A light, short, bolt carbine... the quest...

Your suggestions for light carbine bolt action rifle

  • Ruger Hawkeye compact

    Votes: 14 13.6%

  • Win M-70 compact

    Votes: 15 14.6%

  • Old Browning Micro Hunter

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Rem Model Seven

    Votes: 10 9.7%

  • Tikka T3

    Votes: 22 21.4%

  • Sako Finnlight

    Votes: 4 3.9%

  • Kimber Montana

    Votes: 5 4.9%

  • Other

    Votes: 31 30.1%
  • Total voters
    103
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Malamute said:
You are condemning all lever actions because a couple of a certain model, which you knew nothing about their care, werent working? 94's can wear or chip the cartridge stop on the link. It may be abuse, it may be wear. 86 actions function completely differently. I've had more malfunctions with bolt actions than I have with lever actions. I still think bolt actions are OK.
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In my limited experience when I have a feed jam or a piece of spent brass that didn't make it out of the receiver, I have a much easier time clearing an open top bolt gun than a side ejection port lever gun like a Marlin.

I can't speak of top ejecting lever guns as the few I've fired I didn't need to clear a jam.
 
If I ever get the bug to build my idea of the perfect scout rifle, I would start with the ruger Hawkeye compact.
 
WELL.. I COULD NOT WAIT.....

So I picked up a matte finished Remington Model Seven in 308. It weighs less 6.75 pounds with a Montana Sling and a temporary Leupold 3x9 compact VX2 that I took off another one of my rifles.

The price was right. $600

BUT NOW... I have my first problem The bolt retention pawl gets stuck in the down position because the little spring in junk and the metal finish is crap. Thus the bolt can come straight out. *** ???

I will work on it more tomorrow. Now I remember why I sold my last Remington.
 
I've never handled the Kimber, but I own two Tikka's and they are outstanding. The T3 Lite models are lightweight, very accurate, have extremely smooth bolt operation and an excellent trigger. And they are reasonably priced. I own a Lite in .223 and a Sporter (excellent rifle but much heavier - so I would not recommend it). By comparison, I also own a Rem700 CDL (which is considered a quality model of theirs) and it is not up to the operating feel nor the accuracy of the Tikka.
If I wanted to spend more I would get the Sako. Tikka's and Sako's are made by the same company, have essentially the same barrel and internals, but the Sako is finished to a much higher degree.
GL,
B
 
uhh, yeah, i think you lost that pretty bad. i wouldn't recommend wasting a lot of time trying to fix it. and is $600 a good price for a 7? you can get 700s for that, i thought
 
BUT NOW... I have my first problem The bolt retention pawl gets stuck in the down position because the little spring in junk and the metal finish is crap. Thus the bolt can come straight out. *** ???
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This a new gun?
 
Here's one of mine, but I guess it would not fit your needs due to blue steel and walnut. It is a carbine .30-06 that weights less than 7 lbs, there's a box of ammo for scale...

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Jim: Yes new in the box. I have some Remington parts left over from one of their armorers classes many years ago. I will see if an M-700 spring will work.
I hate sending rifles back to the factory from here.

Taliv: Remember I am in Alaska, everything cost more. The only M700 in a similar weight would be a $1400 Titanium.

I should have spent another $175 and bought a Tikka T3 75 miles north up in Soldotna. Then whacked a couple inches off the barrel. Sportman's hoehaus had a fluted barrel version in 308 for around $775.
 
Why not an ar-10?
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I'm curious about Float Pilots response to that, though my experience carrying AR's, AK's M-1A, Garand, and an H-K 91 around in the field. They are bulky and decidedly unhandy to carry compared to a nice sporter bolt action or lever action.
 
My choice was the Ruger GSR. It is a very nice rifle. I am very happy with this rifle. With 10 round mag.s you are well armed. This is what I have wanted for years.Nice ,short & lite. With plenty of power.
 
Why not an ar-10?
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Even with a collapsible stick and a short 16 inch barrel, the Armalite AR-10 commercial model breaks my weight before adding any optics, magazine or sling.

BTW: While the REAL original AR-10 in select-fire was a dream to carry, it was a nightmare to fire on full auto. I had the chance to fire one in North Africa.
 
As much as I favor M600 Remingtons (and M7s by default, they're just modern M600s), you already had all you needed. The Husky would do it.
 
My choice was the Ruger GSR. It is a very nice rifle. I am very happy with this rifle. With 10 round mag.s you are well armed.
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Everything I know about bears and bear attacks is either what I've read, or heard second (or 3rd and 4th) hand.

The one thing most accounts seem to agree on, is that when a bear decides to attack, they move really, really fast.

Would a 10 round magazine really be much of an advantage over a 5, or even 3 round mag if you're carrying a bolt action?

I'm particularly interested in the opinions of people that have spent a lot of time in areas where grizzly or brown bear attacks pose a credible threat.
 
I'm particularly interested in the opinions of people that have spent a lot of time in areas where grizzly or brown bear attacks pose a cr
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A fast bear can charge at 45 mph. A slow bear can bust 30 mph easily. I have chased them with a patrol car on many an occasion.
That is between 40 to 66 feet per second.

They usually only charge if you are within 50 yards ( 150 feet). So with a fast bear you have 3 seconds. Just enough time to shoot your hunting buddy in the leg.

Generally speaking they leave me alone. I have had many more bad encounters with ticked off moose or crazy humans.
 
I just bought a nice Savage Precision Carbine rifle from Academy Sports. They have been discontinued because of the short barrel and non Accustock setup. They do have the Accutrigger,decent short Picatinney rail and although it is 16.5 in...the stock is threaded with screw on cap.This whole setup came in at $550. I have installed a Centerpoint 4x16 power by 40 mm. scope and Blackhawk 9"x13" bipod. It has lighted internals in red or green at 6 levels of brightness. So far I love the little bugger.They are not considered the PC by Savage because of the stock and short barrel. They were just a special offering by Academy over the holidays, just like their 5 shot Rossi 5 shot 44 mag that they also produced for a short time. I have one of those too.
 
I like light little bolt guns. I have a Kimber montana, rem model 7 stainless and a ruger ultralight all in 308. Some other light bolt guns but ill compare these three. The montana is the coolest. Its a 22 inch gun and is substaintialy lighter then the other two with there 20 inch barrels. The rem gets points because its the most accurate of the three. Sub moa with many loads. The rugers strong suit is its looks. Its blued and walnut instead of stainless and black. If I had to pick them in order of which I would keep in a pinch the Kimber would win but it should at twice the price. The rem would take second just because its about indestructible and more accurate then even the Kimber at twice the price. The ruger would probably be the first to go. But even it is a nice gun.
 
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