A New Kind of Anti?

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I hate it that I have to own one to feel safe in my own person. I hate it that I know

"I hate it that I have to own one to feel safe in my own person. I hate it that I know what the solution is, but am simply contributing to the problem."---Anti-Gun person

Well, HATE is an emotional luxury one has time to indulge, , when friends, family, and self are not abused and enslaved by tyranny of brigandage or government.

If such a person were genuine, imagine him sitting to sulk as in the following hypothetical.

"Gee, they've violated my property, my privacy, and abused or killed my friends and my family. I sure HATE my desire to use a firearm to defend my loved ones!"

For some of humanity, 1+1 = an unknown set of values

Go figure that out if you will.
 
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There was that "ex" gangbanger/inmate in Cali who was part of an anti gang, anti gun project who was found with illegally aquired firearms, and nobody can forget Carl Rowan, referenced above, who pulled a revolver on a kid swimming in his pool late at night. He got no punishment whatsoever, having a firearm in his hand in Washington DC.

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Thats right. I remember that.
Has anyone decided if this Carl Rowan is the same one on the ballot of the NRAs latest election??
Joe
 
i consider these types of antis as living in the land of fairytales and rainbows. you can hate it all you want, its not going away. like i hate spandex and pudgy dudes with painted chests at sport events. i can hate it all i want, but my hatred ain't gonna make it go away.
 
There was that "ex" gangbanger/inmate in Cali who was part of an anti gang, anti gun project who was found with illegally aquired firearms, and nobody can forget Carl Rowan, referenced above, who pulled a revolver on a kid swimming in his pool late at night. He got no punishment whatsoever, having a firearm in his hand in Washington DC.
Don't forget Diane Feinslime has the only San Fran CCW permit, and a snub .38 revolver, which she freely admitted she owns for personal protection. And then there is Sarah Brady, who illegally crossed state lines to buy a rifle for her son. No action taken by TPTB.
Anti-rights organizations/people tend to be the most hypocritical.
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That is some big time corruption and hypocrisy right there. Kind of like General Chiang Kai-Shek living in a palace funded by millions of Western gold dollars while the Chinese people starve to death. It would be really funny if one day, all those hypocritical antis fled to Taiwan just like Chiang did.
 
my problems with solitude's comments is that she mentions that mike and a few others are crazies - something to the effect of "when crazies like you have to turn your guns in I'll turn in mine"

the implication that anyone who has firearms or enjoys shooting sports or who believes in the right to be able to protect themselves is crazy is insulting - essentially we are the ones causing gun crimes - there's no sense in arguing with someone like this - their opinions are not based on any level of reason, so trying to reason with them is futile.
 
I think "solitude" is a man, after all. He just asked Kelli (married) if he could take her out for pancakes at IHOP, the next time he's in Chicago. I think Huffpo must frown on that sort of thing, because I can't get the current page back now. I'm getting a page from an hour ago. I kid you not. Ain't love grand?

Pancakes? Is that what they're calling it these days? ;)
 
I got the page back

solitude (See profile | I'm a fan of solitude)
Kelli -
You seem like a pretty reasonable kinda girl. Now, I don't get up to Chicago very often, but on occasion I find myself up in those parts. I'd like to take you out for pancakes at IHOP sometime. (Yeah, I know the whole husband thing...how liberal (meaning open-minded) is he? Got an adventurous side?)

Anyways, it was just a thought. Keep up the good fight - we have a long road ahead of us.
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Maybe he's one of those elitist-hypocrite-anti-gun-internet-stalker guys. :evil:
 
I ran smack dab into the kind of gun grabber yesterday at the MD hearings on the ammunition encoding bill.

The patent holder of the encoding technology, Russ Ford, appeared before the committee as an "expert witness" on encoded bullets.

This bunghole sat there with a straight face and told the whole room that he was a gun owner, CCW permit holder and this bill was not anti-gun nor anti-2nd amendment.
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Mr. Ford knows that unless his technology is mandated by the legislatures, it will never be brought to market. He wasn't there to testify out of altruism, but because he wants his business to make money before the patent on the technology expires.
 
solitude (See profile | I'm a fan of solitude)
Kelli -
You seem like a pretty reasonable kinda girl. Now, I don't get up to Chicago very often, but on occasion I find myself up in those parts. I'd like to take you out for pancakes at IHOP sometime. (Yeah, I know the whole husband thing...how liberal (meaning open-minded) is he? Got an adventurous side?)

Anyways, it was just a thought. Keep up the good fight - we have a long road ahead of us.
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So I see - we're evil because we lawfully own guns and want to keep that right, but hitting on some other guy's wife in cyberspace is totally fine
 
It's the same kind of thing as gang members training with the military to come back here and then train their ilk, or terrorists training on airlines

It's an arm's race, basically. They seem to feel a heightened sense of fear for one reason or another, and don't trust the political right of the country any more than we trust them. And don't forget, socialist ideals have, traditionally, gone hand-in-hand with both gun banning and forceful oppression.

And yes, there are quite a few of these people around. They have a shared ideological base with you.

Not new. Most anti-gun politicians and celebrities feel this way, except they skip the whole 'gladly turn mine in' part.
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That's because they don't intend to. This guy is probably the same, and just saying "i'll turn mine in" simply because he/she wants to "save face" as the non-violent type.

When it comes down to some sort of culture clash, you can be damn sure people like him/her will exercise those firearms. The mold of Che has not exactly been extinguished (indeed, there seems to be many more of them, globally, than ever before).
 
Solitude sounds like he is a few fries short of a Happy Meal. He goes from asking Kelli out to IHOP for pancakes, to talking about venting his frustrations by beating up homeless vets, to expressing his admiration towards bacon. Is he really the best the anti-gunners have to offer?

How about this 'golden nugget' directed to 45Superman:

Listen 45stewpidman-
Rather presumptuous of you to argue that I, do not, in fact like bacon, or pork chops. How dare you!
I make a claim, a statement of fact and in following your right-wing rhetoric, before actually thinking for yourself - you go Muslim! and decide bacon is from the devil!
What gives? Do you hate the children? Children like bacon...hmmmm...
You are so off-base here...
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or this response to a post by Dr Micheal S. Brown:

Dr...? Riiight...in what, might I ask?

No matter. If you are sincere in your responsibilities as a "Doctor" then you should not be so quick as to debunk others' sources unless you have conducted the same research and found differing result. Otherwise, your opinions lack validity beyond whatever drivel you manage to type on that keyboard-thingy (sarcasm intended).

If you expect two students of fact like Kelli and I to believe anything you say or reference, you're gonna have to provide more than a UserName.

Remember, anyone can claim to be a doctor: Dr. Dre, Dr. Seuss, Dr. J, Dr. Pepper...the list goes on and on.
"Lord" Solitude, MD, PhD, JD, AARP, KGB
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Pretty typical. I bet the guy doesn't have a 'real' job, parties with his friends every week, and is under 25.
 
It's called "douplethink", which is explained brilliantly in "1984" by George Orwell.

The short explanation...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink

According to the novel, doublethink is:

“The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them . . . . To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies — all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.”

Another quotation from the novel, when Winston starts thinking about doublethink while exercising:

“His mind slid away into the labyrinthine world of doublethink. To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully-constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them; to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy; to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved using doublethink.”
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"As soon as reasonable gun restrictions are put in place, I'll gladly turn my in."

Nah. Gotta have something to keep governments honest and venison in the freezer.
 
I have had this I have actually seen quite a bit of this in my own family with people who hunt. As a vegetarian who doesn't hunt, I have been asked quite a few times why I need to own firearms. Even my dad who was an avid hunter questioned my need for a handgun. I find a bit of hypocracy in their statements. Sort of like Al Gore telling us to use less and conserve while he flies in private jets and maintains mansions around the country.

I had an interesting conversation with an anti a while ago. I pointed out that Rosie O' Donnell has armed bodyguards. I said that I deserve the ability to protect myself just like she does.

He said, "She needs protection, you don't". I then asked why her life and safety is more important than mine. He didn't have an answer.
 
Funny, The Huffington Post is letting this anti-gun clown posts irrelevant comments about his love for bacon and pork chops but are moderating out many y of factual based comments.

For example, in the latest thread Paul Helmke is congratulating himself and his Brady Campaign on 14yrs of the Brady Bill. I posted no less than 5 comments pointing out that Paul continues to say that the Brady Bill needs to be strengthened because criminal keep skirting it and asking him why he is praising 14 years of a bill he admits is ineffective at stopping "gun violence." Each comment has been shot down.

Wow, now they aren't even trying to hide their intellectual dishonesty.


Edit: I guess after 6 attempts they had to let it post.
 
Stuff like this is exactly why I no longer bother to "engage" the antis. I'm not going to waste oxygen trying to change their minds. If they do happen to have some sort of revelation (divine or otherwise), then all the better, but not on my time. You cannot use logic and reason, no matter how good, on those who refuse to accept it.

I, in turn, refuse to accept that the world would be a better place without the objects of my hobby.

These kinds of people and I live in totally different worlds and they can stay the <expletive> out of mine.
 
We have to remind ourselves that the anti-gun movement is about control generally, not gun control only. The sheep are perfectly willing to accept the control. In fact, the sheep are lost without the control. Thus, the sheep not only accept the control but the sheep also encourage the control.

The issues of self-defense and crime prevention are a smoke screen intended to keep the pro-gun people off the mark. Those issues are actually irrelevant to the Brady Campaign and to all related legislation. Don’t go for the fake. Let’s stay on track.
 
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"Funny, The Huffington Post is letting this anti-gun clown posts irrelevant comments about his love for bacon and pork chops but are moderating out many y of factual based comments."

Zen, you ought to see what happens when there is a non-Brady anti-gun blog on Huffpo. That's when you get the Huffpo regulars. They make Solitude and Kelli look like they're on our side. Almost all of their posts are insulting, many laced with the "F" word, and other nicities. There is always some pseudo-psychologist bringing up sexual inadequacies. I think most of them are afraid to venture onto the Brady Blog, because they are outnumbered.

Pathetic, yet slimy.

They also hate us because we have our ducks in a row. They have no ducks.

The more these people make jackasses of themselves, the better it is for our side. ;)
 
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is anyone honestly surprised? Considering that 3/4 of the population likes guns and that half of them own and/or use them, it only makes sense to find a good deal of pro-gun anti-gunners in the midst of the anti-gun side of the population.
 
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