wankerjake
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Hey guys, I've been wanting an AR and I think I want one in 9mm. Recently people have told me this is ridiculous and the AR platform is wasted on a 9mm, but I have to disagree. The Pro's over .223, as I see it:
1. I'm already set up to reload 9mm
3. Straight walled pistol cases are WAY easier to reload and it will be cheaper to shoot/reload for.
3. This is not really for hunting or for home defense. I may plug some coyotes at close range with it, but mostly it's to shoot for fun. It will be kept in the safe, I have a handgun and a shotgun for primary home defense.
4. As far as man-stopping power goes (which is a very debatable can of worms), it is my belief that with the slightly improved ballistics of 9mm out of a longer rifle barrel is adequate for property defense or close range combat (inside 100 yards) should zombie day happen or whatever. Not friggin likely in my opinion.
5. If I don't like it, I can sell it or buy/trade for an upper in .223.
Others have told me though that the 9mm cartridge in the AR platform is a "waste of a platform." This is the best argument I've heard, which to me is bunk. If you look at what I'm using it for, I think 9mm makes sense for me. Also my understanding of the goal of the platform is a semi-auto compact rifle with good maneuverability, in which case the 9mm cartridge would sacrifice very little to the .223 caliber, except at longer ranges. I am, however, pretty inexperienced when it comes to the platform.
So really this is two questions; 1. Is my reasoning for 9mm semi-sound? 2. Is this a good deal? I think it's at least decent form what I've seen. I appreciate any imput.
The deal:
Bushmaster lower with Olympic Arms upper 11 ½" Shilen SS barrel with permanent flash hider. No special buffer tube, pull the upper and the block and the lower is ready for a 223 upper. Lower has drop in Hahn block for easy mag change. Includes Hakko Tacpoint red dot sight, BUI sight, 4 unmodified Sten mags and 1 modified Sten mag $750
1. I'm already set up to reload 9mm
3. Straight walled pistol cases are WAY easier to reload and it will be cheaper to shoot/reload for.
3. This is not really for hunting or for home defense. I may plug some coyotes at close range with it, but mostly it's to shoot for fun. It will be kept in the safe, I have a handgun and a shotgun for primary home defense.
4. As far as man-stopping power goes (which is a very debatable can of worms), it is my belief that with the slightly improved ballistics of 9mm out of a longer rifle barrel is adequate for property defense or close range combat (inside 100 yards) should zombie day happen or whatever. Not friggin likely in my opinion.
5. If I don't like it, I can sell it or buy/trade for an upper in .223.
Others have told me though that the 9mm cartridge in the AR platform is a "waste of a platform." This is the best argument I've heard, which to me is bunk. If you look at what I'm using it for, I think 9mm makes sense for me. Also my understanding of the goal of the platform is a semi-auto compact rifle with good maneuverability, in which case the 9mm cartridge would sacrifice very little to the .223 caliber, except at longer ranges. I am, however, pretty inexperienced when it comes to the platform.
So really this is two questions; 1. Is my reasoning for 9mm semi-sound? 2. Is this a good deal? I think it's at least decent form what I've seen. I appreciate any imput.
The deal:
Bushmaster lower with Olympic Arms upper 11 ½" Shilen SS barrel with permanent flash hider. No special buffer tube, pull the upper and the block and the lower is ready for a 223 upper. Lower has drop in Hahn block for easy mag change. Includes Hakko Tacpoint red dot sight, BUI sight, 4 unmodified Sten mags and 1 modified Sten mag $750