9mm 1911 ,who would want one ?

While not 9x19, I was excited to see Browning release the .380 1911 a number of years back. Since it's a bit scaled down I was curious on it. Haven't seen one in stores in a very long time. The pricing has gone up since release. I think MSRP back then was under $700 for the base model.

I have one, it's a great shooter. It's very lightweight and has mild recoil. Pictures do not convert the reality of how much smaller and lighter it is than a "real" 1911.

But boy howdy did the get costly.
 
I didn't use a death grip on the Tisas 1911 and that may be my issue. The rest of the rounds in each magazine fired fine.

People will say "limp wristing" but it's really not so much a problem at the wrist as it is at the elbow.

If the gun stays in place under recoil, it can have muzzle rise and function. If the gun moves to the rear it takes away from the energy of the slide movement and can short cycle giving you failures to eject.

This is why you often see 1911's work when fired strong hand only but not when fired with two hands. The elbow is locked tighter SHO and while there is more muzzle flip the gun works because there is less/no rearward movement.

As a bandaid, a lighter recoil spring may help as it will let the slide move faster to the rear. OTOH, the lighter spring may not have enough force to fully return to battery. YMMV.
 
People will say "limp wristing" but it's really not so much a problem at the wrist as it is at the elbow.

If the gun stays in place under recoil, it can have muzzle rise and function. If the gun moves to the rear it takes away from the energy of the slide movement and can short cycle giving you failures to eject.

This is why you often see 1911's work when fired strong hand only but not when fired with two hands. The elbow is locked tighter SHO and while there is more muzzle flip the gun works because there is less/no rearward movement.

As a bandaid, a lighter recoil spring may help as it will let the slide move faster to the rear. OTOH, the lighter spring may not have enough force to fully return to battery. YMMV.

I'll keep that in mind - locking elbows / one hand shooting, next time I shoot it. Thanks.
 
Took one of my dirt-cheap 9mm 1911's to the range on Thursday. Ran a box of cheap off-brand ammo through it. Still no problems.

I shoot them with cheap ammo, clean them poorly, and my shooting skills are marginal at best.

Kinda jealous that I can't get them to malfunction like some of y'all. :(
 
It's probably me and not the gun.
That's screaming "extractor" to me.
And the geometry of the way an extractor fits in a 'stock' 1911 can vex.

A thing you could try is to slip the firing pin stop off. Then, fish the extractor out say 10-15mm. Basically just enough to where you can get ahold of the notch. Then rotate the thing the teeny-tiniest bit counter-clockwise (this will be way less than a millimeter). Your test will be if the firing pin stop still slides in. The notion her will be to have it "bind" just a bit.

The idea is to present a skosh more extractor at the top aspect of the breech (and to be "out of the way" at the bottom).

It's a 'solution' that will likely "shoot itself" out of that alignment. But, if that works, it will suggest how to approach a more permanent solution.

Now, if "clocking" the extractor does not clear things up, that gets more complicated quickly. As those photos suggest poor or no engagement, which, in the worst case could be a mis-aligned extractor boring. Which is not a simple fix.
 
I don't know if a 9mm 1911 would be good to have or not...and in fact I don't think I've ever seen one. Everything I've seen (and own) runs .45 ACP.
 
I picked up a Kimber Stainless II in 9mm last year, very accurate with most any 124 gr. NATO but doesn't care for el cheapo 115 gr. Blazer. Normally wouldn't have looked at a Kimber but my LGS had a deal I couldn't pass up.
Mine works fine with Kimber factory mags, Chips, Wilson Combat and Mecgars. Mecgars are the best bang for the buck IMHO and I like the little ramp cut into the front groove of the mag body.

If I could only own one 1911 I's stick with my Colt but what's the fun of that?

First 9mm 1911 I bought was a RIA GI many years ago, not super accurate but didn't care what it got fed so good enough with cheap range ammo. Ran fine on Checkmate mags.

.38 Super has always interested me but I don't reload anymore so 9mm is kind of a budget alternative...

I've had a pair of those Hogue grips pictured above, probably a good fit for big hands but too chunky for me. If you just want a pair of grips that cover the front strap try Pachmayr or Colt Delta Elite grips, I run both and they've very slim...
 
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I wish now instead of getting the Springfield XDM Elite 9mm I would have bought the Springfield 1911 Loaded Target model in 9mm I changed my mind at the last moment because the XDM was on sale. I like the XDM but I just like 1911’s better I have 3 - 1911’s, 2 in 45 acp one in 38 super my next 1911will be in 9mm.
 
I picked up a Kimber Stainless II in 9mm last year, very accurate with most any 124 gr. NATO but doesn't care for el cheapo 115 gr. Blazer. Normally wouldn't have looked at a Kimber but my LGS had a deal I couldn't pass up.
Mine works fine with Kimber factory mags, Chips, Wilson Combat and Mecgars. Mecgars are the best bang for the buck IMHO and I like the little ramp cut into the front groove of the mag body.

If I could only own one 1911 I's stick with my Colt but what's the fun of that?

First 9mm 1911 I bought was a RIA GI many years ago, not super accurate but didn't care what it got fed so good enough with cheap range ammo. Ran fine on Checkmate mags.

.38 Super has always interested me but I don't reload anymore so 9mm is kind of a budget alternative...

I've had a pair of those Hogue grips pictured above, probably a good fit for big hands but too chunky for me. If you just want a pair of grips that cover the front strap try Pachmayr or Colt Delta Elite grips, I run both and they've very slim...
I have a RIA GI in 38 super it is very accurate and the barrel is ramped it eats anything I feed it but 125 grain Rim Rock LRN are just super accurate. I would not hesitate at all to buy another RIA.
 
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I'm kinda partial to the appearance of Pachmayers on my Springer.

Me too; I like them even more if I can get them with the Colt medallions (gold colored if possible), on them instead of the Pachmayr medallion. I also cut away the piece that goes across the front grip strap. Makes the gun feel too wide to me. Other than that I find the Pachmayrs to be comfortable and really good at maintaining a solid grip on the gun without feeling too sticky.
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I have been playing with 1911's since the mid 70's. All I ever shot was 45ACP until last year when I bought a Dan Wesson Pointman PM-9. I love shooting the thing. My Dan Wesson Guardian in 38Super is my favorite. I have two Fusion Freedom series 1911's in 45ACP that have been running flawlessly so I decided to order a Fusion Riptide in 9mm. The 9's are easier to shoot for my old, arthritic body, but I ain't getting rid of the 45's and plan to buy a Bul Commander one of these days.
 
Cornhusker77
Me too; I like them even more if I can get them with the Colt medallions (gold colored if possible), on them instead of the Pachmayr medallion. I also cut away the piece that goes across the front grip strap. Makes the gun feel too wide to me.

I used a set of those for awhile but without medallions. I cut the front strap off of mine too for the same reason. I just liked the wood grips better.

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Every 1911 I own is in .45 until recently. I ventured down the 9mm 1911 rabbit hole with a Colt Competition for range time. Darn fine weapon and she runs well. .45 21 bucks plus a box vs 11 bucks a box for range fodder is a no brainer for todays market...
Dang, much better prices wherever you are vs illinois!

Best I can find for 45 brass is 27/50 before tax. 9mm 14-16/50
 
A full size, 5", Gov't Model 1911 in 9mm is an absolute delight to shoot...and while some would opine that it's too heavy for all-day carry...it's still a lot of fun on an informal range day.

I found a Series 70 Colt over 30 years ago, & had a local smith tune up the Colt barrel with Wilson bushing, upgrade the trigger, fit a new link and replace the sights with some Novaks IIRC.....It resulted in a truly lovely piece and a real gong ringer out to 50 yds. I'll try to get a pic of it posted after the eclipse this PM.

It's always been a favorite with family and friends of the 1911. In my hands, it feels as good as my BHP's and will outshoot both Brownings but not the Springfield SA-35 I picked up earlier this spring. The stocks, BTW, were a Christmas present two decades ago from one of my sons, then in his twenties.
Best Regards, Rod

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