Accurate's Pistol Powders... any experience?

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I have recently gotten into reloading. However, components are typically in short supply, and pistol powders are almost non-existent locally. However, this has given me more time to look for and amass load data for the various calibers that I will [eventually] be reloading, specifically pistol ammunition, and compare which powders seem to have data on the widest range of calibers.

In my searches for load data, I routinely come across loadings that use Accurate No. 5 and No. 7. I have perused the forums and have found nothing particularly bad said about these powders, though no glowing reviews, either (except that they both meter well). Does anybody have extensive experience with either of these? If you have experience with both, where do the strengths and weaknesses lie in relation to caliber, bullet weight and velocity, etc.?

What I am looking for is a powder that can function in most moderate sized pistol ammunition (not magnum rounds, but nothing .380 size or smaller) without causing excessive pressure or leaving a thick blanket of soot on every surface of the gun. Here is a list of calibers that I can shoot and will eventually load for:

5.7x28mm (high priority to reload), 7.62x25mm Tok, 9mm, .357 Sig, .38 Super (not a high priority), 9x25mm Dillon (high priority), .40 S&W, .400 Corbon (high priority), 10mm Auto, .40 Super, .45 ACP, .460 Rowland, .50 GI.

The calibers that I may be getting guns/barrels chambered for in the next year or two and will eventually like to reload for are:

.30 Luger, 9x23mm Win, .45 GAP, .45 Super

As you can see, this is a pretty extensive list, and using multiple powders is inevitable. But for the time being, given the list of calibers, would Accurate No. 5 or No.7 reliably function in many/most/all of the above, without major worries of catastrophic failures or intensely dirty firearms? Is there another powder on which data is available for many/most of these calibers that you would recommend over both of them?
 
I just glossed over your caliber list but hp38/w231 seem to cover a lot of the handgun calibers well. Ive never used the AA#s.

You dont have to worry about dirty so much IMO. You do clean your guns, right?
 
For the last year or so, the AA powders seem to be pretty hard to find in my area. I have never used them, but AA 5 & AA7 are good, versatile powders that can be used in many of the calibers you list.
Look at a burn rate chart, & you will see that AA5 has a medium to burn rate, a bit faster, but similar to Power Pistol & HS6, while AA7 is somewhat slower burning, along with Longshot. W 321/HP 38, as Potatohead says, is a also a pretty versatile powder that is a bit faster burning than any that I have mentioned - I use a lot of it.
The burn rate chart can be pretty helpful when you identify a good powder, but cannot locate any - pretty common nowadays. A good rule of thumb is that slower burning powders tend to be useable with heavier bullets ( AA7 or Longshot, for example, are listed in many manuals for 147 grain projectiles in a 9mm, but are not commonly used for 115 grain bullets). Faster powders like W231 or Titegroup tend to be better for lighter bullets. That said, many powders are popular over a wide range of bullet weights & calibers - W 231 is one of those, but when you get into larger calibers & heavy bullets, the slower burning powders may give better accuracy & recoil characteristics.
 
I started using AA 5 when the powder shortage was in full swing. I've only used in 45acp so far, but find it to be an excellent choice when worked up properly. I'm not at my desk or I would give tou the most accurate load I worked up in my Kimber 5".
I've never used #7.
 
Have used AA7 in +P 9mm and +P .45 ACP, AA9 is a go to powder in magnum pistol cartridges (just under maximum loads) and is accurate as hell.
 
I started using AA#5 when I got into reloading. It is my go to powder for everything except true magnum loads. I also run Unique in hot 44Spl loads. Power Pistol has also worked well for me in 400 CorBon. I'd recommend gaining a bit if experience before going to Win 231 as faster burning powders generally have lower density increasing the chance to overlook a double charge.
 
I could get by with AA#2, #5, and #9 for pistol loading, all of which I have used or am using, although I am out of AA #9 right now.

I would suggest True Blue for 5.7X28.
 
I've used and continue to use #5, 7 and 9 for performance loads in 9mm, 40, 10mm, .45 acp and .44 Mag. Probably some .357 Magnum too and I've been happy with the results.

Back in the day I've used #2 for plinker's and may do so again someday soon just to use up some old, limited supplies.

Lately, 231 has become a favorite for plinker loads in all of the above calibers excepting .357 Magnum, (don't own one now) with some new .38 Special loads waiting to be worked up.
 
AA #7

I've loaded thousands of 9MM rounds with AA#7. Many up to NATO velocity level. AA#7 is my go to powder for 9MM. I used AA#7 for my reloads when I shot in the Bianchi Cup.

My test loading for .357 Sig with AA#7 has produced mediocre accuracy. I have had stellar accuracy in .357 Sig with Bluedot, although I'm not getting the velocities I'm wanting.

AA #5 will work well in .45ACP and .38 Special. Although I prefer Bullseye and Solo 1000 for those cartridges.

I'm sure AA#7 would work well in 7.62x25MM, .38 Super, 9x25MM Dillon, .40 S&W, 9x23mm.

For the 10MM, .40 Super I'd look into using AA#9.

For .400 Corbon, .45 ACP, .45 GAP and .45 Super I'd look into Bullseye.

.50 BMG will require a totally different powder WC 867 or WC 872
 
.50 BMG will require a totally different powder WC 867 or WC 872

Understood. I really wish I could own/load .50 BMG, but unfortunately, Kalifornistan has outlawed it, so I am not likely to own one of those anytime soon :( The .50 GI, on the other hand, is basically a .45 ACP rim on a .50 caliber body that is designed to fit in .45 ACP platform handguns (specifically the 1911, and now the Glock 21), that shoots a 275-300 gr. bullet at 850-1000 fps. From what has been posted here, I am guessing that the 275-300 gr. bullets that the .50 GI shoots would do better with the slower powders. I have found some loads for this caliber using a number of powders, one of which is Accurate No. 5, which looks to be a little on the rapid side of burning. Other powders I have data for include Blue Dot, Universal, HP-38, Unique, and Titegroup. All of these powders seem to have followings in pistol loading circles as a general use powder, as well as W231, Power Pistol and a few others. But it is a little tougher to find load data with these on the more obscure rounds. And if finding a single pound of a single kind of powder is hard, it gets exponentially harder to find several types of powders to tailor each cartridge to a perfect powder (though in the distant future, this is a goal of mine).

I just don't want to end up using something that is likely to make a 5.7 explode, but be unable to push a 275 gr. .50 cal bullet at reliable velocities.

I am glad to see that No. 5 and No. 7 aren't coming in with any problems. I read on one forum where a poster said that the No.7 was very dirty in the 9mm he loaded. I've also heard it said that No. 5 can create serious problems because of its quick burn rate, along with its low volume (Which makes it easier to double charge a case). I believe that there was another forum where a person said that if No. 5 can't KB your gun, nothing will.

Once again, thank you all for your input. It is great to have a community to go to for insight. Let us all give Al Gore a round of applause for inventing the internet for us ;)
 
I don't use AA powders much because they are not common to the stores where I live. I have used AA#5 and it's a good powder for .38 Special +P ammo and I have used it in the .45 Colt. There are more applications but I have not spent time working them up because the powders are not usually available.

Accurate handgun powders are ball powders which meter well and are usually very accurate.
 
I have used the Accurate powders for over 20 years with excellent results in 100 thousands of loads. #5 and #7 are my "go to" powders for many calibers, including 10 mm and 44 Special. I use #9 and #2 as well. They meter exceedingly well, and provide consistent velocity in my loadings.
 
Accurate #5 and #7 are a normal part of my inventory. I like them in a number of cartridges.

Some day I may try #2 and #9.

Not pistol, but I use alot of 1680 and 2230.
 
I have never tried a powder from Accurate that I wasn't happy with. AA7 is probably the top choice for 10 mm loads. Numbers 5 & 7 work with a wide variety of pistol calibers & AA9 is my powder of choice for top end 44 magnum loads. I would use more of them if they were available.
 
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