’s pressing in on the slide stop on the ejection port side. Not sure, but he’ll do it almost every time.

And he can shoot Glocks, berettas, and all manners of Sig pistols with no trouble.
 
Going back to my Tisas Carry 1911 / 1911 Curse / Anti-1911 Rant.
My buddy ran 200 some rounds through this gun with no issues.

I just shot it again. Magazine 1:
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Magazine 2
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It's probably me and not the gun. But I can't get any other design or semi-auto handgun to fail in my hands like 1911's do.
I think you’re on to something. If your buddy can shoot 200 flawless rds through it— it’s not the gun.

Why? I have no idea. Maybe limp wrist, maybe he’s hitting the slide stop, maybe he’s pressing in on the slide stop on the ejection port side. Not sure, but he’ll do it almost every time.

As @md7 notes above, there are many possibilities…
 
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Well hold up, is that 200 rounds then handing it off to you and then it double feeds or failure to extract?
 
Going back to my Tisas Carry 1911 / 1911 Curse / Anti-1911 Rant.
My buddy ran 200 some rounds through this gun with no issues.

I just shot it again. Magazine 1:
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Magazine 2
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It's probably me and not the gun. But I can't get any other design or semi-auto handgun to fail in my hands like 1911's do.
I had an issue with my Tisas B9 not extracting well. A Wilson Combat extractor fixed it.
 
I was looking for something else and came across this in my endless list of stuff I usually never go back to. :)

I haven't seen him posting recently, but Steve in Allentown, who is a member here is very knowledgeable about the 1911's and had posted this up about the extractors when I was first fooling with my Service model Tisas. Its well worth the read, and I did follow some of it when it came to breaking some edges on the hook and fitting the extractor.

Maybe drop him a line if he's still around and he can maybe point you in the right direction.

 
I was looking for something else and came across this in my endless list of stuff I usually never go back to. :)

I haven't seen him posting recently, but Steve in Allentown, who is a member here is very knowledgeable about the 1911's and had posted this up about the extractors when I was first fooling with my Service model Tisas. Its well worth the read, and I did follow some of it when it came to breaking some edges on the hook and fitting the extractor.

Maybe drop him a line if he's still around and he can maybe point you in the right direction.

Wish I’d found that article when I was having extraction problems. I pretty much found all of that info by watching 50 youtube videos about extraction problems, differences between 45 ACP and 9 MM extractors and tuning extractors.

After watching several videos about tuning extractors, I realized the Wilson Combat extractors came with most of those modifications already done. It looks a lot different than the standard Tisas extractor.
 
I didn't use a death grip on the Tisas 1911 and that may be my issue. The rest of the rounds in each magazine fired fine.
 
I was looking for something else and came across this in my endless list of stuff I usually never go back to. :)

I haven't seen him posting recently, but Steve in Allentown, who is a member here is very knowledgeable about the 1911's and had posted this up about the extractors when I was first fooling with my Service model Tisas. Its well worth the read, and I did follow some of it when it came to breaking some edges on the hook and fitting the extractor.

Maybe drop him a line if he's still around and he can maybe point you in the right direction.

When Steve in Allentown talks 1911’s, I just stop talking and start taking notes.

Very knowledgeable.
 
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