9mm For $500 give or take

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Not only the SR9, but what about the P89? Not the easiest gun to conceal (though it is possible), but a perfectly satisfactory and accurate service pistol, and it is cheaper new than the average Glock is used. There are a lot of good choices, but it would be foolish not to at least consider the P89.

Having said that, there are a good number of excellent pistols in his price range, Glocks and XD's being among them. I am not sure why you thought that's all we would recommend, but you were right to assume that they would be among the guns recommended.
 
CZ-75B. I just got one NIB from Academy for $439 OTD. So far it's been reliable accurate and conceals great for a 2+ pound full size pistol.
 
Don't push your friend into a gun he doesn't want to buy. Seriously. A friend of mine did that to me with my first pistol - a USP .40S&W - and I wish he hadn't, because I didn't really care for it.

At least if he gets something else and then decides it was a bad choice, he can rationalize "hey, my friend was right". If you push a Glock or XD on him, he might think that even the "good" gun is poor advice, if he doesn't like it, and then he'll be out a sizable chunk of change.

Cost is big to him obviously, but to combat that, I'd say to him: ammo is pretty damn pricey too. In the case that he doesn't really want to shoot, just wants something for defense, a cheap gun wouldn't matter all that much, if at all, and his money would certainly be better spent on ammo.

There are also always used Glocks and XDs, easily acquirable.

Personally, I'd suggest he get a CZ75. It's right under the $500 price mark, shoots like a dream (by all accounts), and has a $300 .22LR upper available in case he wants to train, on the -very- cheap using the same platform.

After all, becoming proficient with a carry-sized weapon is not the kind of thing most people find all that enjoyable, and it can make becoming good difficult.

If for some silly reason, he's set on getting a plastic pistol, I'd say look at the Taurus PT111* or the 24/7, Sigma, XD, and Glock, in that order. Maybe bump the XD up, if S&W is still offering the free holster + extra mags deal. IMO, Glocks are a wee over priced, as their cost has gone up disproportionately to what they offer, and what the competition costs/market increases. Good pistols, well made, etc. just a bit over priced (and I personally don't like the grip rake angle, but that's preference).

* I carry a Taurus PT111 Pro, 2nd Series (stainless slide). It's a 9mm, and I got it for $320 about 4 years ago; the current, 3rd Series pistols seem to sell for about the same as the 2nd Series did then, so he can expect to find a blued version (polymer grip) for $300, give or take. It is, IMO, as cheap as you get without too many serious compromises in shootability, providing a good "enjoyable to shoot"/economicality/effective compromise. I've only had one problem with feeding/extraction, and that was with some really gummy/crappy ammo in cold weather (Blazer Brass - total crap). Other than that, it's put about 1200 rounds down field w/o any malfunctions.

I highly recommend the current Taurus Millennium (PT111) 9mm pistols. Their triggers are, IMO, nearly as, or just as those found on Glocks and cost half as much. The double-stack magazine (12+1 rounds) is not nearly as blocky or obtrusive as other similar designs, and fits the hand quite nicely.

(I've got a write-up here describing the differences between the different PT111 Series pistols; take a read so that if you point your friend to them, you'll know what to point him to).

Anyway, take him to the range and have him try some of your guns, and at least provide him with some options.
 
Having said that, there are a good number of excellent pistols in his price range, Glocks and XD's being among them. I am not sure why you thought that's all we would recommend, but you were right to assume that they would be among the guns recommended.
I knew that they would be in the "most recomended" category is what I meant. Especially Glocks. I also knew that through the experience of people here, there would be more good recomendations than the guns I have experience with. I appreciate all of the information and I am sure my buddy will too.
More information never hurts. If he decides that he still wants a Ruger, then that is fine with me- and even if it wasn't he is the one who has to be happy with it. I hear the advice along the lines of "stay out of it" lol. I am trying to tread lightly. I just wanted to help him gather good information and make sure his choice is based on good information, not hearsay or looking at price alone.
 
If your friend is seriously considering carrying this gun, you may want to encourage him to consider a polymer model. I really like my all-steel CZ 75bd, but I doubt that I'll ever carry it due to its weight.

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I would second the Taurus Mil-Pro series as an option, for very reasonable cost. I've got a 2nd gen Taurus Mil-Pro 40 DAO that has been flawless. Its very accurate for a compact pistol, the trigger is has a smooth, even pull, of about 8 lbs and mine has been 100% after well over 1500 rds. I would definitely put one of these on the list, I'm very happy with mine.:D
 
Have your friend look at the Sig P6/P225. It is a 9 round 9mm German Police turn in that is available from Dans Ammo for $299 plus shipping. Comes with two magazines, holster and cleaning kit. I bought one and am very happy with it, it shoots well and is more accurate than I am. http://www.dansammo.com/
 
knew that they would be in the "most recomended" category is what I meant. Especially Glocks. I also knew that through the experience of people here, there would be more good recomendations than the guns I have experience with.

Well, since I like being contrary, the only reason I put Glock on my list was because it's readily available and magazines are pretty cheap, which means he'd have the ability to get as many of those fairly cheaply.

However.

Not only is the Glock designed in such a fashion to make it fundamentally unsafe (you've got to pull the trigger to take the slide off - damn near every ND-related injury I've heard of has been because of this specific problem), but they're ugly as sin, priced high for what they are (compared to the competition - you're basically paying for the Glock name/gunshop commando/mall ninja operator reputation), are horribly square (ie they cheaped out on the slide construction), and have a non-standard grip angle that is unnatural to most shooters (that is, he'll have to completely re-train his reflexes/holding position if he wants to buy a non-glock).

Really, the only reason (IMO) to buy a Glock is if you specifically prefer the grip angle (some do, I acknowledge that), you work with one (ie on a police force), you're already familiarized with the platform or you have some other reason (ie, Glock magazine commonality with a carbine).

Even if the cost of an XD and Glock were identical or the glock was a little cheaper, I'd still say "get the XD".

That's just my .02 American; take it for what it's worth.
 
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