A wallet size pocket pistol?

[Tomac]

I carried an Inox Tomcat in a DeSantis "Trickster" holster like a 2nd wallet for years.
Tomac

 

[Zaydok Allen]

The lcp seems like your best bet to me. I know your looking for an auto, but have you considered an NAA mini revolver in 22 mag? That should drop in the pocket of dress pants easily, though it certainly isn't the fastest or most formidable weapon.

 

[Onward Allusion]

Ruger LCP, Kel Tec P32 & P3AT, NAA Guardian 32 (even the 380), MPA Protector 32 (not in production any more, I think), Seecamp . . . are all pocket sized DA pistols. I had/have all of the preceding except for the MPA & the Seecamp. All are what they are . . . light duty weapons, better than a knife or sharp stick but I'd rather carry my 357, 40, or even 9.

 

[AK103K]

If you don't feel you can carry or deploy a decent firearm or sidearm with your office wardrobe, then do not carry a firearm. It's not going to save you or work the way you hope. It might seem cool or entertaining in movies or TV shows but don't risk your safety on a small caliber pocket pistol just for concealment.

I have to agree.

Most of these "little" guns, are third line BUG's, yet many seem to think they are first line these days.

I cant ever remember seeing anyone practicing "realistically" with one at the range, so I really have to wonder, how many are basing things in reality, when it comes to them.

Have a look at Kel Tec's .380 and .32 offerings, Seecamp pistols, Ruger LCP's (if you can handle the recoil - I can't) and the Beretta Pico (if you can handle the ergos and DAO trigger) which is my favorite.

Id skip the Kel Tec's, they arent very reliable. At least mine werent.

As far as the LCP and recoil, I dont find mine to be any different than any of the other blowback .380's, and really not at all uncomfortable or hard to shoot with. Same goes for my Seecamp LWS32. Dont have one in .380 though, but I cant imagine its any worse than the LCP.

If you are recoil sensitive, and still want a .380, the SIG P238 or Glock 42 are much better choices. Both are "soft" shooters. Both also have "real" sights on them, not that they are really necessary for this type of gun. I can shoot my 42's as well as my full size Glocks, out to about the same distances. My P238 was a good shooter too, when it would work. Unlike the Glock, it wasnt very reliable, although I hear the new ones are better.

Personally, I like the Glock 26 over the .380s, as its basically the same size, albeit a bit heavier, but it is a 9mm, and has more to offer.

 

[wow6599]

If you can't get a Kel-Tec P32 to fit in your pocket, then you should give up. It actually makes a P-3AT or LCP look kinda bigger than they are.

Neat little pocket gun.

 

[Drail]

While the idea of a handgun that is the size of a cellphone might seem like a wonderful idea - it's just not a very practical idea. A handgun that is "comfortable" nestled in your pocket just isn't going to be a very effective defensive weapon. It is not impossible or impractical to carry medium or full sized handgun with a good belt and holster rig. I've been doing it for many years.

 

[Willie Sutton]

"If you can't get a Kel-Tec P32 to fit in your pocket, then you should give up. It actually makes a P-3AT or LCP look kinda bigger than they are."


This 10X...

One sits with my keys and change and wallet and I *never* am without it. Front pocket carry in a small square leather "holster" that is just a kydex muzzle cover sewn to a square of leather (can't remember who made it for me but they are common enough) and it is invisible in a front pocket. Blue jeans pockets are not pistol-friendly but any of the other casual pants pockets work great.

My P32 is often lubrication and lint-bunny neglected (sorry to say) but it's NEVER not gone "bang bang bang bang" when I shoot out last quarters carry ammo and replace it.

Have a Seecamp too, but strangely enough between its weight and thickness, it seems a LOT larger in the pocket than the stupidly cheap little Keltec.


Willie

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[Zeke/PA]

I still prefer my S&W 638 for a daily carry in the right front pocket of my Levi's. Not TOO much of bulge in an easily accessible spot.

 

[340PD]

My Kahr PM9 in a good pocket holster works perfectly for me wearing lightweight wool dress pants.
For smaller, look at Seecamp.
The Kahr

 

[oneounceload]

A friend of mine carries a 22mag derringer in a wallet holster that he can actually fire from

Something a lot like this:

 

[Willie Sutton]

^^

Noting that this is an AOW (Any Other Weapon) controlled by the NFA, so unless he's paid the $200.00 making tax, or a $5.00 transfer and registered it on a Form 1 or Form 4, he's a federal felon exactly the same as if he had an illegal machinegun or silencer.

Really.


http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms...irearms-act/identification-firearms-section-9


Willie

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[420Stainless]

I personally pocket carry a PM45 which is a pocket full to most but I do it almost everyday, I have on occasion pocket carried a Sig P220 just because I could. It's all about the right holsters, pants, and belts.

I do the same. I do have a few pockets that are too small for the PM45 but I use a small Desantis IWB for those when I need to.

 

[cluttonfred]

Interesting. All three of the categories referenced on that page note:

All “Any Other Weapons” have a mandatory tax of $200.00 for making. Transfer of an “Any Other Weapons” is an additional $5.00.

So if buying an historic (pre-1968) stocked pistol, SBR, sawed-off shotgun, wallet holster, etc. do you only have to do the $5 transfer since you didn't make it?

 

[Old Fuff]

If you go back to a time period running from the early 1880's to 1940 you will find that hip-pocket holsters enjoyed some popularity, but the rigs didn't conceal the gun, just positioned it in the pocket. Concealment required a covering garment, such as a coat. Also they weren't particularly comfortable if one sat down in a straight-back chair. Some had a belt loop, whereby a belt would provide additional security and support.

Clothing styles change, and for most part the "rumpled" look is out, which is unfortunate because it could greatly aid hiding a concealed handgun, regardless of how it was carried.

So today "pocket carry" generally means side-pocket, not hip-pocket, and the pocket is expected to both carry and conceal the weapon. In my experience they work well, but one has to look at a total package that includes the pocket (which can be altered or replaced as necessary), the style of the pants (casual rather the tight jeans), the particular handgun (that doesn't have to be small, but short is advantageous), and of course the design of the holster that beyond the obvious should keep the outline of the gun from printing.

 

[huntsman]

I pocket carry my LCP in everything but dress slacks, it's too heavy pulls the pocket down and bangs my leg when walking. Good thing I only wear dress slacks at funerals or weddings LCP goes in jacket pocket our I go with IWB holster.

 

[heyjoe]

you can pick up a seecamp 32 acp for around 400 bucks today. a Beretta 950 in 25 acp is quite small and reliable and holds 9+1 rounds of acp. i strongly disagree with the posters above who claim you are better off unarmed rather than carrying small gun in the front pocket. ive been doing it for decades now and certainly dont feel defenseless with a seecamp or glock 42 in my pocket.

 

[420Stainless]

My wife has an INOX Tomcat that I can shoot quite well. It obviously doesn't quite meet the size criteria though it should conceal in any front pants pocket in a suitably small holster. Just thought I'd throw it in since a couple of other posters said they carry one regularly.

 

[Willie Sutton]

"So if buying an historic (pre-1968) stocked pistol, SBR, sawed-off shotgun, wallet holster, etc. do you only have to do the $5 transfer since you didn't make it?"


More for the NFA forum, but in general "No".

AOW's are $5.00, all the rest... $200.


Willie

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[Willie Sutton]

"pocket carry my LCP in everything but dress slacks, it's too heavy"

Saritorial observation:

1: Blue blazers go with dress slacks everywhere, no matter what shirt you wear.

2: IWB holsters and blue blazers are a perfect match.

3: "Pocket Carry is for Khakis".


Willie

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[WestKentucky]

Look at the NAA automatics. I am not 100% that they will fit into your dimensions but they will certainly be close. Look specifically at the 25naa and 32acp versions of the guardian.

 

[weblance]

I have tried as many pocket pistols as I can find. I settled on a Kel-Tec P32. Its been 100% reliable, is very accurate, and is controllable for fast follow up shots. I simply cant control the small 380s for fast, accurate, follow up shots. I think the P32 is about perfect for a "Pocket Rocket"

 

[beag_nut]

Yikes, that thing is an ergonomic nightmare. How can you hit anything past about ten feet?

Until I saw that Bondhus thing (today for the first time), I had thought a "sleeve gun" was the most ridiculous firearm invented (and usually only seen in movies).

 

[ShootALot523]

Kahr 380. Best pocket pistol I ve ever shot.looks like I m carrying a cell phone.

 

[Johnny_B_Goode]

I have no doubt in the accuracy of theKel Tec P11. At 10 yards quite often I shoot a one inch group. I have shot a couple IDPA matches with the P11. I didn't win anything but I was right in the middle of the pack all the time. We have a two time IDPA SSP national champion we shoot with quite often. He was so enamored by the P11 he shot a couple matches with the P11. He didn't win anything but he admitted he never got used to the trigger until the end of the match. He did buy a G26 for a back up after shooting the P11. Right now he is trying to find an SCCY to try out for a back up. He is chief of police in a small town near here. He says if the SCCY proves to be more durable than the P11 he will buy one as a back up for all of his officers.

 

[TennJed]

^^

Noting that this is an AOW (Any Other Weapon) controlled by the NFA, so unless he's paid the $200.00 making tax, or a $5.00 transfer and registered it on a Form 1 or Form 4, he's a federal felon exactly the same as if he had an illegal machinegun or silencer.

Really.


http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms...irearms-act/identification-firearms-section-9


Willie

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Interesting. I didn't know you needed a stamp for that type of holster. I personally have zero desire to use a holster that doesn't cover the trigger, but I have seen those things for sale and never noticed a disclaimer about the stamp. I bet there are quite a few people with them that have no clue they are breaking the law