A question of legality

[GunnySkox]

I'm currently a student at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, VA.

My driver's license is a North Carolina, my parents live in NC, and that's basically my "permanent" address.

My questions are as follows:

Is it legal for me to buy firearms at gun stores, gun shows, or as private transactions in VA?

Is it legal for me to receive a firearm as a gift/trade from someone who is a "permanent" resident in VA? From one in NC?

Is it legal for me to sell/trade/etc. a personal firearm to a VA resident? To a gunstore? To a dealer or other patron at a gun show? To the same in NC?

How many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop, legally speaking?

~Slam_Fire
"Otakon, I'm covered in pennies, what should I do?!" "Press the Action Button, Snake!" ~Metal Gear Retarded

 

[Willyboi]

Ok.. This might piss off the Virginia DMV, but take a V.A. Drivers test. As if you didnt have a Lic. If you really want to keep your Lic. Im not saying do it or not. Its just a way around it. I wouldn't do it but, I have friends that say its easier that way.

Im in the Navy. I'm from N.J., but I keep my residents in N.J. for state tax purposes (No Tax).. I take my N.J. Lic, Military ID, and a copy of my orders. Fill out the forms and in a matter of 5 minutes to an hour I have my gun. My buddies have V.A. Lic's and just walkin, buy the gun they want fill out the forms, and walk out.

As far as the transfering them from person to person. I have no clue! Hopefully someone on here has that first hand info. I'd like to know too.

 

[JohnBT]

There's a difference between buying handguns and long guns. John

From the State Police site:

Identification and Residency Requirements

A primary and secondary form of identification must be presented to the firearms dealer at the time of purchase of any firearm except an antique weapon, or replica of an antique weapon.


Primary Identification

The primary form of ID shall consist of a valid photo-ID form issued by a governmental agency of the Commonwealth or of the prospective purchaser or transferee’s home state that denotes the individual’s name, race, sex, address, and date of birth. Where the primary form is a photo-ID issued by the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV), the dealer shall not transfer a firearm to the prospective purchaser until 30-days after the date of issue of an original or duplicate driver's license unless a copy of his/her DMV driver's record is presented showing that the original date of issue was more than 30-days prior to the attempted purchase.

The primary form of ID for a non-Virginia resident, for the purchase of a rifle or shotgun, must consist of a valid photo-ID issued by a governmental agency of the prospective purchaser’s home state that denote the purchaser’s name, race, sex, date of birth and address. Federal law prohibits the sale or transfer of a handgun to a non-resident of the state in which the handgun is being purchased.

A State Department Driver’s License is an acceptable primary form of identification: a photo-identification issued by a [Federal] governmental agency which indicates the individual’s name, address, race, sex, and date of birth.

A social security card IS NOT an acceptable form of identification.

A birth certificate IS NOT an acceptable form of identification.

Effective January 1, 2004, DMV will not issue an original license, permit, or ID card to any applicant who has not presented evidence that he/she is a citizen of the United States, a legal permanent resident, or an authorized temporary resident alien of the United States. In the instance of temporary residence, the DMV document will only be valid during the period of authorized stay in the United States.


Secondary Identification

The secondary form of identification, for Virginia residents and residents of other states, must show an address identical to that shown on the primary form of identification. Some acceptable forms of secondary ID are:


· a current lease,

· evidence of currently paid personal property tax or real estate tax,

· a current utility or telephone bill,

· a current voter registration card,

· a current bank check,

· a current passport,

· a current automobile registration and

· current hunting or fishing license.

 

[GunnySkox]

Okay, so if the above is accurate (and I have no reason to believe it's not, but could you link/tell me whence that information came?) I can buy a rifle or shottie in VA with my NC Driver's License, provided I have another form of identification.

[Edited] Oop. Not paying attention.

Thanks to y'all that've replied!
~Slam_Fire

 

[MikeIsaj]

Ok.. This might piss off the Virginia DMV, but take a V.A. Drivers test. As if you didnt have a Lic.

Good idea except for the part where you have deliberately misrepresented yourself as not having a drivers license, thereby committing a fraudulant act by providing false information to a government agency for purposes of obtaining a second drivers license.

Lying is still lying, no matter how slick you try to be. Definately not the high road.

 

[Alex45ACP]

Lying is still lying, no matter how slick you try to be. Definately not the high road.

The laws are invalid in the first place. You can't shift the blame onto the victims here.

 

[JohnBT]

Don't tell us, have your lawyer tell it to the judge.

John

 

[Alex45ACP]

Oh, I wouldn't make it to a courtroom

 

[cuervo]

To answer your questions as asked:

You are a NC citizen, therefore you cannot sell or purchase anything directly to/from a VA citizen (i.e. non-dealer).

You cannot purchase a pistol from a dealer in VA.

You can purchase a rifle or shotgun in VA from a dealer (or have the dealer do a transfer if you wanted to purchase a rifle or shotgun from a VA citizen).

You can sell pistol, rifle, shotgun to a dealer (or have the dealer do a transfer so you could sell to a VA citizen).

Unless VA puts other special rules on gunshows, a gunshow contains either private citizens or dealers and are covered as described above.

When in NC, you can do whatever is legal in NC since that is your state of residence regardless of where you actually live. So private sales to other NC citizens are okay, pistols need permit or CCW, etc.

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