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Just a little problem, but worth a quick email, IMO.

Rhetorical quesiton: Why does a U.S. government website link to Brady Campaign propaganda?

The HHS database "Health Finder" ( www.healthfinder.gov ) directs people to various Brady Campaign propaganda pages. Search on "guns" "firearms" "violence" and the following links will variously pop up.

This propaganda is clearly designed to negatively change public perception about firearm ownership, the the federal government is giving Brady campaign free promotion.

1) Clarence and Guns: http://www.bradycenter.org/clarence/index_0.html

2) Firearm Facts (yeah right): http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/research/firefacts.asp

3) Is My Family Safe? Interactive Quiz. http://www.bradycenter.org/stop2/quiz/

4) Preventing Firearm Injuries: Calling Communiteis to Action
http://www.bradycenter.org/cap/index.asp


Email comments to [email protected]

Otherwise:
Elizabeth Majestic, M.S., M.P.H.
Acting Director
Office of Disease Prevention and Health Promotion
(you could try the same email format as above: [email protected] , but I don't know if that works.

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
Office of Disease Prevention and Health Promotion
Office of Public Health and Science, Office of the Secretary
200 Independence Avenue SW., Room 738G
Washington, DC 20201
Voice (202) 205-8611
Fax (202) 205-9478
http://odphp.osophs.dhhs.gov
 
I'm trying to refine this...

Elizabeth Majestic, M.S., M.P.H.
Acting Director
Office of Disease Prevention and Health Promotion,

I have a question. Why does a U.S. government website link to Brady Campaign propaganda? This is unacceptable! Providing links for the public to sites only with a political bias like this! I believe you should provide links to sites with other political view points as well a some with no political views or motives.

Can we think of any links to sites that are pro-gun but non-political before I send this????
Or does anyone have a better way to phrase this?
To cuchulainn
Thanks! GREAT job and good catch.:scrutiny:
 
Can we think of any links to sites that are pro-gun but non-political before I send this????


Why should they be non-political??????Brady sites are very political and allways have been.
Bob
 
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Here's a copy of the message I sent:
_________________________
Elizabeth Majestic, M.S., M.P.H.
Acting Director
Office of Disease Prevention and Health Promotion

While surfing through your website today, I discovered that much of your content regarding gun safety, guns, and firearms usage link to various sections of the website run by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. Unfortunately, the Brady Campaign is a highly motivated political advocacy group who is desperately out of touch with mainstream America. Their information is skewed at best and demonstrably false at worst. As such, I think it would be prudent to remove any and all links, articles, and information from your website that originates from this organization. Thank you for taking the time to read this message and act upon my suggestions.

Cordially,
Justin
_________________________

When/if I get a reply, I will post it here.
 
Can we think of any links to sites that are pro-gun but non-political before I send this????


Why should they be non-political??????Brady sites are very political and allways have been.
Bob
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Because if we demand that they remove the links to the Brady Org and replace them with links to the NRA they'll never go for it. They'll simply dismiss us as a bunch of dunder-headed hilljacks with an axe to grind. Regardless of the fact that the NRA is the nation's oldest gun-safety org, it is an organization that is just as politicized as the Brady org.

I would simply request that they remove the offending links in the name of impartiality.
 
Yeah - I'd like to have them remove all...but what I was trying to get was links to gun safety, ect. that were truthful ie: some state organizations and such. Reliable, truthful information on gun safety. I know they wouldn't put just NRA, I don't want just the brady campaign-o-lies either.
Maybe.... If faced an overwhelming list of links they will just do the gov. worker dance and drop all links. More along my line of thinking - but I'd hate to have some young person go to the HHS site and get bad/misleading or NO info.
Your thoughts?
(PS- that IS a pretty good letter)
 
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That's a good idea, though off the top of my head, I can't really come up with any orgs that would be considered impartial. Maybe they'd settle for having links to both the Brady org and the NRA, which would at least let people get both sides and make up their minds.
The people who made this website are playing dirty pool, and unfortunately its with information that could conceivably cost someone's life.
but I'd hate to have some young person go to the HHS site and get bad/misleading or NO info.
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Good point. Maybe when others write, they should just simply deluge them with pro-gun links and ask that those be included for a sense of balance.

Thanks for the compliment. :)
 
Why are you surprised?

Controlling the peoples attitudes and opinions through propaganda is a significant part of our current system of government. It's here, it's there,... it's everywhere.

Want to see some right now? Go turn on the FOX Network. It's around the clock propaganda.
 
my goodness the closet liberals sure don't like FNC, which tells me that FNC is doing something right. :neener:

Back to the topic at hand: billy jeff and company used their entire timespan in the whitehouse to salt as many left wing antigun people in to organizations such as HHS, the CDC, and so forth as they possibly could. The best we can hope for in the short term is to keep sending them email or fax love letters, while working to pressure our congresscritters to cut back their budgets as much as possible.
 
ahadams,.. there's more directions in the world than "left" and "right". To say that someone has become jaded by the media pundits which are in the pockets of the neo-conservative sector is not the same as saying that they're a "liberal".

You view political ideology as a line,.. I see it as a sphere.
 
Please consider dropping the emails to gov. officials, including your elected critters. They are way too easy to ignore. Fax them a letter, or send snail mail. That way, some staffer at least has to handle the paper. Email can be set for an autoreply: "Thank you for comments. Ms. Hitlery will give them the consideration she believes they deserve." Then, delete. I never email these creeps any more. Make them handle a piece of paper, at the very least.
 
Redhead said:
Please consider dropping the emails to gov. officials, including your elected critters. Fax them a letter, or send snail mail. That way, some staffer at least has to handle the paper. Email can be set for an autoreply: "Thank you for comments. Ms. Hitlery will give them the consideration she believes they deserve." Then, delete. Make them handle a piece of paper, at the very least.

Unfortunetly since the antrax scare a lot of Gongress critters are refusing to accept paper mail from any one other than contributers.

By not reading their mail and ignoring electronic mail they can safely do what they please (or have been paid off to do) and can plead that their constituents have not kept them informed.

Sigh!
 
Yo! WR - that's essentially true if all they get are small ammounts of email however I belong to several activist organizations, at least one of which (grassfire.net) managed to totally shut down Daschle's office at one point last fall. We overloaded their faxes, email server, and phone service. They didn't like it, in fact they were down right hostile to it, but they had no choice but to notice it - especially when a few weeks later we booted a number of the dummycrats out of office.

activism in groups still gets their attention. If it didn't they wouldn't have gone into 'circle the wagons' mode after the election and elected leadership in the house of representatives which only appeals to the most radical fringe of their base.
 
How about a nice chatty phone call to their toll free number? "Hi there, I was just sitting here balancing my checkbook and I realized that we're spending a whole lot more on taxes than we did in...did I ever tell you about my uncle Elmo who got shot in Lyndon Johnson's war?...I think that Iraq war is going pretty much a whole lot betterl...by the way, I was surfing on the internet and I ran across this site..." fifteen minutes talking on their nickle and then you mention that you'd really like to see some unnecessary costs cut down a bit and some redundant staffers let go.:D
 
Yeah, take up their time - in large volumes.
I'm still on the hunt for non-political gun safety sites - to add to the volume of e.mail they get I'll just e.mail 1 or 2 links a day with a similar message body.
I'm still gonna call too - we need to at least get them to link to NRA's Eddie Eagle stuff. It burns me that someone may be reading this stuff and pay the grand prize for it. "Yeah, my son turned in his gun like your site advised, and someone broke into his house and he was murdered! He had no way to defend himself and it's YOUR FAULT!" The :cuss:
 
I found in the past when I emailed a politician with an issue that was "hot", my message was often rejected because the mailbox was full, or the server busy, or whatever. I FAX them now, early in the morning or late in the evening. Make them handle a piece of paper. A FAX gets past the anthrax worry. I can FAX directly from my computer, don't need a fax machine.
 
Done. I told them I would be contacting my elected representatives to complain. :)
 
A couple of thoughts.

Almost everyone has a 7-cent a minute long distance rate.

Spend a buck and call these people.

Email is so very easy to ignore. Hit the delete key, and it never existed.

Tie them up on a phone call!!

Sidebar:

I once got a call from someone arranging media appearances for Sarah Brady. They wanted to know if I would like to have Mrs. Brady on my radio talk show.

Naturally, I said yes. Mrs. Brady was a no-show.

Why is this important? The call to set up the appearance came from the White House (Clinton).
 
Thank you again for your feedback. The organization on which you commented has been removed from the healthfinder database.
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That would be the body of the email I received from the healthfinder.gov peeps.

A quick search of their website turned up no links to the Brady orgs.

Looks like a victory for us. :)
 
The more I think about this, the more it irritates. Substitute "water safety" for "gun safety" and "drowning" for "shooting" and see how really irksome this is. You don't see blithering idiots running around demanding we drain all our mud puddles!
 
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