corton93
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So the other day I picked up a new-to-me. Sarsilmaz K2 45, (Sarsilmaz is the largest manufacturer of NATO spec firearms to the Turkish military) previously imported by EAA. Now I don't know all the exact details or history of this gun, nor do I really have the RAM left in my brain to learn it. But I thought that I would give y'all a mini review. And maybe turn someone onto, or possibly talk someone out of picking one of these beauties up.
I remember when these were first imported a few years back, no real press or news about them, I just vaguely remember seeing an advertisement for them in a magazine. And to be honest, there is a stigma to some, about guns made in Turkey, even with the success of guns such as the Canik and to a lesser extent Tisas.
Onto the Sar, this CZ esq handgun is a solid steel, heavy, hammer fired, DA/SA, high capacity 45. Review over, find one and buy it...
Just kidding, I'm not done yet. But it is a fine gun.
It is solid steel, 39.3 oz unloaded (per Sarsilmaz website), has a capacity of 14+1, and can be carried hammer down for DA/SA or cocked and locked with the safety. Being a big Sig fanboy I carry DA/SA no safety. Though there are not many reviews on it, but in the few there are everyone touts it as being just a monster of a gun, Huge in every aspect, and being out of the question for concealed carry. And to them I would say, are there better carry options? Yes. Is it as easy and comfortable to carry as a Glock 43? No. Is it overkill for a carry gun that for 99.9 percent of the time will never be anything other than a belt anchor? Probably so. But despite that, mine is riding comfortably on me, as I type this, around 4'oclock, in one of my own home made IWB holsters. And it's honestly no worse than any other full size steel frame pistol. It does have a long trigger reach in DA mode, but despite what everyone online says, it honestly doesn't feel any bigger in hand than my Glock 21.
The good and the bad..
There is at least one video on YouTube of a man shooting competition with his K2. In that video he proceeds to have numerous FTF's. Now, I know that some people have the opinion that if it doesn't run 1000% perfect straight out of the box, with any type of ammo, including their great uncle's famous WW1 era paper patch lead wad cutters, throw said empty casing to the next county, and do all that while... never mind, I digress. Anywho, in the first 200 rounds or so I did experience 8-9 failures to feed. The mags in this gun, in my opinion, sit too low roughly 1/16-1/8th once seated. That combined with the uber steep feed ramp and rough chamber are a recipe for this to happen. The outside of the barrel itself is beautifully polished, but apparently the gun I got was made on a Tuesday, when Tim the chamber polisher was off his game. The rifling was perfect, but the chamber itself was rough, lots of machining marks. The bullets being fed up at an already steep angle were then being shoved up against the top of the chamber while being pushed forward, the machining in the chamber was acting like Velcro and causing the nose of the bullet to hang up. This alone would be enough to discourage some of the "(insert trademark here) Perfectionist", but not me. 30 minutes with some 1000 grit sandpaper, felt-tipped dremmel, and a tube of Flitz, this thing runs like a sewing machine. I'm around 700 rounds post-polish and not one malfunction of any kind since.
Again, these have been discontinued for a while now, and there aren't a ton of them floating around. When they were first being imported you could reportedly get them for sub-$400. Towards the end they were edging closer to $500. Even at that price, this gun is truely a bargain. They are now going anywhere form $550 - $700 on GB now depending on which model you get. Just do yourself a favor, if you happen to run into one of these, and if the price is right. Buy it and thank me later.
Anything specific y'all want to know just ask. And y'all have a good day!
I remember when these were first imported a few years back, no real press or news about them, I just vaguely remember seeing an advertisement for them in a magazine. And to be honest, there is a stigma to some, about guns made in Turkey, even with the success of guns such as the Canik and to a lesser extent Tisas.
Onto the Sar, this CZ esq handgun is a solid steel, heavy, hammer fired, DA/SA, high capacity 45. Review over, find one and buy it...
Just kidding, I'm not done yet. But it is a fine gun.
It is solid steel, 39.3 oz unloaded (per Sarsilmaz website), has a capacity of 14+1, and can be carried hammer down for DA/SA or cocked and locked with the safety. Being a big Sig fanboy I carry DA/SA no safety. Though there are not many reviews on it, but in the few there are everyone touts it as being just a monster of a gun, Huge in every aspect, and being out of the question for concealed carry. And to them I would say, are there better carry options? Yes. Is it as easy and comfortable to carry as a Glock 43? No. Is it overkill for a carry gun that for 99.9 percent of the time will never be anything other than a belt anchor? Probably so. But despite that, mine is riding comfortably on me, as I type this, around 4'oclock, in one of my own home made IWB holsters. And it's honestly no worse than any other full size steel frame pistol. It does have a long trigger reach in DA mode, but despite what everyone online says, it honestly doesn't feel any bigger in hand than my Glock 21.
The good and the bad..
There is at least one video on YouTube of a man shooting competition with his K2. In that video he proceeds to have numerous FTF's. Now, I know that some people have the opinion that if it doesn't run 1000% perfect straight out of the box, with any type of ammo, including their great uncle's famous WW1 era paper patch lead wad cutters, throw said empty casing to the next county, and do all that while... never mind, I digress. Anywho, in the first 200 rounds or so I did experience 8-9 failures to feed. The mags in this gun, in my opinion, sit too low roughly 1/16-1/8th once seated. That combined with the uber steep feed ramp and rough chamber are a recipe for this to happen. The outside of the barrel itself is beautifully polished, but apparently the gun I got was made on a Tuesday, when Tim the chamber polisher was off his game. The rifling was perfect, but the chamber itself was rough, lots of machining marks. The bullets being fed up at an already steep angle were then being shoved up against the top of the chamber while being pushed forward, the machining in the chamber was acting like Velcro and causing the nose of the bullet to hang up. This alone would be enough to discourage some of the "(insert trademark here) Perfectionist", but not me. 30 minutes with some 1000 grit sandpaper, felt-tipped dremmel, and a tube of Flitz, this thing runs like a sewing machine. I'm around 700 rounds post-polish and not one malfunction of any kind since.
Again, these have been discontinued for a while now, and there aren't a ton of them floating around. When they were first being imported you could reportedly get them for sub-$400. Towards the end they were edging closer to $500. Even at that price, this gun is truely a bargain. They are now going anywhere form $550 - $700 on GB now depending on which model you get. Just do yourself a favor, if you happen to run into one of these, and if the price is right. Buy it and thank me later.
Anything specific y'all want to know just ask. And y'all have a good day!
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