Mixlesplick
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I recently decided to have an elite trigger installed on my Kahr K40 and a short trigger installed on my Sig P220. I ordered the triggers and brought them down to the shop where I have had gunsmithing done before. I found out they no longer do gunsmithing there.
I found a place that would install these triggers but he told me he had never worked on either of these guns before so I just gave him the Kahr to do first. When I got it back I noticed that the trigger return was slow and mushy. I took it to the range and found that the trigger return was too slow for double taps some of the time. This is my carry gun.
When I called the gunsmith he said to bring it back and he would polish the sides of the trigger and try some other stuff to fix the problem. This sort of thing sounded like I would end up with more problems with the Kahr so I decided to send it to Kahr Arms instead. Before I sent it I got out the schematic and the old parts to see if I could figure out what was wrong with it. It turned out the flat side of the plastic spacer wasn't lined up right. I used a screwdriver to rotate it around the trigger pin until it snapped into place. After that it worked great and I really like this trigger. The gunsmith had offered to "make it right" if I decided to send the gun to Kahr and other than the putting the spacer in wrong he did a very nice job of installing the trigger. He had to use a press to remove and replace the trigger pin and he did that without scarring the heck out of the gun.
I brought the Sig to a major chain sporting goods store with the initials G. and M. in Grand Rapids, MI. They had a new smith from the last time I was there but he said he had worked on Sigs before. When I got that gun back I dry fired it and the trigger felt fine. At the range I inserted a magazine, racked the slide and pulled the trigger back until it froze just before it fired.
I brought this gun back to the smith to have him look at it. While I was there he switched the trigger bar spring around. He had had it in backwards.
Once again the pistol dry fired fine but with an (empty) magazine inserted the trigger pull got really heavy just before the hammer dropped. Even though the trigger worked fine without a magazine inserted and wouldn't work with the mag inserted the smith insisted it was the "contour" of the trigger that was making it feel like that. He offered to put the old trigger back in for free but I knew I would just end up with the old trigger that wouldn't work right if he did that. Before I left the store both the smith and one of the gun salesman had suggested I should have gotten a 1911 or a Kimber. When I left the store my face was hot and probably beet red. I did manage to leave before I lost my cool completely though.
Once again I went home and got out my schematic and flashlight and figured out what was wrong. The smith had managed to bend the end of the trigger bar spring so it was protruding behind the trigger bar. The tip of the spring was catching on the magazine when the trigger was pulled and of course didn't catch on anything when no mag was inserted. I bent it back and now the gun works fine. I didn't want to talk to that gunsmith again so I sent a letter stating what he did wrong and that I didn't appreciated his suggestion that I get 1911.
I'm 0 for 2 for gunsmiths in West Michigan but would consider going back to the one that installed my Kahr trigger for simple work. He didn't try to snow me and probably would have given me a refund if I had to send the gun back to Kahr. I like both of these triggers but will most likely send any other pistols back to the factory if they need work. This sort of ordeal is just too stressful for me. Thanks for letting me rant. I have to log out now. I am at the library.
I found a place that would install these triggers but he told me he had never worked on either of these guns before so I just gave him the Kahr to do first. When I got it back I noticed that the trigger return was slow and mushy. I took it to the range and found that the trigger return was too slow for double taps some of the time. This is my carry gun.
When I called the gunsmith he said to bring it back and he would polish the sides of the trigger and try some other stuff to fix the problem. This sort of thing sounded like I would end up with more problems with the Kahr so I decided to send it to Kahr Arms instead. Before I sent it I got out the schematic and the old parts to see if I could figure out what was wrong with it. It turned out the flat side of the plastic spacer wasn't lined up right. I used a screwdriver to rotate it around the trigger pin until it snapped into place. After that it worked great and I really like this trigger. The gunsmith had offered to "make it right" if I decided to send the gun to Kahr and other than the putting the spacer in wrong he did a very nice job of installing the trigger. He had to use a press to remove and replace the trigger pin and he did that without scarring the heck out of the gun.
I brought the Sig to a major chain sporting goods store with the initials G. and M. in Grand Rapids, MI. They had a new smith from the last time I was there but he said he had worked on Sigs before. When I got that gun back I dry fired it and the trigger felt fine. At the range I inserted a magazine, racked the slide and pulled the trigger back until it froze just before it fired.
I brought this gun back to the smith to have him look at it. While I was there he switched the trigger bar spring around. He had had it in backwards.
Once again the pistol dry fired fine but with an (empty) magazine inserted the trigger pull got really heavy just before the hammer dropped. Even though the trigger worked fine without a magazine inserted and wouldn't work with the mag inserted the smith insisted it was the "contour" of the trigger that was making it feel like that. He offered to put the old trigger back in for free but I knew I would just end up with the old trigger that wouldn't work right if he did that. Before I left the store both the smith and one of the gun salesman had suggested I should have gotten a 1911 or a Kimber. When I left the store my face was hot and probably beet red. I did manage to leave before I lost my cool completely though. Once again I went home and got out my schematic and flashlight and figured out what was wrong. The smith had managed to bend the end of the trigger bar spring so it was protruding behind the trigger bar. The tip of the spring was catching on the magazine when the trigger was pulled and of course didn't catch on anything when no mag was inserted. I bent it back and now the gun works fine. I didn't want to talk to that gunsmith again so I sent a letter stating what he did wrong and that I didn't appreciated his suggestion that I get 1911.
I'm 0 for 2 for gunsmiths in West Michigan but would consider going back to the one that installed my Kahr trigger for simple work. He didn't try to snow me and probably would have given me a refund if I had to send the gun back to Kahr. I like both of these triggers but will most likely send any other pistols back to the factory if they need work. This sort of ordeal is just too stressful for me. Thanks for letting me rant. I have to log out now. I am at the library.
