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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Don't Tread, Mar 25, 2004.

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  1. Don't Tread

    Don't Tread Member

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    How good is the Magnum Research "Baby Eagle"????

    Is it dependable?

    Is it accurate?

    Is it worth what you pay for it?
     
  2. liliysdad

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    Good guns, form what little I know of them. Good enough for the Israeli Military, at least.
     
  3. Watchman

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    Its good. Its as solid as a rock...

    Yes.

    Yes.

    I think so...
     
  4. arinvolvo

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    A fine weapon, but leather may be a pain to find.

    The are a tangfolio/EAA right?
     
  5. liliysdad

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    No, they are Magnum Resaerch/IMI/Jericho
     
  6. Don't Tread

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    I would most likely by the Holster from Magnum Research itself
     
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    am i wrong, but isnt there a witness that is the same as one of the baby eagle models??
     
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    I thought it was aCz that was the same as the baby eagle .. maybe not
     
  9. Sean Smith

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    The correct answer is that the Baby Eagle is a similar design to the CZ/EAA/Tanfolgio/TZ/Sphynx/etc., but made by IMI.
     
  10. Don't Tread

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    The CZ75 is the acestral original of any of these guns. The Tanfoglios offer a carbon copy of this gun, and several variations. The Baby Eagle/ Jericho, which are the same gun, are probably the farthest removed form the original, with the Spynx being close.
     
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    All the CZ/EAA/Tanfoglio/Shpynx/Baby Eagles are derived from the CZ75 and all are exceptionally comfortable to many people's hands. They have also been quite reliable when firing brand new copper ammo.

    The Baby Eagle is generally going to require a different fitted holster because of different contours.

    I'd recommend any of them though I'd personally lean towards a CZ if buying one brand new... For the right deal, I'd be glad to own any of them.
     
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    Ahem. The Baby Eagle/Jericho 941 are Tanfoglio made, IMI assembled in Israel. Straight from Fratelli Tanfoglio. Excellent guns, and Witness magazines will interchange in similar sizes. Check with Eric at http://www.imageseek.com/hbeleather/ if he has the mold...
     
  14. Don't Tread

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    Does anyone else have any comments of this gun???


    And thank you to all who have already responded
     
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    I've had bad luck with a Baby Eagle in 45. All steel decocker model. Just won't feed reliably right now. 1 or 2 rounds out of every mag will hang with bullet point up at an angle with the nose of the bullet on the top of the barrel at the back (breech?). Haven't done anything about it yet...'cuz not sure where to start. Replace mag...or find a gunsmith to polish the feed ramp...etc. When it does fire it though...it is extremely accurate to say the least. So, I should probably try to figure out how to get it running smoothly.
     
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    From the limited information we have at the forum, hundreds of people, they are a great gun. All makes will have teething problems but in general they are another typical CZ Clone. They make a model with a frame mounted safety thats my fav....but they all are good.

    HBE does do leather for them....Ive done a bunch of everything for them.
    The only think different is the square trigger guard and full dust cover.
    No Worries.........:D

    Shoot well.
     
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    The jerico 741 was on my hit list for a while.
    The BE and the Jericho have a lot in common, but I haven't researched the BE, so take my replies with a grain or two of salt.
    I can tell you a few things about it, mostly second hand, but from some reliable sources.
    Being a steel gun, with a full length dust cover, it handles itself quite well, and should make for an excellent SD weapon, gaming toy, or gun to introduce novices to the joys of centerfire handgunning.
    Having a polygonally rifled barrel, lead rounds are not recommended.
    It has problems with wolf ammo.
    Magazines are hit and miss, but the gun itself is fine.
    Since it is a loosely based clone, a lot of grips, and magazines are available for it in the aftermarket.
    A lot of these things can also be said about the baby eagle.
    I'm just not sure if all of them are.
    As for accuracy, I've heard some good things.
    As for dependability, that is a first-hand sorta thing, so I have no opinion about that.
    As for it's value, I almost did buy a jericho 741, but instead opted for the original. (CZ75)
    I may still buy one, who knows....
    I'd personally stick with the steel-framed ones, the polymer frame would offer no advantage in combination with the full-length dust cover.
    Also, I would assume that the polymer models would have their own grips and magazines, and would no longer interchange with other models.
     
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    Could someone please provide links to the Manufacturers Web sites of some of these variants, I already have the links for Magnum Reasearch and CZ, Thank you.
     
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    They're better than nothing, Thanks


    Any more Links????????
     
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    Sphinx, 9 out of 10 CZ enthusiasts agree, they make the best clones... (Pricey!)
    http://www.sphinx-systems.ch/e/home_e.htm

    Here's a used sphinx for $725+ (Already sold.)
    http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=16540125

    Unofficial sphinx page
    http://sphinx.weapons.be/

    Tanfoglio...
    http://www.tanfoglio.it/indice_uk.htm

    Underrated handgun of the 20th century....the CZ!!
    http://hunting.about.com/library/weekly/aastautopistolofCc.htm

    The available in canada norinco CZ75 clone.
    http://www.marstar.ca/Norinco/NP-40.htm

    Although it pains me to do this.....
    http://www.eaacorp.com/
     
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    "Although it pains me to do this....."


    What is wrong with EAA???

    Just curious
     
  25. tankertom

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    My experience was that the customer service was not good when you have a problem with an EAA imported product.

    I have had very good luck with the CZ, not so much with the copies.

    tt
     
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