A different J-frame

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I got a chance to shoot my new (to me) Model 60-10. It's a 3", full lug, adjustable sight .357Mag. It has no lock, but does have MIM internals. At least it's roll-marked instead of laser engraved.

I had to cut my range trip short, so I didn't unlimber my Federal 125gr JHP Crack-of-Doom loads, but it was right pleasant with cowboy-level .38's. I replaced the long Hogue finger-groove grip with a shorter set that looked more "Square-buttish". It made me smile, looking like a pre-pubescent 686.

I've not had or handled many 3" J-frames, so this was new to me. I have a 4" M63 kit gun, but it wears the original Magna grips. Totally different feel for the M60. I think I'm gonna like it, a lot. Now I've got to get John O'Rourke to make me a holster for it. This may well be my light field revolver, if it proves to be reasonably accurate for me.
 
Stainless J frame Magnums are great little revolvers. I have a Stainless M640 which is a joy to shoot. You made a good choice IMO, enjoy!
 
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It has no lock, but does have MIM internals.
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And the MIM is somehow a lesser grade then others, I suppose? I've heard this insinuated degradation from a few ppl regarding MIM parts, and I, personally, disagree. I'm glad you are happy with your new piece, but don't give it any concious/subcouncious doubt that it is not as good quality as non-MIM internal S&W's.
 
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Just as pinned and recessed is "more desirable" than the current design, forged internals seem to be more desirable than the MIM parts. I'm also glad it's roll marked and not laser engraved. If I could wave a magic wand and have pre-MIM parts, I would, but I'm also reasonably sure I'll be well served with what I have.
 
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Just as pinned and recessed is "more desirable" than the current design, forged internals seem to be more desirable than the MIM parts. I'm also glad it's roll marked and not laser engraved. If I could wave a magic wand and have pre-MIM parts, I would, but I'm also reasonably sure I'll be well served with what I have.
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I understand the p&r as being "more desirable" then those that 'are not' part, and agree. That was/is perceived to be from a time when the craftsmen put extra attention to detail. It was stopped due to the realization it was unnecessary and improved assembly techniques could be utilized.
 
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Sparkyguy, S&W didn't go to MIM parts because they were better, they adopted them because they are GOOD ENOUGH, and cheaper to produce. I PREFER forged internal parts.
 
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I never said they were better, but give me an instance where they are worse and one can tell the difference? When have you ever seen something MIM break or cause problems? I'll save you the trouble, you don't but you'll never know the difference between the two. I, personally, base my opinions on facts and experience. You can base yours on others opinions and hearsay all you want. It just bothers me when ill-informed opinions are perpetuated over and over because ppl believe everything they read. Peace out.
 
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Sparkyguy, I am not a professional gunsmith, but I have a couple of books and videos on the S&W action job, tweaking, etc. I have read a bit about the injection-molding process. I have closely examed the MIM parts with a magnifying glass. I can HEAR a difference in the sound of the these parts being dry-fired. If you have something to offer by way of technical explanation as to any advantages (other than cost to manufacture) of the MIM parts, feel free to offer them here.
 
OMG!

When did I say MIM was better? Again, I'll save you the time..I DIDN'T! CFS!! I said it was NOT WORSE, and that you COULDN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE(at least not in performance of the weapon). I'm sure you can get out your little magnifying glass and observe the difference in appearance,.... bravo.
I have a 70's era S&W mdl 64 that is forged internals. I also have a 90's era S&W 686 with MIM internals. Upon reading your last reply, I checked they were unloaded(natch) and listened while dry-firing. Result? NO DIFFERENCE!!! I've stated what I wanted(more so, in fact) and only wanted to make a point as the MIM internals of the S&W's are as good as older forged. Disagree? Fine by me.
 
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My position was that MIM parts were being downgraded by some as inferior and made the weapons they occupied lesser in quality, which is bunk. I never said MIM was better, nor that they didn't make MIM parts because they were cheaper(they did), just that they(MIM) were as good as what they replaced. Ok, now let's hear from the next yokel and his dazzling display of dimentia.:p
 
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There are plenty of pictures of failed MIM parts available.

What percentage of all MIM parts that represents...that is subject to conjecture.

How many similar (pre-MIM) parts failed in a like manner...also subject to conjecture.

Please, folks, signal to noise ratio....
 
sparkyguy, it must be something about SE Pa, I agree with the the others and think that MIM parts are a degradation of the gun. They are cheaper and do not have the Quality and strength as a good forged part.
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I never said MIM was better, nor that they didn't make MIM parts because they were cheaper(they did), just that they(MIM) were as good as what they replaced. Ok, now let's hear from the next yokel and his dazzling display of dimentia
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and that is very degrading in regards to the membership of THR, knock it off!
 
The failure of schools in this country is astounding to me. Ok, now let's hear from the next yokel and his dazzling display of dimentia.
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Glad to oblige.

Dementia.

You're welcome.

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Rudeness on The High Road will not be tolerated.

Further argumentative personal attacks will not happen.

Please continue this thread as the original poster intended.
 
Hutch, John Makes Some Nice Holsters, And I Am Sure You Will Love Your J Frame, I Only Have One At This Time A 1967 Mod 36 Nickel Sq Butt, It Is A Sweet Carry Gun, Csa
 
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