A tool for every job - my core collection

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This is my core collection. I've been consolidating a lot lately. Got rid of a lot of things I don't shoot much and decided to focus the collection down to a few key tools. At one point I had between 30 and 40 guns. You can only take a couple to the range at a time, so I realized there wasn't much point in quantity.

Todo's:
- Take the SCAR out to the range (just got it)
- Get a mount for the SCAR so I can use the suppressor with it
- Get a Crimson trace grip for 1911. I have one for my wife's 1911 and it's great.

:)

I didn't post the shotgun, I thought about that one, but it's not really my go-to gun. I'm more comfortable with carbines/rifles...

Shawn
 
I was about to say "you don't have a shotgun?" but then, I finished reading your post.

Only utilitarian piece missing (arguably) is a decent 22LR for small game hunting. Less noisy and messy than shotgun. :)

Getting down to 5 core calibers (plus 12ga I assume) ain't a bad thing at all.

Some people may argue from an "common caliber" standpoint that your weapons should share calibers as much as possible. But what happens if that caliber becomes unavailable?

I say it's better to have a wide variety of calibers, so if you can only get a hold of one type of ammo, it's more likely you'll have a match, something to feed a weapon with. There's been times (even in recent history) where "normal" calibers are hard to find but obscure ones are easy - I had no problem finding 7.5 swiss or 8x57 during the ammo shortage, but 9mm, 45, 40, 308, 223, it was scarce as jackalopes.

Nice pic!
 
srv656s

Definitely an interesting core collection. Looks like you have quite a few bases covered there. Still I would add a .22LR rifle to the mix, mainly because they're so much fun and very economical to shoot.
 
bannockburn. I have a few .22 LR's, but they're not my "go to" guns.

I figure these are the tools I'd use in the following distances if I needed a gun:
0-10 yards: 1911
10-50 yards: Mac 10
25-300 yards: SCAR
100-600 yards: Bolt action .308
200 yards to a mile: .50 BMG
 
I figure these are the tools I'd use in the following distances if I needed a gun:
0-10 yards: 1911
10-50 yards: Mac 10
25-300 yards: SCAR
100-600 yards: Bolt action .308
200 yards to a mile: .50 BMG

For what purposes?

If you are talking about self-defense, I hope you have one heck of a good lawyer on retainer or a DA with one heck of a great sense of humor.
 
It's the "... if I needed a gun" part that's unnerving on some fundamental level.

I bought a Barrett M95 50 BMG because I like really big bangs and really big holes, and I like my projectiles to fly flat for long range target shooting. Not out of some fantastic underlying fear that I might one day be attacked by bad guys in an armored personnel carrier.

Having owned it 10 years, I've never even *considered* the use of the 50 in a self defense situation, even in the most off the wall sitting-around-the-table-talking about-zombie-apocalypse-SHTF-just-for-fun-scenario conversation with friends.

You shoot someone with a 50 BMG, be prepared for a lot of jail time. Even if you didn't technically violate a criminal statute, you're going to get sued out of your entire future in civil court. No jury will sympathize with you if you throw 750 grains at someone at Mach3+.

Not now, not ever.

Talk like that, just feeds the anti-gunners who want to take my toys away.
 
I like your philosophy AND your collection!

Not sure I want to fire a 50 bmg, but if you like it, more power to you.

I've followed your "less is more" approach, but my core collection is a bit different and not near so high end. Hope you a lot of enjoyment out of them.
 
1. That is a rowdy collection, well done sir. I am basing my collection on the same mantra you have, if you ain't shootin it, why own it.

2. In Missouri, if you are found not guilt in criminal court, you cannot be found guilt in civil court (563.074. 1. Notwithstanding the provisions of section 563.016, a person who uses force as described in sections 563.031, 563.041, 563.046, 563.051, 563.056, and 563.061 is justified in using such force and such fact shall be an absolute defense to criminal prosecution or civil liability.) http://www.learntocarry.com/docs/CastleDoctrine.html

3. Haters (people who take the Internet, and life in general, way too serious)

-Robb
 
Wasn't trying to rain on anyone's parade, just pointing out 50 BMG's are, well, a bit overkill for home defense. If you live in a castle doctrine state, sure, you may be OK. But, you probably won't hear words coming out of people's mouths anymore if you fire it indoors. :)

As far as the collection goes, I'm a firm believer in overkill.

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I bought a Barrett M95 50 BMG because I like really big bangs and really big holes, and I like my projectiles to fly flat for long range target shooting. Not out of some fantastic underlying fear that I might one day be attacked by bad guys in an armored personnel carrier.

Having owned it 10 years, I've never even *considered* the use of the 50 in a self defense situation, even in the most off the wall sitting-around-the-table-talking about-zombie-apocalypse-SHTF-just-for-fun-scenario conversation with friends.

You shoot someone with a 50 BMG, be prepared for a lot of jail time. Even if you didn't technically violate a criminal statute, you're going to get sued out of your entire future in civil court. No jury will sympathize with you if you throw 750 grains at someone at Mach3+.

Not now, not ever.

Talk like that, just feeds the anti-gunners who want to take my toys away.

Trent-

This post really bothered me. It bothered me because you're a gun owner and a gun owner that apparently owns a .50 BMG too.

I planned to ignore it, but it kept going through my head and I decided to respond. I don't plan to argue, and don't refute the points you made, but I think you've got a narrow view of things. I'd like to expand your mind and thoughts about guns.

First, something a little off topic. I was reading an article a number of years ago by some gun author. They were discussing how most people that carry concealed have an imagined scenario that they prepare for. At first, I thought it was silly, then realized that I was exactly like the people they were talking about. I always imagined myself sitting in a restaurant with the family, and then a guy with a gun would walk in through the front door. I always imagined how I would respond and what I would do in this situation. Scenarios like this have happened in the past and for some reason this is the scenario I always imagined. What the article said, and what I realize now, is that you never know the situation where you'll need a gun until it's upon you. At that point, you go with what you've got and you fall back on the training and preparation that you've made. In a concealed carry situation, I may get carjacked and need to draw while wearing a seatbelt. I may get mugged in an alley and need a light. I may get jumped by a bunch of kids with baseball bats. You can't prepare for every possibility, but it's important to realize that things will likely not go as you expect.

So… on to the .50 BMG. Do I believe that it's necessary for most self defense situations? No. Not many I can imagine. However, there are some situations where slinging an armor piercing incendiary projectile might come in handy. Sound crazy? Well, there were a lot of Libyans recently that would have probably been pleased as punch to own a .50 BMG. Throughout history, there have been times when society breaks down, and the SHTF scenario becomes a reality. In those cases, having the right tool for a specific job could mean the difference between life and death.

Sincerely-

Shawn
 
Yeah, that's a PS90. I have a bunch of them. That is the one that sleeps next to my bed.

Last thing that was delivered before I turned in my bound books in '09 was a dozen PS90's and two FNAR light barrels. (Yeah, a dozen PS90's.)

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I still have 10 of them. :(

Didn't really MEAN for it to work out that way. I'd ordered them from the wholesaler 10 months prior, when I was still doing gun shows heavy. We'd sell 20-30 Klashnikovs and other assault rifles on a decent weekend, especially up in St Charles IL, near Chicago, where they were(are) banned.

Anyway, I'm winding things down over the fall of 09, and here comes a semi truck one day loaded down with PS90's. Rather than refuse them and take a restock hit, I paid off the net terms and kept them.

Did the same thing on a big batch of 50 AR15 receivers right before the books were closed. Harder than hell to come by due to Obama taking office, even in late '09. One year backorder on them. I accepted the orders, figured I could build up some rifles over time, make a few bucks here and there. So far, I've sold 3 of the stripped lowers, gave three away to gun owning friends for Christmas, and haven't built any rifles.

srv656s

I was fishing for a reaction when I posted that, and I got it - hope I didn't offend you, I was trying to instigate a meaningful conversation.

I often get asked "what the hell you need that for?" when people find out I have a Barrett, but they just don't understand the reality behind the answer. Because I CAN.

If I could own a 20mm, I'd own one of those too. If I could own an RPG, I'd own a few, and buy ammo to spare.

Why? Yes, I enjoy big booms... but also, it goes deeper than that. You can never predict the future. If I never have a use for the stuff, it just might come in handy for my great-great-great grandchildren. The more big guns there are in the world, the more secure our rights are, long term. I figure western civilization has to fall down sooner or later, you'd be naive to think it impossible. It may happen quick, or it may take so long that the decline is nearly imperceptible.

Anyway, I didn't meant to aggravate you with my response. Just probing your mind a bit.

The logic I operate with is twofold;

Some firearms I own are defensive in nature. Take the PS90 for instance. It's my go-to gun if my door ever gets kicked in, in the middle of the night. I have 5 kids, a disabled sister, a lovely wife, and 5 pets in the house that I'd rather not see injured. It's a precise weapon, and the rounds won't penetrate nearly as many walls as, say, a 308 out of my SCAR17S or G3. With 50 rounds, I probably won't have to worry about reloading. It's compact so I can poke around corners easily.

On the other hand, are firearms which can be classified as offensive. I will probably die an old man without those ever serving the role they were designed to fill. But if the day comes, they are there. And I know how to use them well.

The key point is deterrence.

Assume for a minute, that we have this right to own firearms of such a wide and wonderful variety, but no one bothered to actually keep them on hand? What deterrence would there be? The government isn't afraid of a bunch of hillbillies with shotguns. They are (however distantly in their minds) afraid of irritating a large mass of long range target shooters who know their business well.

I believe in the Swiss model. Pack a rifle away in every closet of every home, and hope they never have to be taken out. They've managed to avoid war for how long now? Don't know the answer off hand, but it's been a hell of a lot longer than we have!

I applaud your collection of fine firearms, you do have all the bases covered very well. If I consolidated my collection down, it'd be my Barret M95, Savage 112 in 300 Win, SCAR17S, FN PS90, and (couldn't pick) FN Five Seven or Glock 21.

PS - Your scenario mental picture thing really inspired some thought, by the way. I enjoyed that. It is very true, we tend to fall in to these patterns of thought which could create hesitation when things inevitably unfold differently than we have daydreamed about.
 
Wow, can I have a PS90? :D To the original poster, I am split down the middle with what you are doing. On one hand I agree with getting down to a few calibers, rifles, handguns, etc. and training with those to the point where you know them well. I mean to the point where their shooting attributes to each one are like a muscle reflex, no matter which one you grab you shoot well with it. On the other hand, I know in reality if anything ever did go crazy, having enough arms to supply the local neighborhood would be a likely benefit. I am not going to say that a larger force is always a stronger force but it sure doesn't hurt. The only problem with the latter option is that if/when someone within your little community you just supplied arms to decided to turn against you and split your forces because then not only do you have to contend with what is going on in the world, you then have to contend with them with a force smaller than you started with. This new opposition would also be one your just supplied weapons to for use against you. I am not saying that this would happen but it could. I mean look what happened to us with Afghanistan. Anyways the reality of it is I do not think you can go wrong either way as you cannot prepare for everything and as you said you can only afford, shoot, and maintain, IMO, so many guns at a time...

Also, to the original poster, where exactly do you plan on getting some armor piercing incendiary projectiles at LOL.
 
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Also, to the original poster, where exactly do you plan on getting some armor piercing incendiary projectiles at LOL.

Gunbroker? :)

There's still a fair amount of AP, API, Incendiary, and tracer in circulation for 50BMG. Won't be around forever, considering the government decided it was in our best interest to start mutilating it a few years back, instead of selling it for, you know, cash. Maybe they figured if they got cash for it, they'd end up giving the cash away anyway, so why bother...
 
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