A gun that knows shooter's grip

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what will happen when they start pluging windows '95 into them.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good one Cowboy! I can see the headline now: "Bill Gates monopolizes the firearms industry."

I want to be the first one, if it gets marketed publicly, to shoot it...........into a gazillion @#$%ing pieces!!! :cuss:

Let's just remember: that grant money is your tax dollars and mine going to work.

-38SnubFan
 
Some things,such as aircraft and industrial processes, have become so complex they have to be monitored by computers. But a gun...??? :confused:
 
I think all the local Police forces should be required to install the equipment right now, starting with the bodyguards for all those politicians. That will give a good test sample.

Geoff
Who wants the police to pay for there desire to disarm the People. :fire:
 
Here's the list of conditionss I came up with when debating a liberal one time that must be true before I would consider purchasing one:
My requirements for such a system:
1. No batteries required, no electricity what-so-ever, able to function after an EMP pulse.
2. Be able to accomodate an unlimited number of users, and learn a new user within 5 seconds without a special tool or device (including a computer), once learned, the user must always be remembered
3. Go from safe to shoot in under 0.5 seconds
4. Be usable with heavy or latex gloves; burned, bloodied or wet hands; with missing or disabled digits; one-handed; and by either the left or right hand.
5. Require no physical token be implanted in or worn or carried by the user, no rings, no bracelet, no necklace, etc.
6. Add no weight to the firearm.
7. Be useable by any individual, from an 8yo girl to a 25yo male, to a 75yo grandmother with arthritus.
8. Must be functional from -40F to 120F, in snow, ice, sand and water.
9. Must be installed on all weapons used by the FBI Hostage Rescue Team, my local SWAT team and the SRT force at my Post.
Once all 9 conditions can be met, then I'll consider purchasing one.

He never responded to that list of conditions. :evil:
Kharn
 
10. Reliability meets USDOJ reliability standards for duty firearms and the Sandia National Labs reliability standards for personalized firearms in three independent tests, one to be conducted and supervised by the NRA.

11. Fail-safe. Failure of the system leaves the firearm fully functional so that the owner can defend him/herself in an attack.

BTW, Kharn, I wrote to the perpetrator of this technology at NJIT (Stephen Seidman) and asked him whether the "smart" guns would meet the USDOJ and Sandia testing standards. No reply, of course... :rolleyes:

- pdmoderator
 
Let's not kid ourselves here. New Jersey's smart gun law was crafted in order to ban all handguns. The proposed gun being created by Metalstorm (in Australia) has "pre-loaded barrels" and will likely not be able to be used for practice without having to order another barrel (at least as far as I can tell from reading their site). Don't ever plan on taking this gun to the range; reloading it will be prohibitively expensive.

I hope that none of you think that this measure, which is being backed by politicians such as Senator Frank Lautenberg, is designed for anything other than making it difficult for ordinary people to own handguns. The fact that the police refuse to have any part of this is very telling.

As far as NJIT is concerned, I was looking at them for finishing my EE degree. Unfortunately at this point in time I have serious ethical concerns with regard to studying in their EE program. It's a shame. They're not developing the smart gun for "the good of humanity" or some such nonsense, they're developing it because the State of New Jersey is paying them to develop it because they've got an excuse to ban all handguns once it comes out. There is no other reason.

I would have no problem with this device being developed, experimented on, or what-have-you if it was later marketed as an optional device. But you know and I know that the high price tag and obvious safety concerns, in addition to the fact that you probably won't even be able to train with it, would make buying one difficult to justify. The fact that it's being developed specifically so that it can be used as a pivot to take away all other guns is about as morally and ethically wrong as you can get.
 
If they got it working great they could put it into car steering wheels.

Then car thieves would have to come equipped with a tow truck to be successfull. :D
 
Even they say it doesn't work yet.

Eventually somebody will come up with a way to do it. The only question is when.
 
Even if it does work flawlessly I wont have it, period.

It will be designed with a failsafe that would allow the "Good guys" to shut off the weapon, it'd be real easy.
Look at how they can open your car locks and that kind of thing with Car Star, a simple remote switch would be no big deal.

jojo
 
That's true.

But the real impact would be in non-gun related things. A briefcase that would only open for the user, etc.

If it was proven secure and reliable, then you'd wind up with all sorts of applications outside of guns.

In reality it probably would wind up driving prices higher for non-equipped guns, making collectors happy.

Win-Win situation. :)
 
For all the politicians to test that think this is such a great idea . . . .

How about one equipped with a retina scanner, located right under that big hole in the front? :D

It could be made just like a tac light! Just don't push the wrong button.
 
Nehemiah Scudder,

Mounting this recognition system into a car, now that's a great idea!

Even if it's only on the driver's side, it'd be neat to be able to just grab the door handle an open the car. You then start the car & drive. Unless a "valet code" is entered, a stranger can't drive the car.

Advantages over trying to mount this system into a gun:
1. Larger base. You don't have to try to make the system particularly small.
2. Power. You already have a generation system and large battery.
3. Generally not critical: You'd still have a key to operate it, won't you? :rolleyes:
4. Doesn't suffer the extreme shocks of a firearm
5. Integrates into other alarm/security systems. Some paranoids might not like it, but a simple call from an Onstar type service asking you a question to verify that it is you operating the vehicle if the system is overridden isn't bad. Multiple people can be added easily.
6. All the annoyances would make people aware of just how bad it can be. When they get it good enough, then concerned people can weigh the odds. The guy with toddlers/young children can have one. The gun range buys standard anybody can shoot. The cops get them and love them(All cops cleared for all guns?). Remember - there are (rare)times when you're better off not wearing a seatbelt in an accident, but on the whole you're far better off, so everybody wears them.

"Built into the Magazine" Say goodbye to < $20 normal cap magazines.
 
I think there is a car with technology like that already. I don't remember what kind, but it was one of the real expensive types, and in the commercial, the guy just strides up to his car, and wraps his fingers around the door handle, fingertip pressing against a little pad. The door pops open, and the car purrs to life. Vroom vroom.

~Slam_Fire
 
They plan to put the computer into the magazine??!! Dang, that's where I like to put cartridges. So we get a 3-shot Pentium 7 handgun magazine that costs $400, and you can carry as many on your belt as you can afford. But which one actually has the memory for YOUR hand?

Bart Noir
 
I might've confused a few people WRT NJ. For those that don't know, the short story is that after a set period of time after the "smart gun" comes out, all other handguns are banned from purchase or transfer in the state. The only thing they aren't doing is confiscating existing handguns.
 
According to Popular Science, the NJIT is "close to perfecting" this smart gun. Failure rate in the labratory is only 1 in 100! :rolleyes:

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/techno...73317e40d3a48010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html

So is it really true that once this becomes "viable" transfers of all non-equipped handguns will be banned in New Jersey? Talk about a sneaky, backdoor ban--that is outrageous, and has to be stopped.
 
After NJ outlaws all other guns, these turkeys will sell like hotcakes. We all want to shoot SOMETHING. We all follow the law. We already got ignition locks on most guns,not such a stretch. Buy stock in "smart gun smith & wesson". Oh sorry the stock already went from a dollar to $13 a share since the lock was installed. Joe
 
Are the researchers unethical or just stupid? If the latter, why can't someone just explain to them the harm this project is going to cause if they succeed?
 
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