A letter about the Texas Democrats written by a Texas Republican.

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A well written letter from the Texas legislature.

This was good enough that I had to share it with ya'll.

"Democrats misrepresent history
By David Dewhurst
August 6, 2003

There's been a great deal of noise created about ''Texas Senate tradition'' as the Legislature addresses congressional redistricting during a special session. Nobody wants to protect genuine Texas traditions more than I do.

One Senate tradition is showing up for work - just like every hard-working Texan does every day. Contrary to what Senate Democrats say, there is no right in the Texas Constitution for legislators to break a quorum. In fact, the constitution provides each legislative house with the ability to compel attendance of absent members to achieve a quorum.

Another Senate tradition is completing the work at hand. Eleven Senate Democrats left town on July 28 before we completed the special session. That left stranded $120 million in badly needed new highway funding, $800 million that needs to be reclassified to avoid harming school districts and $676 million that must be appropriated into general revenue. This money should be spent on public education, increasing Medicaid and CHIP medical provider reimbursement rates, and help for children, the frail and elderly.

When Senate Democrats fled the state, they tried to claim that ''Senate tradition'' always requires a two-thirds vote on any matter. That's partisan spin. Tradition and precedent actually dictate that the two-thirds vote should not govern in redistricting, particularly in special sessions.

In 1971, 1981 and 1992 special sessions on redistricting, Lt. Govs. Ben Barnes, Bill Hobby and Bob Bullock did not require a two-thirds vote on redistricting. In fact, the two-thirds vote was not used in at least 20 special legislative sessions in the last half-century alone.

The situation facing a 1992 redistricting special session was almost identical to that faced by the Legislature this summer. A three-judge federal court in late 1991 had drawn a state legislative map that most Senate Democrats found objectionable. The court map, one publication said, ''dramatically shifts the balance of power in the Senate, creating at least the opportunity for a Republican majority.''

At a special session called by Gov. Ann Richards starting Jan. 2, 1992, Lt. Gov. Bob Bullock, a Democrat, publicly announced that he did not have 21 votes, or a two-thirds margin to change the court map. So he purposefully abandoned the two-thirds ''tradition,'' establishing what we now know as the Bullock Precedent.

There were only nine Republicans in the 31-member Senate at the time, but three Democrats also preferred the court-drawn map. But none of the 12 senators refused to participate in the process. They didn't run away to New Mexico or Oklahoma. Instead, they stayed and fought for what they believed in. In the end, the majority approved its Senate map by an 18 to 12 vote - well short of the two-thirds usually required.

Interestingly enough, with Democrats in the majority, there were no editorials written in 1992 demanding that the two-thirds vote be maintained.

Congressional districts in Texas today are essentially those drawn by a partisan Legislature in 1991. At that time, a national publication called the Texas map ''the most outrageously gerrymandered'' redistricting effort in the nation, resulting in Democratic strength in our congressional delegation well beyond its representation among voters.

Our congressional lines are even more outdated today. When the Legislature failed to draw new lines to accommodate Texas' two new congressional seats in 2001, the job fell to a federal court. The judges made the fewest changes possible to the existing 1991 map, in essence protecting incumbents.

Democrats, now in a minority, understandably want to cling to that 1991 map for as long as possible. But the plan's integrity, always dubious, is now in tatters. It's even more unrepresentative today thanks to population changes, voting trends and distortions caused by incumbency, including taxpayer-paid staff, free mailing privileges, fund-raising advantages and media coverage.

The result is unfair representation. For example, a strong majority of Texans support President Bush and his policies, while the majority of the state's congressional delegation does not.

State legislators have a constitutional duty to draw legislative seats. Even the president pro tem of the New Mexico Senate - a Democrat and one of our senators' Albuquerque hosts - declared earlier this year that redistricting should be done by legislators, not by the courts.

The two-thirds vote is a useful management tool employed by lieutenant governors to encourage consensus, bipartisanship and civility in the Texas Senate during debate on policy legislation that affects Texans. I value that tradition and will do everything in my power to retain it.

But as Lt. Govs. Bullock, Barnes and Hobby and others have recognized, that tradition must be set aside on redistricting, particularly in special session. I will honor the precedents created by virtually all lieutenant governors - my predecessors - over recent decades. At the end of the day, in a democracy, the majority decides.


David Dewhurst is lieutenant governor of Texas."

Take care,

DRC
 
HBK: So true....:rolleyes:

There are plenty of "concerned citizens" here that are about ready to take a trip to New Mexico & "rescue" those Senators from the clutches of Bubba Klinton's ex-crony....

The problem is that Gov. Perry & Dewhurst let themselves get outmaneuvered this time & didn't have the state troopers surrounding the building to keep everyone inside until the redistricting was done. The last "flight of the Demo-chickens" to Oklahoma last month apparently didn't teach them anything. And Dewhurst was dumb enough to tell the Demo-rats beforehand that he was going to suspend the 2/3rd's rule...:what:

We have "special" nicknames for Perry & Dewhurst here, but there are ladies present...:evil:
 
I'm no big fan of Perry or Dewhurst, but...

It's the content of the letter that is good information regarding both past and present dealings with this same subject. Democrat controlled = No problems business as usual. Republican controlled = Dems run away, break the quorum, do everything to disrupt the session since the Dems can't win on ideas.

I'm not in agreement with the handling of these things but there is a theory that if you let these folks do this and make sure the people see it, it will expose what they really are and what they are really about hendering their ability to be re-elected. I hope the theory turns out to be correct but I truly believe that these guys should be arrested and convicted when they return and Perry should be slapped for letting them do it. But that's just my opinion.

DRC
 
David Dewhurst is lieutenant governor of Texas

He's got the toughest job in the state (governor basically is a figure-head), fixing all of the problems left behind by that nit-wit Perry (previous lt. gov)

Both parties are wrong in this instance.
The Republicans are wrong because it is not the time for redistricting.
The Democrats are wrong because they run away like sissies.

I HATE partisan politics, or as some say, politics as usual.

Stinger
 
Don't know if anyone would try this, but if I were challenging a "runaway" Demo incumbent for a Texas seat, I would make a big part part of my campaign "...Elect me. I won't runaway when things get tough..."
Or words to that effect.

I know, kind of a mudslinging thing. I'm sure a good campaing mgr. could word it better.
 
Stinger-I'd be more inclined to believe that the Republicans were wrong if the districts had be created by the legislature and not a court (a federal one, not a Texas one) back in 2001.

And if I were running against one of the runaway Democrats next year, I'd definitely pound him or her on it. Make lots of references to real Texans not running away from Santa Anna at the Alamo, too.

Or maybe the spoiled brat on the playground angle, who takes his ball and runs home when the game doesn't go how he wants.

Gee, it's too bad I vote in WA. :p
 
Stinger

The Republicans are wrong because it is not the time for redistricting.

I beg to differ. There should have been a legislative redistricting of the state after the 2000 census. There wasn't because of the partisanship. So a Federal Court - unelected judges - only slightly changed the district lines from those set in 1991. All that the Republicans want to do is to have a VOTE on some new lines which is, after all, a LEGISLATIVE function.

Also lets keep in mind the essential lack of fairness in the existing lines - out of 32 seats, only 13 are held by the Republicans, despite the fact that well over 50% of the voters in 2002 voted for Republicans in House races. How can you say that this is fair, and that there shouldn't be a vote on new lines by those that Texans elected for this very purpose (among others)?

The reality is that it is FAR PAST TIME for this redistricting, but the Dems are playing games to preserve their power. Dewhurst and others have called them on this, and I see nothing wrong with it at all. And if the Republicans try the same thing in the future, they will be just as wrong.
 
Educate the ignorant (Me)

There should have been a legislative redistricting of the state after the 2000 census. There wasn't because of the partisanship. So a Federal Court - unelected judges - only slightly changed the district lines from those set in 1991.

I am under the impression that the courts have done the redistricting for sometime. I admit that I am not 100% sure. Please point me in the right direction with redistricting laws so that I might educate myself.

If not, I will assume that the problem with redistricting lies with the Republicans. And yes, the Democrats are scoundrels, sissies, and whiney babies for running away from a fight.

And if I were running against one of the runaway Democrats next year, I'd definitely pound him or her on it. Make lots of references to real Texans not running away from Santa Anna at the Alamo, too.

I didn't even think of that! That would be a great way to get the Democrats attention. RECALL, anyone?


Stinger
 
Sam is right.

Stinger,

When the census are done the district lines have to be changed to accomodate representation in state government. To put it simply, as populations increase and out grow ceratian boundaries, while others shrink, the districts HAVE to be restructured or less densly populated areas do not receive equal representation under the law. Districts have to be populous enough for registered voter criteria so shifting of the district lines is not only essential to population changes it's required. The district changes were suppose to have been voted on in 2000 so it's 3 years past vote time. Democrats changed district lines like clockwork but put Republicans in charge and what was once required via legislation is "an attack on the voting public of Texas!" Why wasn't it an attack on the voting public of Texas when they were doing it? Well for one because it was a necessary legislative procedure and 2). Democrats were in charge.

Democrats have held control in the Texas legislature for 100 + years and everything they've done has been partisan. It's time that their gerrymandering was dismantled and kept in check. The long and short of it is that it's time for a change.

Take care

DRC
 
The district changes were suppose to have been voted on in 2000 so it's 3 years past vote time.

I'm not sure that redistricting is voted on. That is what I am asking. What is the process, not what you think the process is, or what it should be, but what it actually is. The districts were set post 2000 census.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, the Republicans are dancing around this issue. The people are not as naive as politicians would think. Redistricting was recently done, and now the Republicans are trying to do it again, one year later, to bolster their numbers.

If the redistricing was done improperly or illegally, I can and WILL stand corrected. My understanding is that the Republicans are trying to redistrict almost a decade ahead of time, and that is wrong. The Democrats are running like sissies. If they like Oklahoma and New Mexico so much, why don't they just stay there. :fire:

All I am asking for is some justification (ie proof) that redistricting was done correctly and I'll be all for it. I don't need hearsay, rumors, or speculation. What I need is documentation.

Like I said, my understanding is that BOTH parties are wrong.
Please enlighten me.

Stinger :)
 
"Like I said, my understanding is that BOTH parties are wrong.
Please enlighten me."

No not both, just the Dems.

But then again Texas has has some famous BG Dems if you can recall the old tails about LBJ and the lost ballot box. These latter day Dems are small fish compared to the likes of LB.

S-
 
Regardless of the vagaries of Texas law (not to mention the ingresses made by Federal courts) regarding redistricting, what we have here is yet another fine example of Demorats shirking, avoiding, biting, kicking, scratching, and hiding in order to do what they do best, i.e. avoiding the will of the people at all costs.

Q: Don't want to redistrict after a census as the law demands?

A: Obstruct the process long enough to get the courts to intercede.

Q: Don't like the certified results of a Presidential election?

A: Why, take it to people that love to legislate per judicial fiat of course!

Why not simply legislate from the bench? Why bother to have a legislature at all if they aren't going to do their JOB? Oh, that's right, if it weren't for gubmint handouts, Demorats wouldn't have jobs!

I think I'm going to punch the next Demorat that opens his yap, in said yap.

See how they like my legislating from my fist. :fire: :fire: :fire:
 
Howdy Stinger,

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. While I understand your concern in general I'm afraid your concern is with the wrong political party. The Republicans and remaining Democrats are doing what they are required to do by law. You assertion is that these guys wanted to do this on their own just to change districts before it was time to do so, but guess what? The last time the district vote came up the Supreme court decided. The redistricting rule is in 2001 (I said 2000 in my original post. My bad.) so we're actually two years behind on voting this issue (remember it hasn't been voted on at all yet because the Dems took off the Oklahoma during the first meeting) So the 2001 vote has not happened but is required by law:

"77TH LEGISLATURE, REGULAR SESSION (January 9 - May 28, 2001)

The Texas Legislature had the responsibility to redraw the senate, house, congressional, and State Board of Education districts during regular session of the 77th Legislature, which convened in January 2001. The census bureau provides the population data necessary for redistricting, and the Texas Constitution requires the legislature to redraw the state senate and house districts during the first regular legislative session following publication of the census data. The Texas census data was delivered on March 12, 2001."

So your assertion is incorrect and here's the link for you to peruse.

http://www.tlc.state.tx.us/research/redist/actions.htm

Remember you have every right to be angry about this whole thing (I am) but make sure you direct that anger at the guilty party and that would be the Democrats. I'm not completely sure but am pretty close to possitive that the Democrats leaving the state during the first and second session for the vote was illegal and if Perry or the Republicans wanted to be nasty about it they could have these folks arrested but they haven't done it because all they want is a vote. The district lines as they sit today are so far removed from anything with a method that it's not funny. The Democrats have maintained control in Texas for 106 years and everytime redistricting came up while they were in power they changed the lines according to what would best suit their ability to stay in power and in office and they did it that way for that reason only. Where do you think the term "gerrymandering" came from? AND even with the messed up districts set up in favor of Democrats they still lost the elctions which should tell you something.

Well, I gotta go and I'm sorry if you thought my earlier posts were my opinion or what I "felt" or simply "thought" I typically don't start a thread if I'm basing it on feelings and not on facts.

Take care,

DRC
 
Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. It's not that I didn't/don't believe YOU, but politicians are always spouting b.s. from their filthy mouths.

Thanks again,

Stinger :)
 
Here we are on the border, more Mexico than Texas. The redistricting hearings here were tumultuous gatherings that bordered on being riots. Charges of racism were most common, with claims that they were discriminating against "mexicans".

One of the facts that made the noisy demonstrations more interesting, and which has been established in fact is this.

The Democ Rats and their support groups hired "Temps" in Corpus Christi and bused them down to participate as "concerned citizens".

That's fact and has been confirmed, but played down, by those responsible. Yessir, folks; many of the poor downtrodden Latino voters were paid temps, hired for the purpose.
 
If I were a Texas Democrat I would have gotten a band of fellow Democrats together and gone and gotten the rotten b-----d I voted for and delivered him/her to the State patrol hogtied; and damn the result.

Texas Democrats who voted for these cowards should band together and file a lawsuit for breach of contract and breach of promise against all of those no-accounts.
 
Nemesis-

Do you have any links to stories on the Dems bussing in hired citizens? I'm sure at least one of the national radio talk hosts (Rush, Hannity, Medved, Savage, Elder) and Drudge would love to hear about it.

Hmmm...breach of contract...any chance of running recall elections in Texas?
 
I agree with you Stinger.

It is impossible to truly believe what politicians are telling us, but it's the process that I'm familiar with and I'm not all that intrested in what politicians have to say except when they make a point that I've already been making such as the letter that started this thread.

I hope the link and information is a help. It is truly intresting to read some of the things that may have never crossed ones own mind before.

Take care,

DRC
 
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